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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 09:41 AM Original message |
3rd Party threats - How much leverage do they have on the Democratic Party |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. It all depends on how "electable" te Democrat really is |
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Madison Grad (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I haven't voted since 1984 |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
65. Hi Madison Grad!! |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 07:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. That Is An Idiotic Statement. Empty. Hollow. Totally Without Merit. |
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Brian_Expat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 07:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. The most "electable" position is anti-gay. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I Am Not A One-Issue Voter |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. The LGBT Organization, Human Rights Campaign, Gives Kerry 100% For 4 Years |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
54. In addition, we speak of electable *candidates*, not |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. No, that's relative electability. Otherwise Nader would be electable... |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. and if the third party has more to offer |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. Enough to make Terry McAuliffe |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
3. The Democratic Party has three choices |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I think you missed my point. |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Oh I agree that in the fight for the same top 25 income crowd you're right |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. In your second paragraph, did you mean to say |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. minority. fixed. (nt) |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. kickety |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 12:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. LOL |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. When was the "left fringe" the center of the democratic party? |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. third parties can also help shape the debate... |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Kerry was right about that. People do need to move on about the |
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ldoolin (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. You're wrong |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I think you'd better start over with the original post. |
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ldoolin (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
52. Fascinating |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Um... no. You're wrong. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. "Emotional extortion and blackmail tactics" |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
13. run this by the night crowd |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
15. Be afraid! Be VERY afraid!! We fringe leftists are coming to git yo'mama! |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 12:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. BOO! |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 01:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. But we're not afraid. And that's what pisses you off. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:06 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. They Clearly Mistake Being 'FED UP WITH THE BULLSHIT' As Being "Afraid". |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. oh, I wouldn't say that |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:35 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Don't confuse people with facts |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. I Wouldn't Expect That You Would Agree With Me. No Surprises There. |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. half a loaf |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:02 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. This Is Not About ME, Or Who Disagrees With ME. |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:08 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. begging the question |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:21 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Because The Utopia They Desire Cannot Be Obtained Overnight |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:34 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. You stand by a misimpression. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Yes... that is correct. |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. summary |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Iverson, That's Bullshit! |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. There goes that highbrow discourse. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Insistence That A Third Party Candidate Can Win... Is Well... |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 12:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. missed the point |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Oh Sweet Jesus On A Stick |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
70. Iverson |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. You're right, arewalden |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 08:39 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. They Are Responsible For Their Own Attitudes, Not I. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Deleted message |
arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. It's Too Bad You Feel That Way, MadHound. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 09:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
40. Sweet! |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
19. A lot or none -- depending on how you look at it |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
20. I agree with your assertion |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
57. That is delusional, purity and "the Socialist dream" will never win. |
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OhioStateProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 10:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. I guess 2000 wasn't enough(nt) |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
24. So many words |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
28. This is a great post. I have said all of the same things.. |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
59. YOU have said all the same things over time, yet it's a "great post?" |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-23-04 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
34. You know, you might have a decent argument |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 10:38 AM Response to Reply #34 |
56. I'll call it far left then if that is more palatable |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. If you use the same language as rightwingers, what does that imply? |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. You actually do more to make a case in support of the term |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. BAM! Way to slap down a lefty! |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
58. Democracy is about compromise |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
60. just throw us a few bones that the old school cons agree upon too |
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mouse7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
64. Depends on who is threatening. |
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BruinAlum (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 07:44 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Bill and Hillary Clinton have devoted too much to the Democratic Party |
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Scottie72 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
66. Kerry needs to be careful |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. He doesn't support a Federal Constitutional Amendment |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Don't confuse 'em with facts... |
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MurikanDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-24-04 10:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I'm sorry. I don't know what came over me. I lost my head. |
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