Obama sucks up to rwers, going on FoxNews&Christian Broadcasting Network complaining about hippies

[rinsd]

Now Obama & Clinton are talkin' about her generation

By: Mark Memmott and Jill Lawrence

This comment by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama yesterday on Fox News Channel's Studio B with Shepard Smith. ...

"I think there's no doubt we represent the kind of change that Sen. Clinton can't deliver on and part of it is generational. Senator Clinton and others, they've been fighting since the '60s, and it makes it very difficult for them to bring the country together to get things done."

<snip Clinton campaign response>

Also yesterday, Obama told Christian Broadcasting Network's David Brody that Clinton isn't an effective uniter because she "is part of the fierce political battles that we had in the '90s and that some of that carries over to today." David has video of Obama saying that here.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/11/now-obama-clint.html

I just realized the audience he was trying to reach.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

1. Gotcha... People who have fought for liberal values are the problem

As his broad strategy comes into focus, it's shocking.

We need to compromise on every hard-fought sliver of progress we've gained in the last forty years, lest we alienate bigots, proto-fascists, theocrats... you know, real Americans.

This has become a parody. No wonder Andrew Sullivan loves him!

[aquart]

2. No. He's entitled to reach for any vote he thinks he can get.

We don't have to vote for him. And we don't have to call him names.

[rinsd]

3. I removed the name calling.

[mtnsnake]

4. I'm an Obama fan & I wish to fuck he wouldn't suck up to the enemy.

He just doesn't have to do that and he's going to end up coming off as insincere if he continues it.

[CyberPieHole]

8. "...he's going to end up coming off as insincere..."

To quote Madeline Ashton (Meryl Streep) in Death Becomes Her: NOW A WARNING???!!!:eyes:


Obama has come off as less than sincere since the McClurkin fiasco.

[aquart]

15. Sometimes the only way to learn is the hard way.

This is just part of what we meant when we said, "green."

I think this man has HUGE potential, but for the future, when we'll need him even more. If he's defeated, how he takes it will make or break him. Bill Clinton had his ass handed to him in Arkansas, came back, won, and stayed for years. Never forget how huge the ego has to be to endure this process, how monumental the ambition. If he's losing his way, it's because this path is more alien than any he's walked before, with more detours, more crossroads, more boulders and roadkill. To expect him to get it right the first time...How many times have the other guys done it? Yet he's still one of the FRONTRUNNERS.

[polichick]

5. What an asshole!

So now we're guilty of fighting for civil rights, the environment, peace, etc. AND fighting against the vast right-wing conspiracy??

You bet Obama ~ and we're not going to stop fighting those battles until we've won. You should be thanking your elder boomers for paving the way for YOU to be able to run for president.

[angstlessk]

6. I had great hopes for him in the beginning of his campagn..but he has

thrown away constituent after constituent...in the fucking primaries!!!

[DURHAM D]

10. Constituent is a nice way of saying -

He is throwing away people, whole groups of people.

[Joe the Revelator]

7. A very wise man once said:

Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans

[polichick]

12. First of all, he's NOT a new generation, and second...

There's nothing wise about Obama trashing the very people who made it possible for a black man to run for president.

[rinsd]

14. That wise man said so after a close acrimonious general election at his inauguration.

Obama is making nice with the right wing noise machine taking shots at some of their favorite targets, Hillary and cultural warriors from the left.

[BootinUp]

26. The comparison is hilarious.

You don't get to make inauguration speeches during the primary.

[surfermaw]

43. Wonder who is getting money from the republicans,

Think

[PoiBoy]

9. I guess he doesn't read DU...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2100224

<snip>
I'm talking about, say, energy-efficient light bulbs. I'm looking at organic foods going mainstream. I mean chemical-free cleaning products widely available at Target and I'm talking saving the whales and protecting the dolphins and I mean yoga studios flourishing in every small town, giant boxes of organic cereal at Costco and non-phthalates dildos at Good Vibes and the Toyota Prius becoming the nation's oddest status symbol. You know, good things.

