Spitzer wavers on licenses for illegals....will Hillary Clinton follow?

[TeamJordan23]

My guess is yes.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/10/immigrant.licenses.ap/index.html

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. Will Edwards follow?

[w4rma]

2. Good. (nt)

[maddiejoan]

3. Hillary has already stated --

quite CLEARLY (despite what is being said), that she doesn't think Spitzer's position on driver's licenses is the best solution but she understands and supports Spitzer's reasonings.

She feels the issue is one that is being patched over by Governors because of a Federal failing.

I imagine if Spitzer changes his position, as a Senator, she will also support her State's Governor, and as President she would find a better solution to the immigration problem than the current adminstration's.

Honest to peaches --what the fuck is so hard to understand about what she has said?

[TeamJordan23]

5. Tough to know what she says when she takes both sides on nearly every issue. nm

[maddiejoan]

9. Must be tough to be an adult--

-- when you think everything has a simple answer.

[TeamJordan23]

13. I am an adult to know when someone takes sides just for political reasons or b/c.

what their pollster tells them.

[maddiejoan]

16. you make me laugh.

I'm not even a Hillary supporter.

I'm just smart enough to smell bullshit.

Methinks you are projecting.

[PATRICK]

12. She said it right then

Now if only she could get it stated that way on the corporate media. edwards already said no and then struggled trying to say the same thing succinctly, which i take it Hillary didn't accomplish enough either.

The sellout is federal. The political hoopla is the useless sparring over security and hate and job fear that the GOP can game while being 100% responsible for profiting off cheap labor. Governors getting together on this can make the same point- and somehow not be listened to either.

Make no mistake, it is very likely all the Dem candidates are together on this being a Federal problem and workable at that level without the divisive, useless hate rhetoric that does nothing but distract from the profiteers and reward the GOP.

Whenever you use a GOP or media talking point to wedge a rival your candidate will suffer too. THAT is the GOP plan, all suckers may apply.

I applaud Hillary on the right answer, but hope all Democrats, even Governors, will get it a little more together in this hostile environment. I like Spitzer very much too and only am upset how some of his aggressive steps are hurting his reform momentum. Someone needs to send everybody Cliff Notes on Politics 101.

[conservdem]

14. She said the idea "makes a lot of sense."

This will be a HUGE issue and her statement reflects her soft stance on immigration. Biden is against licenses for illegal aliens and I am supporting him. The focus for now should be on fixing the borders and stopping the number of illegal aliens from growing.

[Midwestern Democrat]

18. I find this whole issue troubling as well.

Everyone who argues in favor of this proposal gives all sorts of "common sense" rationales for it - that illegal aliens are driving anyway so they might as well be licensed and insured - but they neglect one very important fact: according to this nation's laws, the illegal aliens aren't supposed to be in this country in the first place, so it is a little troubling when state government agencies are de facto legitimizing their presence here by granting them official government documentation. Basically, it is blatantly obvious that the "substance" of the nation's immigration laws is being wholesale unenforced - proposals like Spitzer's go one step further - they blatantly dismiss the "form" of the nation's immigration laws as well.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. I Suspect He Did It To Help Hill And The Dems By Taking The Issue Off The Table.

DSB

[cuke]

6. More media bullshit for DUers to swallow without question

"I don't think there's ever been an executive, a president, a governor who hasn't put out ideas that at the end of the day there isn't support, and so things don't work out," Spitzer told reporters after meeting with Hispanic lawmakers in San Juan, Puerto Rico. "But as of now, sure, I think this is the right idea from a security perspective. We'll wait and see."


All he said is that he doesn't know if he can actually get this passed because there is a lot of opposition to it. He continues to argue that it is "the right idea"

And when the media says "Spitzer Wavers" and instead of reading the article critically, it gets posted on DU in order to score partisan points against a dem candidate

[Lucinda]

17. It's reached the point where I am surprised when the OP 's

actually match what's in the linked articles. How sad is that? :)

[DURHAM D]

7. Clinton is not the candidate with a problem.

She indicated she supports the various state Governors in the difficult task of identification. No reason for her to change her mind on that - its not like the problem has gone away in the past week.

Obama may have a problem - he wants undocumented drivers to get a DL.

Edwards really has a problem - he was for the DL in '04 and for it in the recent debate (I think) cause I could not really figure out what he was saying. Then he interviewed with George S. and took some really bizarre position that indicated he has no understanding of the constitution as regards federal vs. state matters. Then he started campaigning back in Iowa this past week and he is now against issuing DL's to drivers. In between 2004 and now Edwards has held a total of five positions on this issue that I could count.

[Warpy]

8. Oh, for crying in the beer! NM has given licenses to illegals

for ages. It means they need to pass a test on our road laws and it means they can be tracked to make sure they keep basic liability insurance. It's a good deal for the rest of us on the road.

This is a whole bunch of nothing. Illegals who can't get legal licenses get fake ones, don't bother learning the laws, and never bother with insurance.

The one thing missing from their licenses is a social security number. The rest of us have it. That way, those licenses can't be used to do things like vote. They can be used as ID to cash paychecks, but that's about it.

[DURHAM D]

10. A perfect solution -

People in the fly over (red) states understand/support this practical solution. They know, for one thing, it is related to car insurance rates.

[tularetom]

11. Why SHOULDN"T everyone want licenses for illegals

A license is not a privelege for god's sakes. It carries an obligation to follow the law and is an impediment to complete freedom to drive as fast, as drunk or as stupidly as one wants to. It usually means you have to get insurance which protects those who share the road with you. Are people who oppose licensing illegals naive enough to think that they will just stop driving? Are they aware that they are endangering themselves and their families by allowing these unlicensed uninsured drivers on the road?

I have to get a license to drive a car. Why should illegals be able to drive without one?

[democratsin08]

15. good riddance to illegals

they depress wages for workers here