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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:36 PM
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Hillary Clinton plans to use Colin Powell to restore Americas Image?
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 01:38 PM by bunnies
Are you kidding me?

SPARTANBURG, S.C. Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that if elected U.S. president she would call on former Secretary of State Colin Powell as part of a bipartisan diplomatic delegation to be sent abroad to restore America's image.

(snip)

"I won't even wait until I'm inaugurated, but as soon as I'm elected I'm going to be asking distinguished Americans of both parties people like Colin Powell, for example and others who can represent our country well, including someone I know very well, " she said smiling while making reference to her husband and former President Bill Clinton. "Because I want to send a message heard across the world. The era of cowboy diplomacy is over."


more here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313210,00.html
and here: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/11/clinton...

edit: restore. not resore.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:37 PM
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1. Oh, for crying out loud...
Colin Powell sold this country down the river ~ what is she thinking?!?!?!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:39 PM
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5. my thoughts exactly.
this is totally off the wall.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:41 PM
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12. yep, not a good move, that...
Powell lost any credibility he had when he lied to the UN about Iraq.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:50 PM
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94. in her reply to my e-mail
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 12:52 PM by PATRICK
at the time of the vote, Hillary specifically based her vote on trust of what Powell had said, as if in her personal experience of the great man- who undercut and grouched against her husband as a potential rival throughout his administration- there could be no worthier guarantor of the need for war(everyone believes Powell the e-mail seemed to gush). She might as well have been a FOX news reporter. Daftness tends never to learn much less admit such error. Thanks to this untimely gratuitous rush to gush over a prime liar for her disastrous authorization vote she confirms pretty much what she said then.

There is special despair in knowing that innocent lives will be squandered because of that unwavering poor judgment.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:48 PM
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26. Please..
Rec'd, then. :)
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:57 PM
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35. Sorry, but I just don't believe that
Powell's speech to the UN used information he highly suspected but didn't know for a fact was false. He's regretted it ever since. I sense that Powell is a good man; Powell is not a batshit crazy neocon. He may be a Republic, but he's one of the "good" Republics. Olympia Snowe would be another example of a "good" Republic.

Powell may have lost some credibility after the UN speech, but who knows what he told world leaders he met with afterwards off the record. And, Powell has been nothing but critical of this administration since he left while at the same time maintaining his persona of being the "good and loyal soldier".

I think Powell would do this not just for Hillary, but for just about anyone that was the president. He'd probably turn down Bush.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:56 PM
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53. my lai..
powell has been a whitewasher since jump. he's a piece of shit.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:14 PM
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54. Hmm... good point.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:55 PM
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70. If he "highly suspected" the information was false...
he should never have argued using that information. period. I really dont give a damn how "sorry" he is. Hillary is Not Sorry... and shes the one hiring him.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:43 PM
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84. Sorry...
... he lied and he knew there was a high probability that what he was saying was untrue.

You can make all the excuses for him you wish to, but you are not going to fool any of us who were here when all of this stuff went down and who KNEW that these "facts" he was spouting were not true.

In fact, I quit giving money to public radio after 17 years when on one Sunday morning, Powell came on and blathered his load of bullshit for 5 minutes - and then there was no analysis, no counterpoint, no critique, no nothing - just a raving lackey military "shine your shoes sir" jerk saying what he was told to say.

No more credibility for Powell, who had a HISTORIC opportunity to stand up and do the right think and maybe just maybe foil Bush's march to war, but who instead folded like a paper napkin and lied his ass off.