Look around: we have entire industries devoted to recycled paper, a new generation of cheap solar-power technology and an Oscar for "An Inconvenient Truth" and even the soulless corporate monsters over at famously heartless joints like Wal-Mart are now claiming that they really, really care about saving the environment because, well, "it's the right thing to do" (read: It's purely economic and all about their bottom line because if they don't start caring they'll soon be totally screwed on manufacturing and shipping costs at/from all their brutal Chinese sweatshops).

There is but one conclusion you can draw from the astonishing (albeit fitful, bittersweet) pro-environment sea change now happening in the culture and (reluctantly, nervously) in the halls of power in D.C., one thing we must all acknowledge in our wary, jaded, globally warmed universe: The hippies had it right all along. Oh yes they did.
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[NMMNG]

11. "I just realized the audience he was trying to reach."

Young RW homophobes?

[jefferson_dem]

13. Balderdash. Nowhere does he refer to hippies?

People also scoffed at Bill in 1992 when he offered a new generation of leadership.

You may prefer to look backwards with nostalgia. I'll take forward progress.

[rinsd]

16. What fighters from the 60's generation do you think he is talking about?

He's talking about the cultural warriors on the left.

He knows the audience he is speaking to and is throwing them red meat.

[maddiejoan]

24. Dude

your name is jefferson_dem. Hard to be more old school than that.

[jefferson_dem]

30. Dudette... Don't get me wrong.

One of those two words happens to be my name. I also happen to admire the principles of TJ.

I'm also a huge 60s throwback of sorts. Mostly, that applies to music and culture. My avatar might be a clue. If you only knew... :bounce:

Cheers!

[HuckleB]

48. Exactly. This is just anti-Obama spin.

In other words, it's hogwash.

[Name removed]

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[goodgd_yall]

17. "Difficult for them to bring the country together"

I guess because there was and is so much resistance to the change fought for, Obama thinks the changemakers are the problem.

There's been no generation since that has brought about as much change and challenge to the status quo since the movers and shakers of the 60s and 70s. And we've had plenty of Republican administrations and congresses that have been tearing down the immense progress that was made. I'm sorry to hear Obama's weird and skewed assessment of his elders.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

18. Just stop rocking the boat and the right wing nuts will be nice...

these 60s types are too confrontational to be uniters

Does Obama own a TV, or get a newspaper? I haven't noticed that being overly confrontational is the Democrats' big problem.

[goodgd_yall]

22. For all the talk of being the uniter

Obama sure has a talent for alienating people---so far, 60s activists and the LGBT community.

[NMMNG]

27. Not unless your name is Dennis Kucinich

:shrug:

[BootinUp]

19. I really think Obama stepped in it there. n/t

[jefferson_dem]

21. Geee...if only he didn't say that new, fresh leadership would be good...

You might have actually voted for him... LOL! Whatever.

[BootinUp]

25. No, I already had made up my mind, I was thinking of people

who hadn't yet.

[Union Thug]

20. Sorry, Obama. You lost my consideration.

[Schema Thing]

23. Wow, that second example is even more sucky than the first.

Apparently, his plan is to bring in a few attention paying members of the sleaziest constituencies, and hope that people will say "wow, what a uniter, he's even getting republicans to cross the line for him", and it will all snowball. I think there is a place called hell waiting for that particular snowball.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

44. Bashing Democratic ideals is gang-busters in the primaries

[maximusveritas]

28. Huh? The Clintons were hippies? In the 90s? I think you're mistranslating him again

Nowhere does Obama mention hippies. Certainly not in that interview to the CBN, unless you think he's calling the Clintons hippies. The other quote is open to interpretation, but again, I don't think Hillary is carrying on the fight of the hippies, so I don't think your interpretation makes much sense.

