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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 02:01 AM
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LATimes OpEd: Obama as the Red-Blue Uniter
Obama as the red-blue uniter
November 16, 2007

It says something about modern politics that Sen. Barack Obama has faced some of his sharpest attacks over the charge that he's too conciliatory.

Liberal activists who consider Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton suspiciously centrist complain that Obama hasn't "taken off the gloves" against her in the Democratic presidential race. From another angle, former Sen. John Edwards ridicules Obama's pledge to reduce the influence of insurance and drug companies but still provide them a voice in negotiations on healthcare reform. There's no negotiating with these business interests, Edwards insists -- the only way to achieve universal coverage is to beat them.

Obama has given a nod to the first critics by sharpening his differences with Clinton. But he is holding his ground against Edwards and like-minded liberals who maintain that major change won't come unless the next president rallies Democrats for a crusade against the economic and ideological forces that they believe stand in the party's way. Obama argues the reverse: Big change won't come unless the next president builds a broad coalition that attracts voters and constituencies beyond the party's base. "No party has a monopoly on wisdom or virtue," Obama said in an interview. And real progress, he insists, isn't possible with just "a 50-plus-one majority."

* snip *

All of this echoes the last Democratic president, who also sought to build bridges by fusing new thinking with old values. Obama acknowledges that Bill Clinton in many respects pointed the party in the direction he wants it to follow. "He made some progress . . . on the policy side," Obama allows. But he believes that the Clintonian version of consensus focuses too much on finding a poll-driven midpoint between the parties rather than uniting Americans around fundamentally new approaches. And he argues that the Clintons incite such intense emotions that Hillary Clinton could not deliver on reconciliation even if she intends to pursue it.

Could Obama, as he claims, unite the country more effectively than Hillary Clinton? Obama's great asset as a political peacemaker -- touted in Andrew Sullivan's impassioned essay in the December issue of the Atlantic -- is that he hasn't been scarred by decades of cultural and political conflict. Clinton's great strength is her scars: She has survived enough combat to have learned something about avoiding it, as she demonstrated by shrewdly designing her new healthcare plan to court the small-business and insurance lobbies that sank her 1993 proposal.

With Clinton, there's another issue. On an intellectual level, she recognizes the value of coalition building, but her gut instinct is to respond to a punch with a punch. She could prove too much a warrior to forge a truce in Washington. Obama, a silky mediator more respected than feared, faces the opposite question: In an age of extreme partisanship, is he tough enough to make peace?

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-brownstein16nov16,0,5452391.column?coll=la-opinion-columnists
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 02:11 AM
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Good piece.
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 02:12 AM by ellisonz
Obama is an innovator.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 02:11 AM
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1. excellent
Brownstein gets it. We only saw a flicker tonight : this is about a positive future , and getting back the American "Can do" attitude.

Barack Obama is the man to wake that up inthis country.
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 02:25 AM
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2. I dared to say this on another thread and didn't get killed for it...
...yet. :)

I think a Clinton/Obama ticket, if ever that would miraculously happen, would be... interesting. Jus' sayin'.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:49 AM
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3. kick
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:00 PM
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4. What a crock of horse shit.
The media is now supporting a "truce" now that the Democrats are in a position to retake the reigns of power. I don't recall ever hearing much about "unity" during Bush's tenure. I don't recall hearing the calls for "unity" during Clinton's tenure when he was savaged by a GOP congress.

Go to HELL, worthless rag!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:04 PM
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5. Obama believes ratcheting down the screeching is required to move forward
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 05:47 PM by AtomicKitten
... and actually fix the myriad of problems in America, and that pissy posturing with hands-on-hips will further stymie these efforts.

Some here seem interested in reliving the GOP hate-festival for all things Clinton during the 1990s. Others not so much.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:08 PM
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6. That's your opinion. Also, as an Obama supporter...
I would expect you to defend him blindly.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:19 PM
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11. I don't need to defend him.
I support him and his candidacy, but don't agree with everything.

