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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:30 PM
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Poll question: What will you feel if Biden wins the Democratic nomination?
Out of curiosity.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:31 PM
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1. Happiness and certainty that the White House is ours
for eight long, constructive years
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:31 PM
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2. I would feel that a humane and intelligent adult was now at the helm in
an increasingly perilous world.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:32 PM
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3. Orgasmic!
Figuratively speaking!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 03:02 PM
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42. Agreed!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:34 PM
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4. Thanks, Kurt.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:37 PM
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8. I'm intrigued by the DU compromise candidates
I don't like Edwards much, but I've come to view him as potentially good for the party.

Biden would be great for the party.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:01 PM
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17. I take it you voted "despair", LOL
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:20 PM
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28. No, I think Biden is Katz's number two, so probably just disappointment
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:35 PM
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5. Giddy optimism and stunned relief, like having one's execution stayed.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:36 PM
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6. Pleasantly surprised.
Don't think it'll happen though.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:36 PM
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7. I'd fear the Bob Dole Syndrome. Respectable guy, long-serving Senator, everyone
kinda likes him...but not enough excitement to tip things his way, despite the experience factor.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:38 PM
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10. But..could you imagine a Biden/Ghouliani debate?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:41 PM
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12. I don't know who'd ultimately win that one, to be honest. Fireworks, for sure--
Both Rudy and Biden are smack-talking street fighters.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:42 PM
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13. There wouldn't be enough popcorn for that! LOL!
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:18 PM
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24. Difference is
Ghouli is a lying ass and Joe will catch and embarrass him into a stuttering idiot with it.:rofl:
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:27 PM
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35. I can imagine perception management
Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 02:34 PM by RufusTFirefly
Both the Gore/Bush debates and the Kerry/Bush debates should've been scored TKOs for the Democratic candidate.

In fact, I remember watching the first Kerry/Bush debate and naively concluding that Bush would find some way to avoid the next two as there would be no way in hell that he would subject himself to another humiliating public drubbing.

Obviously, I completely "misunderestimated" the way the MSM would spin things. Given that I wasn't born yesterday, I should've known better.

The same will be true this time. Regardless of who the candidates are, we'll watch, but the MSM will pick the winner and then set about the task of driving their decision into our skulls. Need an example? The utterly media-fabricated Dean Scream was replayed 633 times in just four days by cable and broadcast news.

The propaganda isn't even subtle, and yet we still manage to buy it. In other words, if the MSM wants Rudy to win the debate, he will win, regardless of his performance. And many of us will actually conclude that he won, thinking that we've drawn this conclusion of our own volition, unaware that our decision has been spoon-fed to us.

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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:35 PM
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49. Biden just comes across as more likable than Kerry did.
Biden is a studied enough candidate to be able to distinguish himself by both giving detailed analysis of nearly any issue raised, but also get in some classic zingers. Remember, Biden doesn't attack his fellow Dems, but that wouldn't hold true in a debate against a Republican, and he'd do it with class.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:55 PM
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14. Biden is much more personable & witty than Dole.
You know, "folks would like to have a beer w/him". I know I would! ;)
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:19 PM
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25. Biden is a great speaker, people would like him a lot.
Watch the clip in my sig, is that boring to you?
Plus Biden is in the best position to pick an "exciting" VP, who doesn't necessarily have to have experience. He could pick Obama, Richardson, a female governor like Sebelius of Kansas, or a red state governor like Schweitzer of Montana. That would provide a maximum of excitement imo.
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:30 PM
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47. Our country wasn't at war at the time, unless you want to consider...
the ending of the Serbian conflict, which wasn't being felt by Americans as a war that threatened either our security or our military's. That makes a big difference. Right now we're involved in not just one war, but two, and the possibility of other conflicts is easy to imagine occurring. In addition, Dole was running against an incumbent which is always difficult, particularly if the incumbent is popular like Clinton was. Finally, Biden is infinitely more engaging than Bob Dole. In fact, I'd argue that Joe Biden was the most interesting candidate during the Democratic debates. A lot of people thought so. Everyone else was too much alike, with the exception of Kucinich.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 03:20 AM
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58. I wish I'd read your comment before voting. That's a good point I hadn't thought of.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:37 PM
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9. Fairly confident, as long as he doesn't come off as being too angry or flippant at times. nt
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:41 PM
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11. Very confident. nt
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 01:58 PM
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15. Wouldn't be my choice
but beyond a mild disappointment that my preferred candidate didn't win, Biden would be a solid choice. I chose "mildly happy".
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:00 PM
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16. Hurray! No W.W. III! nt
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:04 PM
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18. Where's the twilight zone option??
If a "second tier" candidate pulled off an upset I'd be in amazed, dazed, shock. Not unhappy in the least--just shocked.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:21 PM
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29. Better get your oxygen tank filled then...
;-)
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:05 PM
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19. Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!
Biden is a strong & powerful personality who know Foreign Policy & would IMHO be able to lead us back to a decent standing on the world stage.

