March 20 - big anti-war protest. Edwards people will stay home I take

[robbedvoter]

United for Peace and Justice is organizing an international protest against war. I was told I was dividing the left for bringing up Edwards would have started the war.

MATTHEWS: OK. I just want to get one thing straight so that we know how you would have been different in president if you had been in office the last four years as president. Would you have gone to Afghanistan?
EDWARDS: I would.
MATTHEWS: Would you have gone to Iraq?
EDWARDS: I would have gone to Iraq.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3131295/

So....uh...you guys, "the left" are minding the 2 Americas mill worker thingy then...

[IndianaGreen]

1. On March 20, 2005, we will be marching against President Kerry

because he will keep the troops in Iraq in order to keep a pro-American government in power in Baghdad.

Iraq war will become a Democratic war!

The only Democratic candidate that has made a commitment to get all the troops out as soon as he is sworn President is Dennis Kucinich.

Sadly, Kucinich does not have a chance to get enough delegates to prevent a Kerry coronation, much less to win the nomination outright.

Thanks to the DLC and Terry McCauliffe we are left with John Forbes Kerry and John Edwards as the only possible nominees.

On the basis of who we can trust to keep his word, Edwards is far more trustworthy than the flip-flopping Kerry.

[scarletwoman]

7. WRONG!!!! DK CAN get enough delegates!

Any precinct that votes at least 15% for a particular candidate get DELEGATES for that candidate. We don't have to settle for a coronation, we can make Kerry FIGHT for it at a brokered convention!

This is a HUGE opportunity for progressives to virtually FORCE the Democratic Party to deal with our agenda. There's an excellent thread elsewhere on this page -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x385853http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x385853|How To Vote Strategically

This is VITALLY IMPORTANT! This is THE opportunity in these black and sorrowful times to stand up and take our power back! I wish that all the people of good heart in this country would understand that if we pull together, we can change the shape of the national convention -- not by marching in the streets, but by taking our rightful place inside at the table with those who seek to determine our destiny.

sw

[SangamonTaylor]

2. Do you advocate walking away from our responsibilities in Iraq?

[IndianaGreen]

3. A rapist has no responsibilities to his victim...

Rapists are prosecuted and incarcerated for their crimes. It is inconceivable to advocate that the rapist be allowed to spend some more time with his victim in order to help her "get over it!"

We raped Iraq! We have no business in Iraq! We should withdraw from Iraq at once!

Our only obligations are to pay reparations to the Iraqi people, and to prosecute the people responsible for this criminal war, from Bush to General Tommy Franks.

[DrFunkenstein]

13. As Metaphors Go...

This one is unnecessarily low.

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16. Accurate and effective, imho n/t

[DrFunkenstein]

17. I Like The "Inconceivable" Part

Reminds me of Princess Bride.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

4. This Edwards fan will be there

No War But The Class War. When we win the class war we'll be able to stop the other wars.

[Cuban_Liberal]

5. How many times today are you gonna post that exchange?

I happened to oppose the war, but I'm not a one-issue voter, like those Freeper pro-life Repubs...

[robbedvoter]

11. War is a "one issue" voter thingy now? Life and death? huh?

So, it was the "you have the power" with you, not "they were all pro-war". makes sense. Just promise me one thing: you'll transfer the Gore endoirsement to Edwards, OK?

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

15. Clark endorsed pro-war Kerry, so why complain about Edwards?

Edwards is taking the same "stand" as Kerry. What would a Wes Clark Democrat do?

[NNN0LHI]

20. The creepers are NOT one issue voters. Unless that issue is "winning"?

They voted in droves for pro-life Arnold. Just wanted to get that straight.

Don

[citizen snips]

6. How many times have you posted that?

n/t

[robbedvoter]

12. I keep hoping for a cogent response. I have other quotes too

if you got bored with that one:
http://chat.forclark.com/story/2004/2/19/62036/0322

[NoCorporatePols]

8. Maybe they'll be there with the pro war signs

[revcarol]

9. Kerryites can join them.

Carry signs that say:"Bush lied, but we're all for the Second Rape."

OCCUPATION IS WAR.

[bigtree]

10. I'll be there

I've been to 5 marches. I don't blame Kerry for the war. I will be protesting Bush. Notwithstanding the crap that is sprouted here about John Kerry, Bush has the presidency now.

All of this shit about Kerry in relation to this protest seems like a pathetic cry for attention. Look at me! I was against the IWR! I'm omnipotent and divine!

Catbird seat. Pathetic.

[DrFunkenstein]

14. You Are Doing Wonders For The Anti-Kerry Movement

It's like every post lends you more and more credibility.

[newyawker99]

19. Hi NoCorporatePols!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

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18. "I would have gone to Iraq"

Can't abide it. Can't accept it.

We did rape another nation.

"They were asking for it" is one hell of a lousy justification.

What IS the difference between JE and Lieberman or bush on the issue?

Kerry, granted on both sides as I see it, at least gives my conscience something to hang onto should I find myself voting for him in Nov. I can see myself doing that.

How, tho, could I ever pull a lever for someone who says "I would have gone to Iraq" - ???!!!

The blunt answer is, I can't.

[MaggieSwanson]

25. If it was wrong to go in

it is wrong to stay in.
I liked Rev. Sharpton's comment in one of the debates to the effect that if a burgler entered his house, should he call the police and say never mind, the burgler is already in the house, he might as well stay and finish the job?

[jmoss]

21. Hey "robbedvoter"...think of something new to say!

You've cut and pasted your thread over, and over now; just changing the "subject". We get the point! You question how well Edwards would do in a debate.

<<Besides the fact that you also used your c/paste to respond to me yesterday>>

Furthermore, that you question Edwards' abilities to triumph in a debate is quite short-sighted. He is doing as well as he is (2nd), BECAUSE of his skills and straightfowardness as a debater. That is precisely how he has picked up endoresements from Des Moines Register, Milwaukee Sentinel, Fresno, etc.--his performance in debates.

Point being, we get your point. Think of something new to say, or don't say anything at all!

[arewethereyet]

22. isn't it a little late for an anti war rally ?

unless I'm missing something its a police action at this point. Recognizing that police actions in the 3rd world are different than police actions in this country.

[Forkboy]

23. I'm sure the families of people over there

really care if we call it a police action (like Vietnam?) or a war.

[G_j]

26. all the anti-war protests

took place DURING the Vietnam war (also called a police action) Vietnam was a civil war, looks like Iraq is turning into one also.

[tinanator]

24. Edwards? Hell most Democrats in general can all take an Enron jet

to the counter protests staged by the Freepers. They'll be happy to have some bodies. Even if you are only pro-occupation, they have a place for you to stand and hurl invective at the hippies and commies and DK supporters. Or, you can continue doing it right here, I guess?