I happen to agree with him on this.

If you don't, fine. But trying to marginalize and mischaracterize those that do agree with him is kinda cheesy.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:22 PM
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13. It's a fact.
If you don't support Obama, Edwards, or Kucinich at DU, you are immediately attacked for supporting
someone who is a "right winger" or a "corporatist". It's a crock of shit. The Hillary and Biden supporters have experienced all to much around here.

And again, I have not "marginalize and mischaracterized" anyone who supports Obama.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:25 PM
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14. Riiiiiiight.
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 05:26 PM by AtomicKitten
Obama has been treated with kid gloves around here.

:sarcasm:

It is pretty apparent your own particular brand of blindness is impeding your ability to tell the forest for the trees.

Hey, I've got an idea. Don't vote for him.

edited for the sarcasm smilie
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:31 PM
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16. I'm voting for Biden actually.
read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/16/opinion/16krugman.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Obama & Co are the one's who can't see the forest from the trees. You do not play nice with people who want to wipe you out. This goes back way before the 1990's. Reagan wanted to undo the safety net, Goldwater wanted to undo the safety net, Senator Taft wanted to undo the safety net, Dewey wanted to undo the safety net, Wall Street never wanted the safety net in the first place. As you can see this fight goes back 70+ years. It was only in the last generation that the right wing organized itself to become a menacing force against progressive policy.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:11 PM
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7. there will be a GOP hate festival no matter who the DEM
candidate is. what do you think this "Obama didn't salute the flag" and "obama attended a madrassa" crap is about? If you think there will be no GOP hatefest with Obama you are seriously deluded.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:16 PM
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9. Exactly! That is why I do not want Obama.
He was made in the same mold as Evan "kum-Bayh-ya". Let's all get along play nice
with those who WANT US DEAD! I said it before, I'll say it again, we have to fight the Islamic terrorists over there and the Reich Wing terrorists over here.

The only reason that Andy Sullivan :puke: is "fawning" all over Obama is because he wants to see the Democratic party falter again so that the GOP can get another chance at governing. He knows that the Neo-Cons have made a disaster and the only way for the GOP to win again (at least in the next decade) is for the Democrats to be beaten by any means.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:18 PM
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10. well, at least it will be new material
Nobody suggested the GOP will behave otherwise.

Obama has articulated his plan on coming at them head-on with no lag time in response to their assault, and not allowing them an inch in impeding doing the people's business.

Finally, at least he doesn't come into this with a plethora of vintage hatred paraphernalia in stock.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:14 PM
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8. Unity, principle, and real progress...
How utterly boring.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:21 PM
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12. It's interesting that the very thought of this has some verklempt.
There are plenty of candidates willing to resume the 1990s slug-fest, Obama not so much.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:27 PM
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15. This passage sums it up for me:
"e believes that the Clintonian version of consensus focuses too much on finding a poll-driven midpoint between the parties rather than uniting Americans around fundamentally new approaches.

"And he argues that the Clintons incite such intense emotions that Hillary Clinton could not deliver on reconciliation even if she intends to pursue it."

Republicans have great difficulty denouncing a universal health care plan (which is a very popular idea these days). They have little problems denouncing "Hillarycare."

Although this seems like mere semantics, it certainly wouldn't be the case when the next Democratic President tries to push a plan through Congress.

I don't want poll-tested triangulation, I want someone who can explain our very correct ideas to conservatives in a way that doesn't make them defensive. No one can do that better than Obama. Looking back, you'd have to look hard for a public figure with a better ear for how to get across truly liberal ideas in a way that makes them seem like common sense.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:32 PM
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17. I agree those semantics may very well be the difference between
stalemate and success.

Obama has promised healthcare for all Americans by the end of his first term. Although I prefer Kucinich's plan, I believe Obama can and will deliver on his promise, his way.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 06:08 PM
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18. Agreed. nt
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