And no more money for NPR. Fuck those liars too.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:09 AM
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92. Those of us who witnessed Powells demonstration before
the UN coupled with the facts about Iraq's supposed WMD's should have known that the whole damn thing was a very phony and sloppy presentation. Most people who were really concerned and knowledgable about an Iraq invasion were voicing their concerns, especially in Europe.
Powell has proved himself to be a not so very smart politician and a person who will do anything to further his own ambitions. Research Powell re.Mai Lai.
Hillary Clinton is exhibiting very poor judgement in entertaining using anyone from Bush's administration. No way can I support her and I am not alone.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:15 PM
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46. She will probably throw in Lee Hamilton and James Baker, too..
as well as the rest of the hacks that are always floating around when commissions are put together.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:27 PM
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51. I'm not Jewish, but there's only one word that comes to mind...
Oyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:35 PM
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86. Isn't that Australian? n/t
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #86
93. Hmm
That would be "Oi" Which would also be acceptable if yoru a brit Punk sort.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:19 PM
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56. N/T
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 03:37 PM by IA_Seth
REMOVED. UNABLE TO FIND PROOF OF APOLOGY.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:28 PM
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57. When did Powell apologize, using the words "I'm sorry"???nt
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:38 PM
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58. I couldn't find a link..
So I deleted my post. I am almost positive that I've heard an apology on a morning news show, but I don't have time to search forever... so I'll just say I was wrong and be done with it.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:36 PM
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65. Colin Powell?
I guess John Negroponte had other plans.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:41 PM
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68. Lol - Rumsfeld too I guess...
What a slap in the face this is!
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:43 PM
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74. She is an ignorant ass.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:38 PM
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2. That's idiotic. nt
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:38 PM
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3. "resore"? It's not sore enough already?
:hide:

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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:43 PM
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16. It was probably more appropriate before I fixed it.
;)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:38 PM
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4. in the meantime, Powell has been advising Obama.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:54 PM
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31. C'mon Wyld...
even you have got to admit this is not a smart move. Obama talking to him was bad... but Clinton making him an international delegate is worse. A proven liar. A war criminal. To represent our nation? Can you think of any good reason for it?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:56 PM
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33. c'mon bunnie. Let's separate reality from just talk
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 01:57 PM by wyldwolf
Obama has/is taking foreign policy advice from Powell.

Clinton has done NOTHING with Powell.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:59 PM
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39. no. not yet.
but she will if she becomes President. A candidate talking to someone isnt the same & you know it. Has Obama plans to use Powell in his administration?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:03 PM
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40. So I repeat - Clinton has done NOTHING with Powell. I can't see into the future...
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 02:22 PM by wyldwolf
...like you can. :)
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:20 PM
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49. Well.
I DO have a magic 8 ball Wyld. Don't make me use it. :)

On another note... I admire your dedication to your candidate. Even if it means we rarely agree.
:toast:
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:05 PM
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42. I guess it was okay for us to kill all those Iraqis because Saddam was going it too
I love your reasoning wyldwolf. Grow up.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:23 PM
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50. It takes an adult to stay on topic, so you need to do the growing up.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:29 PM
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62. Deleted message
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:34 PM
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64. another troll reply from Pawel K
Psst! Since the subject is Colin Powell and Hillary Clinton, most would agree Powell's chummy relationship with Obama is quite relevant to the discussion.

Killing Iraqis isn't.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:37 PM
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66. No he hasn't.
They talked. Nothing more, nothing less.

Get your facts straight, Hillbot, I mean, wyldwolf.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:43 PM
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69. yes he has
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 04:46 PM by wyldwolf
..unless you're going to try and draw some weird distinction between talking about Foreign policy a number of time and advising on it.

Get your facts straight, Obamanut, I mean, Nedsdag.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:39 PM
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6. One thing I dislike is when candidate supporters somehow think
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 01:39 PM by quinnox
they have to agree with everything their candidate does, no matter what. That they can't criticize their candidate. Well its rare but I don't agree with Hillary on this and I'm not afraid to say so.

I don't like this at all, and Hillary is wrong to even consider Powell for any position!

Powell is a traitor to the United States for what he did.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:36 PM
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52. This is so refreshing.
I wish more people had that reasoning.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:39 PM
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7. Yep send out one of the culprits to redeem our image.
Jeezem, Powell was smack dab in the middle of creating the damage in the first place.