I hope to see him move up in the polls. He does not get enough attention because the Corp. hacks have decided it will be Hillary or Obama.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:07 PM
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20. Relief that we'd dodged a bullet but are by no means out of danger n/t
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:08 PM
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21. I'm enjoying these.
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:11 PM
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22. Despair, because I'd be in the Twilight Zone.
I'd expect to find a talking unicorn next, who would convince me that if I polish his horn I would produce magical unicorn mayonnaise.

Biden is a very good man who would be an asset in the government, but he could never be President.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:19 PM
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26. here ya go sweetie, polish away!
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:22 PM
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31. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA
hahahahahahahahahahahaha...............!!!!!!!!!!!
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:12 PM
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23. You left out "Like we are about to get our asses kicked in the general."
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:20 PM
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27. At my family
holiday get together he was the only everyone one on both sides found acceptable. I think he would win without any problem.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 06:26 PM
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60. Not in the age of you tube, the guy can't keep his mouth in check
before Macaca there was Biden.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:48 AM
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62. dude- it was youtube that convinced me that he was the only option after Gore!
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 12:49 AM by stlsaxman
Biden is seasoned and ready for Rudy.

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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:21 PM
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30. Not sure....nt
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:23 PM
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32. Biden is our best general election candidate imo
Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 02:23 PM by skipos
The Repubs can't hammer him on experience, they don't hate him like they hate Clinton, he doesn't have a scary muslim sounding middle name, he is a great speaker, and has a interesting story (youngest senator ever elected, 2nd lowest net worth in the senate, riding in public transport most days to be with his family, overcoming his family tragedy, spending months in Walter Reed, etc).

Biden would destroy any Repub.
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mrigirl Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:25 PM
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33. Extreme happiness that the candidate I thought best would help this nation actually pulled it off!
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:26 PM
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34. Other: relief and acceptance. n/t
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:27 PM
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36. A Biden nomination would take away the guessing.
He would win the presidency because he's stronger than all of the Republicans on every front: domestic issues, such as health care reform, a contemporary energy policy, the economy, and education; on foreign policy; national security; personal integrity and family values; and as a true national uniter. And for those same reasons he stands the best chance of being a great president who will win back the trust and prestige our country lost under Bush.

I find it very disconcerting that Democrats are so easily swayed by superficial offerings in their decision making process. We have to keep our heads about this one, because if we don't and the Republicans use that logical approach by nominating McCain, then our nation's future and that of the Democratic Party will be in jeopardy. The polls we are seeing now only apply to the primary process, and they still aren't reliable. But the general election is a whole different beast where todays polls are useless in predicting the dynamics of the general election.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:35 PM
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37. Hear Here!!!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 03:23 PM
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43. I'm worried that the pubs will attack Biden on his health issues, i.e. 2 aneurisms.
Of course, if McCain is their candidate (or Guiliani for that matter) they probably don't want to go there. But these rethugs are so bad I can just see them try to make it look like Biden is a risky choice for president. It seems to me that that's the ONLY thing they can try to get him on, since he is so damn good on everything else, particularly foreign policy...and the world keeps getting scarier all the time...
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:22 PM
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46. I think that's a fair consideration, but...
it's been since, I believe, 1988 and there have been no residual effects since. At this point the chances of him having a reoccurrence are about the same as you or I having one. He'd have an endless number of doctors willing to vouch for that. That's the kind of thing that could hurt the Republicans more than help. But you're absolutely right, I don't put anything past the Repubs.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:35 PM
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48. But then we could just come back at them with the Cheney thing, with his crash cart in tow
everywhere he went!

Iguess they'll try to resuscitate the plagiarism thing but I don't think that on balance that would be so terrible. He certainly doesn't have a little band of guys who hate him, like Kerry did because of his antiwar activities (and we should have seen that coming!).

