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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 02:34 PM
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A possible reason for Kucinich mentioning Ron Paul
"THE Single Most Important Issue Facing This Country- And None Of Them Will Touch It

Hyper-Militarism"

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Kucinich and Paul part company when it comes to domestic issues, but they both believe our foreign policy needs a serious overhaul. Paul challenges the MIC unlike many in our own party.

:shrug:


Ron Paul on CNN yesterday speaking of our military spending, I'll vote for Dennis because I also agree with his domestic policies, yet realize we cannot continue to spend money overseas and at the same time provide for our citizens at home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ce0y6PqIU


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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 02:53 PM
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1. real reason
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 03:14 PM
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2. No I do not think so...Chalmers Johnson
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/160594/chalmers_johnson_nemesis_on_the_imperial_premises

"History tells us that one of the most unstable political combinations is a country -- like the United States today -- that tries to be a domestic democracy and a foreign imperialist. Why this is so can be a very abstract subject. Perhaps the best way to offer my thoughts on this is to say a few words about my new book, Nemesis, and explain why I gave it the subtitle, "The Last Days of the American Republic." Nemesis is the third book to have grown out of my research over the past eight years. I never set out to write a trilogy on our increasingly endangered democracy, but as I kept stumbling on ever more evidence of the legacy of the imperialist pressures we put on many other countries as well as the nature and size of our military empire, one book led to another...


...The Choice Ahead

By the time I came to write Nemesis, I no longer doubted that maintaining our empire abroad required resources and commitments that would inevitably undercut, or simply skirt, what was left of our domestic democracy and that might, in the end, produce a military dictatorship or -- far more likely -- its civilian equivalent. The combination of huge standing armies, almost continuous wars, an ever growing economic dependence on the military-industrial complex and the making of weaponry, and ruinous military expenses as well as a vast, bloated "defense" budget, not to speak of the creation of a whole second Defense Department (known as the Department of Homeland Security) has been destroying our republican structure of governing in favor of an imperial presidency. By republican structure, of course, I mean the separation of powers and the elaborate checks and balances that the founders of our country wrote into the Constitution as the main bulwarks against dictatorship and tyranny, which they greatly feared.

We are on the brink of losing our democracy for the sake of keeping our empire. Once a nation starts down that path, the dynamics that apply to all empires come into play -- isolation, overstretch, the uniting of local and global forces opposed to imperialism, and in the end bankruptcy.

History is instructive on this dilemma. If we choose to keep our empire, as the Roman republic did, we will certainly lose our democracy and grimly await the eventual blowback that imperialism generates. There is an alternative, however..."



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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 03:22 PM
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3. This is the reason

had a close sighting over my home in Graham, Washington, when I lived there … Dennis found his encounter extremely moving. The smell of roses drew him out to my balcony where, when he looked up, he saw a gigantic triangular craft, silent, and observing him … It hovered, soundless, for 10 minutes or so, and sped away with a speed he couldn’t comprehend. He said he felt a connection in his heart and heard directions in his mind.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 03:32 PM
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4. Heard directions...such as read and think before voting for bills?
Thanks for the kick :)
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:00 PM
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5. Kick for additional comments n/t
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