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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:46 PM
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23. And a general on top of that.
I don't think the way to deal with America's militaristic image is to send out a general for PR.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:48 PM
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25. Or at least a general who actually has stood up to the neocons
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:39 PM
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8. It's a good idea to reach across the aisle, or you have Woodrow Wilson all over again. nt
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:41 PM
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11. Reaching across the aisle is one thing.
but Colin frigging Powell?!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:49 PM
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27. And reaching down in
the gutter..how do you feel about that, Mook?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:40 PM
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9. Surreal.
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 01:43 PM by AtomicKitten
"What kind of fuckery is this?" * Amy Winehouse
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:45 PM
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22. fuckery of the worst kind.
me thinks.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:58 PM
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38. word
:scared:

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #22
87. verily; and well said at that...
"Drop out mine eyeballs and let envious
fortune play at tennis with 'em!"

From "The Athiest's Tragedy" by Cyril Tourneur

Incredible.

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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:40 PM
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10. She'll get a pass from many of her supporters on this board
They raked Obama over the coals regarding reports that he talked with Powell, even saying Obama was being advised as neocons.

This will be no problem for many of her supporters.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:42 PM
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13. If she makes it, I hope she doesn't offer the position to Powell.
Her husband offered him a position in his administration but he turned it down. What makes her think he won't turn her down? Plus, he's proven that he is not all that.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:43 PM
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14. Oh, Hillary - this is going to do so much for your image with conservatives.
Not.

Hillary sure knows how to pander, she's got that down better than anyone. Just what we need in our next President. To hell with change, let's tell 'em what they want to hear and do something else! :eyes:

Atta girl, Hill!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:43 PM
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15. Perfect, and expected.
Meet the new boss...

...same as the old boss.
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:48 PM
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88. Deleted n/t
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 10:50 PM by Zueda
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:43 PM
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17. I didn't like it when Obama took his advice,
and I don't like Clinton suggesting that she will either. Tenet and Powell capitulated to Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:29 PM
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79. Talking to him is not necessarily the same as taking his advice.
I'm sure whoever gets elected next year will be doing a lot of talking with whoever is in charge at that point. (I won't say George because he might be leaving early. :evilgrin:
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:44 PM
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18. Has she lost her mind? He's a war criminal.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:44 PM
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19. I hear that Karen Hughes is available too
:eyes:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:44 PM
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20. I think the best analogy is 'water sinking to its own level'.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:44 PM
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21. Yeah, right "Are you kidding me" he is one of the reasons we have
this image. This goes to show you with Hillary, it will be more of the same as in this administration.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:47 PM
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24. Rec'd!
It's all show and no substance with this crowd. What? She thinks nobody knows :wtf: powell's been up to for the last few decades?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:49 PM
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28. Switching to "cowgirl" diplomacy?? n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:52 PM
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29. Lol, exactly what I thought when I read that line! nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:54 PM
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30. Powell NEVER advocated the cowboy diplomacy. nt
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:56 PM
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34. He did the moment he lied to the UN. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:42 PM
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73. He hoped that would spur the UN to act. He's on record as saying so at the time.
He deserves a world of criticism, but advocating cowboy diplomacy is not one of them. Not doing enough to stop it? Yes. But advocating it? No.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:57 PM
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36. Yes he did -- repeatedly
Buy going to the UN and giving that phony report to justify an invasion, he was advocating for cowboy diplomacy.

By echoing and carrying out the claims of the bush administration -- and defending the administration's foreign policy, he was advocating cowboy diplomacy.

By both commission and omission, he was one of the prime enablers of the policies and actions that have caused the damage to America's reputation and actual power in the world.

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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:23 PM
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77. According to Bamford's "The Pretext for War"
Powell was among the people at the table in 1992 when the first version of PNAC was written. Besdes, while he cheerfully takes credit for a policy written by a dozen people, The Powell Doctrine, he never raised an eyebrow as he watched this junta violate all of its principles when invading Iraq. I've come to believe that Powell's touted smarts and abilities are just a myth. WTH is a pro-choice, pro-affirmative action person doing hanging out with a bunch of creeps?

Powell=the values of none.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:56 PM
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32. WTF?? I hear Rumsfeld's available too...
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:58 PM
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37. Yet "another" reason I can't support her.There is no limit to her political expedience.
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 01:59 PM by saracat
And some praise her "judgment" and find fault with the "judgment" of other candidates? This is unbelievable but predictable from the camp of the "alleged front runner".
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sistagoldilocks42 Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:03 PM
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41. It's Not Who Votes, But Who Counts Them
Powell aka Bowel is a cow toe. We make them pay on the ROCK for their treacherous behavior.

Hillary and Powell should be sent to the Hague. I am against the death penalty but "Off With Their Heads"
Wake up my fellow American, I know many of you are brainwashed by the pope and false Christianity. Live free or die.

Love and Light
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:09 PM
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43. Since there were so many "jump the shark" threads yesterday...
We all remember when Colon Bowels jumped the shark.

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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:13 PM
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44. K&R. I will never vote for Hillary.
But I have a hard time believing she would actually send the traitor Powell to restore our image. Incredible.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:14 PM
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45. Colin Powell?!? One of the most disgraceful episodes in American History
Some might argue, and I would be one of them, that Powell's Tissue of Lies before the UN can't be grouped in with American History, as Bushes Imperial Amerika has nothing to do with that country, doesn't believe the same things as that country did, and is on the side of dictators and tyrants full and 100% now, whereas Old America at least supported Human Rights with one face while supporting Bushie Vassal Dictators like Marcos and Pinochet with another.

I wonder if this is a Fox Noise Special Lie, though, but if it is true...that's disgusting.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:38 PM
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67. Faux news. Thats the reason I cited two sources.
It appears to be true. Amazing isnt it?
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:17 PM
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47. People?
:wtf: :banghead: Who is going to look down the road once again and realize the mistake made? That is the question. I know not this guy. But keep us informed though.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 02:18 PM
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48. I'm certainly not surprised anymore.
Not in the least.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:17 PM
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55. Well, that just put her out of the running for me.
Poor judge of character.

With seats on the Supreme Court almost certainly coming up during the next President's term, this kind of...Jesus, what is it exactly?

It just seems scary stupid to let Powell near ANYTHING involving policy or the face we put on American diplomacy.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:45 PM
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59. Can someone explain to me why Powell is a go-to guy on ANYTHING?
What has he ever done that was so spectacular that he still has this much reputation and this much credibility, that candidates are still dropping his name? I don't hate the guy, I think he's smart and it's unfortunate that he sullied his own integrity and honor by consorting with BushCo, but--what elevates him to greatness, at this point?
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:56 PM
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60. SHE'S LOST IT. COLON BOWEL??!! This isn't 1998!!!
Hillary my dear. You still have to win the Democratic nomination don't you???? Many Dems believe Colon Bowel to be the worst SOS next to Condo Rice. Are you out of your mind???

This cinches it. Her campaign doesn't know what the f*** they're doing. She's obviously (and foolishly) running a general election campaign. But here's the instructional part:

If she said it during a general election campaign, that would also be stupid, since Powell has been
discredited among many Independents as well. Many Indeps also feel Powell let them down in the run-up to Iraq.

We go with Hillary at our peril.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 03:56 PM
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61. Please tell me she didn't really say that
Please please please.