It seems to me that both Edwards and Biden have pretty clean backgrounds, in terms of the repubs smear machine. With Obama it'll be the drug thing ad nauseam and Hillary, well, let's just say we've seen this show before!
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 05:46 PM
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50. I have to agree.
Even though it was a long time ago and Biden had cleared all the questions about plagiarism, that's really the only thing available to them. And forgetting to credit a quote at a political rally after doing so time and time again previously is something easy to understand and a rather small thing, particularly since it was a Democratic opponent's campaign that captured it on video and made an issue out of it. I think Biden is the best suited candidate for the general election. I do believe Edwards, too, would be a strong candidate, but he's vulnerable on foreign policy/national security issues. That would also depend, in large part, on who the Repubs nominee is. If McCain, it would be challenging for Edwards.
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:35 PM
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38. I'd feel
Edited on Sat Dec-29-07 02:38 PM by NI4NI
that the Fuglian Party would not see the White House for 8 years, (plus 8 more after if Barack was Biden's VP).
There's just too much wisdom and intelligence and hope between those two guys.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:36 PM
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39. Relief that Democrats made the right decision.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:40 PM
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40. Disappointed that my first choice didn't come out on top
But pleased that my second choice did. Like Obama, I think Biden has broad cross-over appeal, which would make our chances in the general very good indeed. :-)
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 03:01 PM
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41. he's my number 2 behind Hillary
I would have no problem with him as the nominee.

I hope he finishes in the first tier in Iowa so that the MSM will pay attention to him. We need some substance in this debate, and they (MSM) haven't really given it to us yet.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:19 PM
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44. I would feel very good indeed were he to take the nomination
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 04:20 PM
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45. I will feel myself
In fact, I'm feeling myself right now. Or is that touching myself?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 05:58 PM
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51. I'd feel it was time to cut back on the weed
'cause if you think he will win anything, then you have been smoking too much. If you believe he won anything, then you smoked way too much.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:50 AM
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55. Another pearl of wisdom from someone who's not even suppose to have a computer..
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 06:02 PM
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52. Finally...
Adults will be running things for a while.

-P
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 06:31 PM
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53. General happiness because he would win.
Not my first choice but would be a solid President.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 01:48 AM
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54. Happy and excited!!!
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 01:49 AM by ribrepin
It's about time we run a candidate with "skin in the game", so to speak. Joe Biden's son is active duty--Damn it, it's time that our president had a child in the military.

I just like Joe. He can deliver a zinger like nobody else and if we are going to be fighting in the mideast, the president's children should be in the military. I remember a time when the population wouldn't have stood for a president's children not serving. I am so sick of rich men telling poor men's sons to show their patriotism by joining the military while their precious offspring party and get lucrative jobs. End of rant! :rant:
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:10 AM
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56. But a fully justifiable rant.
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 02:53 AM
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57. My friend lost her son in Iraq last summer
I have a nephew in the marines(with one tour under his belt) and a brother-in-law in the reserves. So this is a real personal issue for me and I am sure other families as well.

I don't want any other family to go through what my friend's family has gone through. No parent should have to bury their child.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 03:23 AM
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59. Other
"Huh?!?"

:wtf:
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:36 AM
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61. You know what? I actually picked Joy and excitement!
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 12:56 AM by FlyingSquirrel
And I've been an Edwards supporter for the past couple of months... although I also liked and monetarily supported Kucinich. Once the Kucinich "money bomb" thing on the 15th didn't pan out I realized that there was little point continuing to spend my efforts on his campaign. At this point my support for Edwards is still strong, but Biden has gotten to the point of being pretty much tied for my vote. If I were caucusing tomorrow in my state (WA) I would probably start with Biden and then move to Edwards if necessary.

In general (with some exceptions) everything I've seen from both Biden and Edwards supporters has been really great. Also I would feel more of just contentment with an Edwards nomination than excitement. Let's face it though, no matter who gets the nomination, they'll be a target of the right wing smear machine, so there's not too much point basing our votes on who it is that can be best targeted by them - they'll find something, anything about anyone.

Edited to add "with some exceptions" above. People who go negative on another candidate apparently do not seem to realize just how badly they are serving their own candidate - it always takes their candidate down a notch in my estimation even though I know their candidate probably would not approve. I feel that the way a candidate's supporters go about supporting them is important, and I take it into consideration in my determination of which candidate I will support. It's not my sole criterion of course, but it comes into play if I'm undecided between two candidates (like now).
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:53 AM
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63. Biden has everyone beat in terms of judgment and experience
As President, Biden will get us out of Iraq expeditiously, and not keep a residual occupation force like Hillary will.

Biden will not get us into a war with Iran, unlike Hillary.

I would sleep peacefully at night if Biden was in the White House.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 12:58 AM
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64. I'd be very happy to have biden as our president...he earned it! n/t
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