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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:51 AM
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Get ready for a jaw-dropping national display of racism (Not campaign related)
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 11:57 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter
At 2pm EST the George Mitchell steroids report will be released. (And will overwhelm all coverage of the Dem debate)

Roger Clemens will be named in the report. Roger Clemens is the closest player to Barry Bonds in terms of fame, records and dominance. Roger Clemens is clearly the greatest pitcher of the Bonds era, just as Bonds is the greatest hitter of the Clemens era.

There will not be a concerted national outcry that Clemens be arrested, that his records be stricken, that he not be allowed into the Hall of Fame. Such things will be mentioned in passing for a day or two, in a pretense of even-handedness, but there will be no national passion to take Clemens down. Why? Because Clemens is a burly white guy from Texas, not a surly black guy from San Francisco.

When the Bush administration wanted a steroids scape-goat they picked Bonds while all but apologizing for the steroid use of Bush buddy Raphael Palmeiro.

Bonds probably did lie to the Grand Jury... a Grand Jury primarily empaneled for the purpose of getting Bonds to lie to it. The White House wanted a steroids scalp, and they seem to have wanted Bonds.

Behold the sinister beauty of selective investigation... just because someone happens to be guilty doesn't mean he isn't a political prisoner.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:04 PM
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1. Still trying to understand why this issue is such a big deal, other than as a
distraction from the real crimes committed daily by the Bushistas.

As for your premise, it is an absolute certainty that your prediction will prove true.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:07 PM
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2. Wrong. Both are arrogant pricks. Both deserve to have their records deleted from Baseball history.
I disagree with your overall premise as well...there are going to be plenty of white guys on that list...How many of them lied to the Grand Jury though? Iirc that is what Bonds is being done for...
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:18 PM
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3. I think you will be wrong on this
People will rip Clemens hard - of course depending on what the report says he did.



A lot of Bonds problems/image have ZERO to do with race - the fact that his is an arrogant, selfish prick who battles the media at every chance is the prime factor.
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UnyieldingHierophant Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:20 PM
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4. ....and he lied to federal investigators at every turn
A lot of Bonds problems/image have ZERO to do with race - the fact that his is an arrogant, selfish prick who battles the media at every chance is the prime factor.




....and he lied to federal investigators at every turn
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:22 PM
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6. It's party Bond's own fault though...
if he were a nicer and more open person...I don't think he would be receiving so much hate and anger. But I agree, anyone who thinks Roger Clemens will recieve the same amount of vitriol is kidding themselves HARD!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:21 PM
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5. Bonds committed perjury.
Also, he broke Hank Aaron's record.
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:23 PM
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7. Are you just itching to find some racism or something?
If so, there's plenty to go around without predicting racism that hasn't happened yet.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:06 PM
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8. Bleh. Racism exists. Bonds is shit because he cheated, lied, and broke the law.
If Clemens did the same, then he is shit also. Ditto right down the line of all violators.

I'm a huge Greg Maddox fan. If juiced, then I will ask the same fate for him.

Same crime. Same fate. Period.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:57 PM
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9. Aren't there a few dozen names in the report?
Aren't there a few dozen names in the report? If so, are they all minorities? If not, it does not appear to be race-related, only steroid abuse-related.
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