Al Franken declines to label himself as a 'critic of the war' on Hardball

[Feanorcurufinwe]

instead he labels himself as a critic of the Administration and 'the way we went to war'.


Sound familiar?

[RummyTheDummy]

1. So I guess he's a DLC'r now too?

Sometimes this board absolutely amazes me. Okay, okay...go ahead and tear Al apart. It's a self fulfilling prophecy that Dems must eat their young.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

5. Who do you expect to 'tear Al apart'? Me?

Sorry, not willing to oblige.

[RummyTheDummy]

9. Good. Then don't start pointless threads.

Or at least try making a point. That's always helpful.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

19. I have a present for you

CLICK HERE >>>


:eyes:

[oasis]

50. ooops! I'm just too nosey. That'll learn me. ;-)

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[BootinUp]

11. I think his political commentary is worthwhile

He does a good job of putting backbone in the average democrat.
Not saying I agree with everything he says of course.

[GreenArrow]

21. DLC --

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

[BootinUp]

2. Al's been pretty consistent on Iraq, nothing new -eom-

[Freddie Stubbs]

3. Sounds like someone who will be comfortable with Democratic nominee

[Zynx]

4. And your point is?

What exactly is your point? Is it that it is the same position as Kerry's?

You know, I think for myself and even people I respect have no bearing on my beliefs and thoughts.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

6. When you read the newspaper

do you stop every couple of paragraphs to call up the newspaper office and ask the reporter: "What exactly is your point?"

:eyes:

[Zynx]

8. You read my question literally. My point was "What are you driving at?"

What is your agenda with this post?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

17. When you read the newspaper

do you stop every couple paragraphs to call up the newspaper and accuse the reporter of having an agenda?

[Zynx]

20. I do question their motives at times.

I question yours particularly when you have the line "Sound familiar?".

[Feanorcurufinwe]

23. So perhaps

you don't call up the newspaper because you already understood the points and recognized the agendas when you first read them?

Perhaps?

lol

[Zynx]

24. Will you stop dodging my question already?

I know you find this all very cute and probably think you are very clever, but I'm not sure very many feel the same way. Just get to the point and don't play these childish games.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

25. I'll stick to expressing my ideas in the manner I choose.

If you don't like it, too bad.

:hi:

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[Feanorcurufinwe]

27. So are you promising

that if I continue to annoy you, you will put me on ignore, and I will be deprived of the gift of your dazzling rhetoric?

OH NO!

[Zynx]

31. Now you're using sarcasm to make fun of me. How tactful is that?

And you are still avoiding the question. If you would just say you're not comfortable answering it, that's okay with me.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

32. So, your threat was empty?

You don't really intend to put me on ignore?

I guess I can't win 'em all.

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[Feanorcurufinwe]

35. How did you know it was sarcasm if I was on ignore?

:shrug:

[Zynx]

36. I was logged off and could read you like that.

I'm not stupid you know.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

37. So since I used sarcasm, which you hate, you took me off ignore

but if I hadn't used it, you would have left me on ignore?

And between 08:52 Eastern time and 09:16 Eastern time, you put me on ignore, logged off, came back into this thread to read my comment, logged back in, took me off ignore, and posted a comment in response to mine?




OK, I get it. lol

[Zynx]

38. Yes. Exactly.

I don't let people get away with cute little vicious remarks like that.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

39. Well actually

I did 'get away with it' didn't I? :wow:

[Zynx]

41. I am getting sick of this. Let's call it a night.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

42. It's a night. Talk to you tomorrow.

:hi:

[Zynx]

43. Okay.

No hard feelings. :)

[Feanorcurufinwe]

44. I thought you were leaving?

First you claimed you were gonna put me on ignore. Then you claimed you were done with this flame war. What's next, a claim that Mongolia has weapons of mass destruction?

[Zynx]

48. I might just claim that if you prompt me to.

;)

[Feanorcurufinwe]

49. I just did.

[RummyTheDummy]

14. Actually that's not a bad idea....

Maybe not the call, but questioning reporting is a pretty good idea. It's actually something that's pretty basic in journalism schools. Getting a point across, things like clarity, are pretty important in journalism.

[Zynx]

16. Interesting point, but he missed my statement anyway.

[anti-NAFTA]

10. He's a bit of an embarrassment.

He doesn't really know much about politics or history and is just a comedian. Somehow he's managed to be a spokesman for the left. We need to get rid of jokers like Michael Moore and Franken as our spokespeople because it makes us look flippant and not serious. I'm sick of people idealizing Franken when Chomsky doesn't make jack shit.

[Slice]

15. He doesn't know much about politics?

What are you talking about? Franken is immensely superior to Chomsky, because Chomsky is just a libertarian socialist, and leaning towards communist.

[anti-NAFTA]

28. Haha, nice try.

Chomsky is a socialist (the libertarian part just means he's for civil liberties and not a Soviet-type communist). So what? Franken is a funny guy who puts his foot in his mouth too often.

[Slice]

30. I know what a libertarian socialist is,

and I, too, think the name is funny. Those people just want to make their arguments seem more valid, so that's why they call themselves libertarians.

[AP]

18. I agree with part of this sentiment. There are plenty of incredible voices

for the left, but the media intentionally passes over them and choses to pretend that Babs Streisand, Franken and that other comedienne represent liberal opinion.

I don't blame the celebrities -- they're entitled to voice their opinion. I blame the networks and Bill O'Rielly, for e.g., for pretending that the entertainers are the voice leading the left.

[anti-NAFTA]

29. Right on. I thought I was the only one

that gets embarrassed when the media makes it look like the left is some sort of Hollywood fad like Buddhism and yoga.

[tishaLA]

34. What do you mean Chomsky

"doesn't make jack shit"? Compared to whom or what?

[anti-NAFTA]

40. He's not a millionaire.

His books don't sell as well as Franken because they're not loaded with invective and jokes for kids who get their news from the Daily Show.

[tishaLA]

52. How much do you think a superstar Prof. at MIT is paid?

I'll give you a hint: LOTS of money

[DaisyUCSB]

47. Chomsky is unlistenable. Uninterviewable. And he has zero personality

Yeah, he'd be a much better spokesman for "the left". Franken represents the democratic mainstream, and Chomsky represents the few thousand pretentious college kids who pretend they understand what he's talking about more than half the time.

[RafterMan]

12. retracted

On evidence from 13, below.

I knew Al knew better.

[Leilani]

13. I believe he was talking about this in terms of his visit

to entertain the troops.

I just watched the show, & that's what I thought about his comments.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

22. Well, when the transcript is available, I'll post it here in the thread

[dsc]

45. To his credit

and unlike certain politicians that are still running for our nomination, Franken was honest about supporting the war.

[DaisyUCSB]

46. That's probably because Franken is an open-minded, intelligent person

and he doesn't just read the hard-left news about foriegn policy. I think that the UN/NATO removing Saddam or getting him to exile himself would have been worlds superior to leaving him in power.

[corporatewhore]

51. al franken also devoted a whole chapter to why clinton was the greatest

prez in the 20th cent (even over fdr) I already knew al wasnt a liberal