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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:07 AM
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‘Made in China’ hazards began with ‘Made in Washington, D.C.’
Democratic Presidential candidate Kucinich charges

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/newsroom/%91made-in-china%92-hazards-began-with-%91made-in-washington,-d.c.%92/

WASHINGTON, D.C. – “Made in China” has become a health and safety warning label for American consumers following the recalls of tens of millions of Chinese-made toys, but the “real warning label should say ‘Made in Washington, D.C. by corporate lobbyists’ because the life-threatening hazards of these products were either ignored or brushed off by members of the Congress seven yeas ago,” Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich said today.

And, at least one then-member of the Senate, John Edwards, who has been railing lately in favor of higher safety standards for Chinese-made products, defended his 2000 vote supporting expanded China trade with the famously reported comment, “it does us no good to pretend that these remedies are perfect and that people will not be hurt.”

“Senator Edwards knew seven years ago that people would be hurt, so why did he vote for China trade?” Kucinich asked. “How credible is his newfound consumer protectionism and his campaign advocacy for trade reform to save American jobs?”


Kucinich, D-OH, noted that Edwards, who became a millionaire as a trial lawyer with considerable expertise in product liability matters, “knew better than any other member of the Senate what the risks were in sending U.S. manufacturing jobs to a country with almost no labor standards, no health and safety standards, and no environmental standards.”Beyond that, Kucinich pointed out, Edwards’vote in favor of the 2000 China trade agreement has resulted in the loss of more than 973,00 manufacturing jobs and more than 1.2 million jobs total, according to studies released by the AFL-CIO.

“If he knew then that this trade agreement would hurt people and put Americans out of work, he had a moral responsibility to vote against it,” said Kucinich, who has a perfect record in his votes against unfair trade agreements. “Like his now-regretted vote in favor of the resolution that led to the Iraq war, his votes on trade issues raise questions of judgment.” “When candidates stand in front of a union audience or in front of the cameras, they bemoan the three millions jobs that have been lost because of ‘free trade’ agreements,” Kucinich noted. “When they had a chance to vote as a member of Congress, they strongly supported those agreements. That means they voted against American workers, and, as recent events have shown, against American consumers.”

Kucinich cited an analysis conducted by Public Citizen in August http://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2007/08/how-the-prez-ca.html showing the actual voting records of all of the Presidential candidates on trade agreements. The report, titled “Eyes on Trade,” gave Kucinich the highest ranking of any candidate: 93% for supporting “fair trade” measures. He would have received a 100% ranking except he was absent for one of the votes."
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:25 AM
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1. Kucinich on China Trade Bill...and How the candidates voted
My two posts from September on this issue...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3511387

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1777600


Senate vote
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00251

House vote
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2000/roll228.xml


http://kucinich.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=1466#Other%20trade%20issues:%20Permanent%20MFN%20status%20for%20China

"Permanent MFN status for China

Contrary to what certain special interests said to Capitol Hill, it was neither necessary nor desirable to grant China permanent Most Favored Nation (MFN) trading status. Instead, Congress could and should continue to review China's trading status on an annual basis...

...Furthermore, giving China permanent MFN will be harmful to the U.S. economy, since the record trade deficit with China (and attendant problems such as loss of U.S. jobs, and lower average wages in the U.S.) will worsen. For 2000, the trade deficit was nearly $84 billion. Now that China has been awarded permanent MFN and is close to WTO membership, the trade deficit will worsen. In a September 30, 1999 report, the U.S. International Trade Commission concluded that China's accession to the WTO would cause "an increase in the U.S. trade deficit with China".

Conclusion -- There was no legal requirement to award China permanent MFN. Permanent MFN will be a drag on the U.S. economy and has cost us the best leverage we have to promote justice in China and throughout the world."
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 12:31 AM
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2. Video...Do we really need money from China?
"This was one of the most significant trade bills and of course we're starting to see now the effects..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxpnAhPXp04
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:51 AM
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3. Excellent, Dennis and you!
You really post the most important information and consistently. China trade may become a huge issue as the economy worsens and we need to know where the candidates are and have been. Thank you.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:55 AM
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7. Now if the media would pay as much attention to this issue and
to Dennis people would be better informed on who really stood up for them when it mattered.

