straight up...if you could make dean the nominee today

[bearfartinthewoods]

Poll question: straight up...if you could make dean the nominee today

if you could wave a magic wand and do away with primaries and make dean the nominee today, would you?

[Padraig18]

1. No, and I support Dean

The primaries are a great system, and they serve a purpose--- to harden the candidate for battle, and to form coalitions.

[CMT]

2. that is why we have primaries to settle who the nominee will be

and frankly whoever wins the nomination will be the strongest candidate to put up vs. Bush. He/she will be battle tested and showed the ability to win the most votes/delegates in a rough and tumble 50-state battle.

[Capn Sunshine]

3. Just because Dean is overpowering the others

doesn't mean we cancel the elections. I want to hear more Al Sharpton. He's got some great stuff to say.

[ryharrin]

4. No.

I'm excited about months of elections, it'll be lots of fun. Though I would use that wand to make all the candidates unable to say anything bad about each other.

[bearfartinthewoods]

5. can i even hope that those six yes votes are lurking freeps?

[Upfront]

6. Hey Farts

One of those was mine. I know in my heart, that its over, Dean won. All attacks from here on out help B### win. Yes, let the vote continue as it should, but stop the attacks on all candidates. We are destroying our selves. You won't trust me, but I would say the same if Clark won, or Kerry, or who ever. You can continue to elect B### or you can face facts, and get real.

[bearfartinthewoods]

21. we all go where our hearts lead us...

[plurality]

7. no, and as for the map...

easy add Ohio. They're hurting from the Bush economy, if we could pick them up nad retain all the other Gore states, we're fine.

[bearfartinthewoods]

8. ok...that's the second person who has said ohio is in play

any local polls you've seen?

[plurality]

9. here you go...

a Nov. 14 poll with Bush at 54/41. No head to head or anything, but those numbers to me say in play.

http://www.ipr.uc.edu/PDF/OhioPoll/op111403.pdf

[bearfartinthewoods]

22. thanks but those numbers are too close to what we have in PA that

have me worried that PA may slip/

[LWolf]

10. Not only no,

but Hell No.

One time too many. I am hovering over ABD at this moment.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=39573

[Donna Zen]

12. Please...be part of the solution.

In November you will either get to vote for a Democrat you really like and care about or you get to vote against bush. Try thinking of it that way. I know it help me.

[LWolf]

13. I'm trying.

If Dean supporters want me to be there, they could start demanding truth from their candidate. Or withholding support in response to dishonesty.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

15. "withholding support in response to dishonesty"

Isn't it unbelievable, no matter what lie Dean produces, they defend it to no end, spinning it this way and that. I have no problem saying I do not agree with Kucinich's flag burning vote, but a Deanie to actually admit Dean lied or misrepresented! Would pigs fly?


TWL

[JohnKleeb]

19. I'll do what I can Donna but this really is an insult to what people like

DK and Sharpton fought against the war for. Last October I didnt see Howard Dean in Washington DC decrying the war in Iraq, I saw Reverend Al Sharpton, it wasnt Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean but her and Dennis Kucinich who led the brave charge against IWR in the house. I'll support Dean if hes our nominee but this is really insulting because we know what Dennis and Al did. Dean was far from alone in opposition to the war, and in fact I could argue that some were more adamant.

[curse10]

11. Hell no

And I can't believe people would vote "yes".

[mermaid]

14. This has been duped, BUT

Again, here is a plausible scenario that wins without the south.

The Blue Guys (the good guys...us)
We get the following states

AZ CA CT DC DE HI IL MA MD MI MN NH NJ NM NV NY OR PA RI VT WA WI WV

Final tally: 272

You'll notice there is not a single Southern state in this...I didn't even give FL to the good guys in this scenario!

Who needs the brainwashed, bass-ackwards South, anyway? We aren't gonna win hearts and minds there...all the Repukes gotta do is keep on using their code phrase of States' Rights...which really means "anti-civil rights" and the South will mindlessly vote for Bush.

And before anyone throws a hissy, note very carefully, I AM A SOUTHERNER!!

Because of that, I know the realities.
Screw the South. We can win without 'em!

the above mentioned states can be won with relatively little effort or money spent...why waste a pile of money trying to convert brainwashed rednecks?

Now, if we could manage to get either FL or OH, plus at least MOST of the states I mentioned, we have a lock!

We need to pile on the money in FL and OH. Screw the rest of the South. Waste of good campaign money, if you ask me.

For the record, I am ABB, and plan to cast my vote for the Dem candidate, even though I know that, as a resident of Texas, my vote isn't gonna count, because my state's 32 electorals are going to W no matter what I do...whether or not I like it (and I don't, by the way!!)

But I will still go out and vote!

[DemBones DemBones]

16. I wouldn't even vote to wave a magic wand and make Kucinich

the nominee today! He needs to WIN the primaries, and send Dean back to Vermont to mow his lawn and let his wife stay with her practice. (If Dean actually won, I'd almost bet on her staying in Vermont.)

We must have our primaries, no matter who the frontrunner is now.

[Clark Can WIN]

17. No, if I had a majic wand...............

Well let's just say little Georgie AWOL would be shaking in his cheap texas boots.

[JohnKleeb]

18. My magic wand has a lot better things to do

[maddezmom]

20. nope