Poll: Clinton tops Obama in S.C. - N.H. and I A.

[Tellurian]

WASHINGTON - Health care and Iraq dominate Democrats' concerns in the three pivotal early voting states of the 2008 presidential race. Advantage: Hillary Clinton, a poll shows.

Clinton has clear leads in New Hampshire and South Carolina, building on her ownership of the health-care issue and her broad but more fragile trust among Democrats on Iraq, the survey showed Monday. Yet she could stumble in Iowa, whose Jan. 3 caucuses will be the first voting and where she is in a scramble with Barack Obama, trailed closely by John Edwards.

Democrats in each state overwhelmingly call Clinton the Democrat with the best chance of winning the White House. Yet that doesn't carry the weight it did in 2003, when it helped Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts win the nomination. Not even one in four says he would prefer an electable candidate to one with whom he agrees on the issues — more than 10 percentage points fewer than in 2003 in Iowa and New Hampshire, and about the same as said so then in South Carolina.

The Iraq issue

In all three early states, Democrats trust Clinton more than her rivals on Iraq, though by smaller numbers than she gets nationally from her party. Even so, she has small double-digit leads over Obama and Edwards in Iowa and New Hampshire when Democrats are asked which candidate would make the wisest decisions about the war, and is tied with Obama in South Carolina.

An extensive poll in the three states by The Associated Press and the nonpartisan Pew Research Center finds Democrats enthusiastic about their overall presidential field. Most rate it strongly, and they spiritedly back the contenders they prefer.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22080707/

[MadBadger]

1. Do you realize this poll was taken from nov 7-25?

Are you serious bringing this up again now? The frickin article is dated Dec. 3rd.

[Tellurian]

5. The information corresponds to the newest Pew Poll..

[MadBadger]

6. And what date is that? The article is from Dec. 3rd. Its Dec 13th today.

[Tellurian]

10. Yes, and the poll with the corresponding info with it..

It's a very good article..stating a breakdown of all three candidates strengths and weaknesses.

[MadBadger]

11. Still some of this info is more than a month old and I see no reason to bring it up again.

The only thing I can think of is a Clinton Supporter looking though the vault for some polls that show her still with a solid lead. Not even the Hillary campaign would stress poll numbers that are a month old.

[Tellurian]

12. Here are all the uptodate polls... Hillary leads in every one

You can view the nationals and the primary polls:

December 12, 2007 ABC News/Washington Post poll: Clinton 53%, Obama 23%, Edwards 10%

December 12, 2007 SurveyUSA South Carolina poll: Clinton 44%, Obama 40%, Edwards 11%

December 12, 2007 CNN/WMUR New Hampshire poll: Clinton 31%, Obama 30%, Edwards 16%

December 11, 2007 CBS News/NYTimes: Clinton 44%, Obama 27%, Edwards 11%

December 11, 2007 CNN: Clinton 40%, Obama 30%, Edwards 14%

December 10, 2007 InsiderAdvantage (R) South Carolina poll: Clinton 22%, Obama 28%, Edwards 14%, Biden 10%

December 9, 2007 Mason-Dixon Nevada poll: Clinton 34%, Obama 26%, Edwards 9%, Richardson 7%

December 9, 2007 Mason-Dixon Iowa poll: Clinton 27%, Obama 25%, Edwards 21%, Richardson 9%

December 9, 2007 Mason-Dixon New Hampshire poll: Clinton 30%, Obama 27%, Edwards 10%, Richardson 7%

December 9, 2007 Mason-Dixon South Carolina poll: Clinton 28%, Obama 25%, Edwards 18%

[MadBadger]

16. Im confused how you can say with a straight face, Hillary leads in every one

This is the RCP average. Obama is up 2.3 points in Iowa, down 3.8 in NH, and down .7 in SC

Recent Iowa Polls

Rasmussen sees clinton with a 29-26 lead over Obama
Strategic Vision sees Obama with a 33-25 point lead over Clinton
Newsweek has Obama with a 35-29 point lead
Mason Dixon has a 27-25 lead for Clinton

Recent NH polls
Rasmussen sees a 31-28 point lead for Obama
Suffolk/WHDH sees a 33-26 point lead for Clinton
CNN has a 31-30 lead for Clinton
Mason Dixon has a 30-27 point lead for Clinton

Recent SC polls
Insider advantage has a 28-22 point lead for Obama
Survey USA has a 44-40 lead for Clinton
Mason Dixon has a 28-25 point lead for Clinton
Rasmussen has a 36-34 point lead for Clinton

[Tellurian]

17. Out of a dozen polls..you show a negligible lead in 4 polls

which in the world of statistics is considered a "dead heat"..

So whats your quibble? Not much has changed..

[MadBadger]

18. You were the one who said she leads in every one

even after you show she doesnt.

[Tellurian]

21. There is one poll showing her not leading..

So, wait a day. All your polls are in statistical dead heats. For all the complaining, you look foolish.

[oasis]

14. Since this poll has you so upset, quit your bellyaching and retire for the night.

:eyes:

[EV_Ares]

24. Get an up to date poll & your poll results might be different. All anyone

has to do is turn on the news & see this is old results. You are behind.

[denem]

2. That's about right - for ten days ago.

[Tellurian]

3. more..... from OP

"Even among blacks who comprise about half of Democratic primary voters in South Carolina, Obama does no better than break even with Clinton. She offsets that by leading him by three-to-one among the state's whites. There are few black voters in Iowa or New Hampshire.

"We need somebody right now who can address" Iraq and health care, said J.W. Sanders Sr., 78, pastor of Bethel Baptist Church in Gaffney, S.C. "This isn't something I have against Obama. But I feel we must look now beyond gender as well as race."

...

"On health care, no rival approaches the support Clinton wins from party voters. The 41 percent in Iowa who say she would best improve the country's medical system is double the support for Obama and Edwards, and she boasts even wider leads in New Hampshire and Iowa."

"Clinton and Edwards want universal health coverage, while Obama would expand coverage but not require people to buy insurance. In each state surveyed, eight in 10 Democrats favored government-guaranteed health insurance, even if it means higher taxes."

[MadBadger]

4. Are you intentionally misleading us, or did you just make a mistake?

[Tellurian]

7. Pew Polls only come out once a month..

[MadBadger]

9. And this information was reported here ten days ago

Why are you rehashing old information?

[Tellurian]

13. The information posted is an in depth look at the Top Tier Candidates..

I haven't seen this at all..If you feel it's the rehash, fine. I haven't seen this info before and perhaps other people haven't as well.

[MadBadger]

8. 10 polls in Iowa have come out since that poll, which I checked On RCP, and it measured Nov 7-25.

[Tellurian]

15. good for you..I'm not usually here in the middle of the night..

[Double T]

19. Might be NICE if YOU used current data!

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/

HRC, like the stock market, is in TROUBLE.

[Tellurian]

20. The data provided is concurrent with Pew Polling..

and like the stock market the numbers are volatile..

any stumble at this point will decide the winner..

[Perry Logan]

22. Silence. Sound of Obamites shifting nervously.

[Tellurian]

23. hmm.. like 'bed mites'...