[rinsd]

31. "part of it is generational. Senator Clinton and others, they've been fighting since the '60s"

[maximusveritas]

33. Exactly. So he's talking about Senator Clinton. Are you calling her a hippy?

Because otherwise, your post makes no sense

[rinsd]

34. He's talking about the culture warriors of the left who carried that fight into the 90's & today.

I used the word hippies as shorthand because the rw makes no distinction between a hippy and those who fought the culture wars and Obama was appealing directly to them.

[jefferson_dem]

32. Of course, he comes nowhere close to mentioning hippies or anything of the sort.

This OP is silly.

Obama is promoting a new generation of positive political leadership. I'm having trouble fathoming how that's supposed to be a bad thing.

[madrchsod]

41. it`s one hell of a lot better than dragging up the past

someone has schooled him well on the politics since the 60`s

[RadioLeft]

53. Obviously...

Obviously you are not GLBT nor are you a 60's civil rights worker.

[Canuckistanian]

29. Don't care. He lost me at McKlurkin

Not specifically for the gay issue but rather his JUDGEMENT after having been warned.

[calteacherguy]

35. Obama is correct. I'm glad he's saying it. nt

[ronnykmarshall]

36. and how is he correct?

[calteacherguy]

38. What he said as posted in the OP is correct. nt

[ronnykmarshall]

40. O I C

[jefferson_dem]

37. Why do you hate seniors and hippies?

:sarcasm:

[RadioLeft]

50. Some of my handiwork

Donnie McClurkin on Halloween



http://www.radioleft.com

[madrchsod]

39. i agree,i was one of those radical anti war sds hippies and

i really could`t find any fault in what he said. i think the "byrds" said it best-"i was so much older then, i`m younger than that now"

[democratsin08]

42. fox news loves obama

i wonder why?

[Imagevision]

45. Nah! when I started out Obama was the best and today he is still the best for

C-H-A-N-G-E...

[Texas_Kat]

46. Yeah, "change", But the question is "change into what?"

I'm not particularly interested in changing into a Doorstop Democrat. We had lots of those in the 80s. We're still digging out from what Reagan did to the country.

Obama obviously doesn't understand what the 60s were about and worse, doesn't care. I've suddenly remembered that he glomed onto Lieberman as a mentor when he started in the Senate.

[jillan]

47. Just when I started warming up to Obama . . .

Seriously - what was he thinking?

[RadioLeft]

51. Go Joe Go

Biden for President!!!

[RadioLeft]

49. Obama should crawl back under the rock he crawled out from under

I started out thinking I would support Obama and ended up with Joe Biden. Last time, I supported Al Sharpton.

Unfortunately, the more I see of Obama, the more he pisses me off.

He threw gays and lesbians under the bus for no reason since he could have gotten black evangelical votes without doing it. Apparently, Obama thinks evangelical blacks are bigots or wouldn't have pandered to bigotry to gain their votes. What does that say about his optimism?

Now, he's attacking the very people who worked for his civil rights.

I'm wondering when he's going to attack left-handed people. Then, I'll be an Obama three-time loser.

As shocking as this would sound to people who know me, if Obama gets the nomination, I won't vote for president. I can't vote for a Republican, I won't waste my vote on a green or independent. I'll cut my hands off before I'll vote for Obama. (Since the Democrats have a snowball's chance in Hell of winning Texas in November, I can afford this luxury. I guess this is one of the few perks of living in a red state!)

As you can see from the amount of blogging I've been doing on the A'hole, he has struck a never with me.

http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2007/11/9/3345040.html

http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2007/11/3/3332256.html

http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2007/11/2/3330100.html

http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2007/11/1/3326585.html

http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2007/11/1/3326579.html

http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2007/11/1/3326488.html

http://blog.radioleft.com/blog/_archives/2007/10/30/3322526.html

[killbotfactory]

54. the horror

:eyes:

If it weren't for all the histrionics, I wouldn't have known he said anything offensive.

[CyberPieHole]

55. Obama does not fail to dissapoint...

I wonder why that is?:shrug: