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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:24 PM
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Joe Klein: The Tone-Deaf Democrats
TIME: The Tone-Deaf Democrats
Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2007
By JOE KLEIN

Senator Christopher Dodd had a nice moment in the Democrats' Las Vegas presidential debate. Wolf Blitzer had crashed through Bill Richardson's blowsy, high-minded disquisition on the need to observe human rights in Pakistan, with the question, "What you're saying, Governor, is that human rights, at times, are more important than American national security?" Richardson seemed to gulp: Was I saying that? What do I do now? Uh, can't pull a Hillary. And so, very deer in headlights, he said, "Yes." This gave Blitzer license to ask each candidate the same question. Barack Obama wandered around in it. "The concepts are not contradictory ... they are complementary." True — but foolishly fuzzy. It was Dodd's turn next, and he said without hesitation, "Obviously, national security, keeping the country safe." He was quickly seconded by Clinton: "I agree with that completely."

But the damage had been done. The next day, I suffered through Rush Limbaugh lambasting the dopey Dems, who actually — can you believe this, friends? — put the rights of terrorists above the nation's security! That was ridiculous. All Richardson and Obama were saying was that support for human rights was an essential component of U.S. foreign policy. They are joined in this belief by George W. Bush, whose naive support for democracy in countries that aren't ready for it has destabilized the Middle East. Sadly, that sort of complicating detail isn't very useful in presidential campaigns. If Richardson or, more likely, Obama wins the nomination, the Republicans will have a ready-made "Human Rights for Terrorists" spot.

Dodd and Clinton were right on the merits and astute on the politics. If the Democrats want to win in 2008, they can't be mealymouthed on issues of national security. That doesn't mean they need to be witlessly hawkish. It doesn't mean they have to join the neoconservative frenzy for war with Iran. It means they have to make the arguments against folly with clarity, toughness and a heavy dose of Realpolitik. It means they will have to convince the public that they will be more effective and realistic overseas than the Republicans have been. No more "Freedom Agendas." No more quagmires. A renewed emphasis on cleaning out al-Qaeda, even if it means special operations against the terrorist camps in Pakistan (as Obama has suggested). It also means that in each and every debate, the Dems should acknowledge the progress being made in Iraq and ask the question, So why can't we start bringing home the troops now?

That sort of clarity has been rare in the presidential campaign and almost totally nonexistent among the Democrats in Congress, who are being foolishly partisan on two key issues: continued funding for the war in Iraq and updating the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The Iraq-funding issue is particularly difficult. Senator Carl Levin's proposal for a gradual troop withdrawal, starting now, is the right policy. Various Bush Administration officials — though none in the White House — have told me that a troop withdrawal is the best leverage we have for shoving the Iraqis into a national-reconciliation deal. But Levin made troop withdrawal a condition for continued funding of the war, which is a kamikaze mission. The bill couldn't muster the votes necessary to overcome a filibuster, much less the inevitable Bush veto. Indeed, with Iraq calmer for the moment, Democrats probably have fewer votes for ending the war than they did last spring. And their continued indulgence in these futile, symbolic gestures conveys a sense of weakness and incompetence. Whatever political value these votes once had — getting Republicans on the record in favor of continuing the war — has long since dissipated and may actually work against the Democrats if the progress in Iraq continues.

The Democratic strategy on the FISA legislation in the House is equally foolish....

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As Dodd said, when the President takes the oath of office, he (or she) promises two things: to protect the Constitution and to protect the nation against enemies, foreign and domestic. If the Democrats can't find the proper balance between those two, they simply will not win the presidency.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1686509,00.html?xid=site-cnn-partner
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:35 PM
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1. designated party of failure-money party pulls strings-all bullshit appearances
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:47 PM
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2. Klein is such a tool
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 01:48 PM by underpants
The Republicans are strong and decisive and that is all Karl tells him that it takes

The Dems are too slow and mushy but when they jump on Wolf for asking a dumb question or answer correctly they are tone-deaf to what EVERYONE he knows is telling him.

Have another drink Joe they are free as long as you play nice and keep getting invited to the cocktail party.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:52 PM
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3. Fuck Klein.
And the answer to that question is stunningly simple:

"you don't have to sacrifice one for the other. strong national security can be accomplished without abandoning our history of standing up for human rights".
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:21 PM
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4. Mr. "Primary Colors" can go piss up a rope.
n/t
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 03:05 PM
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5. Oh, how convenient. He ignored Biden's statement.
Joe Biden stated emphatically that national security comes first. Why is the one with the best answers so often ignored? It's very frustrating.
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