Come on, you have got to be kidding.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 04:33 PM
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63. He played one of the most important roles in destroying our image
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 04:33 PM by killbotfactory
His bullshit testimony convinced many democrats that we should invade.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:20 PM
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71. That's like using feces to clean the floors.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:42 PM
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72. that should be nominated for a DUzy
I just don't know how
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 07:59 PM
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75. The era of cowboy diplomacy gives way to the era of cowgirl diplomacy!
I still remember Colin Powell's speech to UN about Iraq's mobile WMD labs. Where was Hillary? Why not invite Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz while we are out?
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:23 PM
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76. What's next she'll announce that "Dr." Condi Rice is her running mate....
my point is Mr. Powell and Condi both lied and new that they lied, not the bs we here from Colin that he was mis-led. I would be more interested in Mr. Powell being served with a subpoena by the judiciary committee. (Condi would just ignore it...) Both need to serve time!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:28 PM
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78. Image, eh? Maybe he'll show some satellite pictures to the UN
oh, wait, he already did that.

you might want to un-edit your edit, because re-sore works quite well.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:33 PM
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80. Powell will feel right at home
hanging out with Michael O'Hanlon (Clinton foreign policy advisor and PNAC) and Gen. Jack Keane (AEI and Clinton's military advisor.) Maybe they can go around the world and champion another surge...somewhere...anywhere. Cowboy roundup redux.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 08:40 PM
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81. This is the guy that has warned us of the new terrorism industrial...
complex that will only exist if we are in fear or having attacks. She is the woman that had a fund raiser for the people in the terrorism defense industry so they could have a meet and greet with elected officials that could help their new found business. Just seems strange that they would be teamed up together?
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:28 PM
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82. is this the same Colin Powell
who has been involved in My Lai, who was up to his neck in Iran Contra, who failed to get the needed armor to the troops in Somalia, and who most recently knowingly lied is ass off in front of the world in order to justify an illegal invasion?

Great call, senator.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:37 PM
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83. Yes, that's the one
Not to be confused with his son, Michael, who screwed over at the FCC.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:35 PM
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89. Remember that it was Bill Clinton who appointed Michael Powell to FCC
The Bushes and the Clintons are wrong for America!
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:45 AM
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91. Geeze!
I didn't know that. And another block clicks into place.

Matt Stoller just had a diary at Open Left about the woman who is out bundling money for Clinton. It seems that the woman is straight out of the big media pocket, and wants a job.

"Her FCC Chair choice, Ness, is well-liked by broadcasters, a surefire sign of problems. And Clinton's plan for broadband is modeled off of Connect Kentucky, an industry-written plan that defines broadband at 200K, which is 500 times slower than the speed of broadband in Japan. Worse, it excludes net neutrality. And if Clinton has a position on media consolidation, it's not a priority in her campaign. She has been silent on wireless spectrum and won't even give a straight answer on retroactive immunity for telecom companies."

Open Left
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:31 PM
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85. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
Splutter, splutter, gasp, thud.

What is the MATTER with this person?!

How dare anyone support her after this abusive bullshit. Let's send William Calley as a goodwill ambassador to Vietnam. Let's trot out Kissinger and prop him up somewhere; he's still got more up his sleeve. Hell, we've already got Negroponte and Abrams back in action, let's give Oliver North a trim and a slight coat of polyurethane and send him off to be Ambassador to Venezuela.

This also reeks of playing the race card in her little minuet with Obama.

The sheer revulsion she brings forth is only slightly buffered by the trust I have in my fellow humans to see this kind of ward-heeling for what it is.

Come on partisans, you're whoppertunists and weasels if you can support her after this; give it your best!

Booooooooooooooo!
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:06 AM
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90. that's our Hillary!
you can't take this shit seriously anymore.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:59 PM
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95. stupid, stupid, stupid
she has a better chance restoring America's image by using Bill (who is well liked and respected) than Colin "I sold my soul to the devil and helped fuck up America for years to come" Powell :eyes:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:04 PM
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96. Knowing Hillary, she'll probably entertain a vote
on who she should choose as the best political envoy..

Probably between Powell or Gore.
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milord Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:32 PM
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97. powell will not do.
Powell ruined his chances at doing any good when he sold out to bush. there is no way to re-assemble humpty-dumpty. or to put it another way, he can't restore his virginity. once it's lost, it's lost.I don't want him representing me in any way.
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