And Thank You for the kind words.

:blush:

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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:02 AM
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8. That's the problem,
the media's marginalized Kucinich to the point that this message that Iowa Democrats really need to hear, probably won't be covered.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:11 AM
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10. Sad... that is what happens when someone not only says
they are for the people, but actually votes for the people.

And the media marginalizing Dennis not only stops voters, it stops people from wanting to become involved and donate to the campaign. In addition he does not have the 'perfect family' that we have all been conditioned to believe is necessary for WH.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:07 AM
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4. Is this a rhetorical question?
“Senator Edwards knew seven years ago that people would be hurt, so why did he vote for China trade?” Kucinich asked. “How credible is his newfound consumer protectionism and his campaign advocacy for trade reform to save American jobs?”

The answer seems pretty obvious to me. Edwards was a conservative Dem back then. Because that's what it took to get elected in NC, and made him a more attractive VP choice. Who knows how he really feels?

Fortunately, it probably doesn't matter.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:04 AM
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9. And unfortunately people will not hear this on the news, but I'm
glad that Dennis is speaking up on the issue.


Yes Bush and Clinton on the same side...


http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/19/pntr.vote.hfr/index.html

"Debate split both parties

The issue has split both parties over the past year. Democrats, led by the president, strained their ties with key allies in the labor movement when they supported the measure; conservative Republicans broke with the party's allies in the business community to oppose the bill.

Unions warn that the pact could cost hundreds of thousands of American workers their jobs as Chinese goods flood the U.S. market and companies move their factories to China to take advantage of lower wages...


In addition to Clinton and most of the business community, the major-party presidential candidates --Vice President Al Gore, the Democratic nominee, and Texas Gov. George W. Bush, the Republican standard-bearer -- supported the measure."




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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:12 AM
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5. Thank you Dennis!
K&R
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:20 AM
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6. Wow. He is so right. I haven't really been following his campaign, but I will now.
Go, Dennis.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:15 AM
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12. Could you imagine where our nation might be if we did not have
to clean up all the messes we got ourselves into and the people in charge really worked for the people :)

Thanks, I hope you do pay more attention.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:14 AM
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11. DK has been in this situation for decades
The media has never given him a fair shake.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:17 AM
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13. And we know who the media works for, not the people :( n/t
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:26 AM
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14. True enough. New is now 'infotainment;.
Its only value is revenue generation and power accumulation.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:31 AM
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15. Great summary! "revenue generation and power accumulation."
:thumbsup:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 01:03 PM
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16. K&R
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:23 PM
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18. Thank you :) n/t
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 07:40 PM
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17. Another reason I cannot support Edwards
in the primary.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:31 PM
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19. Me neither, almost every time I look I find another change of
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:38 PM
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20. I'm going to kick this for you again
because it's an important post for everyone to read. You represent Dennis well because you always back up your statements with links, sometimes several in one post! That's what makes a poster credible IMO. :thumbsup:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:12 PM
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21. Thanks so much....
:blush:

And I do believe it is an important issue and one that Dennis will try and raise in future debates.

:hi:
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:40 PM
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22. good to see this made the debate tonite too.
:kick:

dp
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:41 PM
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23. Yes
I wish Dennis had a little more time with it and that Edwards wasn't able to treat it as a joke.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:32 AM
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24. Yes and thanks for the kick....
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/15/democratic-candidates-talk-dangerous-chinese-imports/

"With tainted Chinese toy imports in the news ahead of the holiday season, candidates were asked if those who voted to fully open trade relations with China should bear some of the responsibility for consumers' fears.

Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich said yes and scolded Sen. John Edwards for voting to open up trade relations with China, "understanding that workers were going to be hurt."

"Now, you're a trial lawyer, you knew better," Kucinich said to Edwards on stage at the debate.

The former North Carolina senator responded to the debate question, not Kucinich, saying he felt it was a mistake to allow "China to operate unfettered, to send dangerous products into this country, to not have the president of the United States hold them responsible for their trading obligations to the WTO."

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:07 PM
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25. Kick! /nt
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