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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:54 AM
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Obama Supporters Worked To Keep Colbert Off Ballot - Can't Say That I Blame Them
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Hmm, perhaps Barack Obama's campaign isn't above doing a few underhanded tricks. CNN reports that key Obama supporters in South Carolina lobbied the state Democratic Executive Council to keep the one true American in the race, Stephen T. Colbert, off the ballot.

"The Obama people, they just didn't want him at all," said one anonymous council member, who claimed to have been lobbied by former state Superintendent of Education Inez Tenenbaum, who has endorsed Obama.

"I think lobbying was too strong a word," Tenenbaum told CNN. "I called them to see what they were thinking, and if they had made up their mind. I am a volunteer in that campaign, and so I am not a staffer. And I thought it could have taken votes away from a lot of people."

Had Colbert made it to the ballot, he may have attracted the votes of college students who would otherwise have gone for Obama.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/obama_supporters_...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:56 AM
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1. He had no business being on the ballot. We've a slate of good, serious candidates. nt
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:57 AM
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3. Who are you to decide who should or should not be on the ballot?
He polls higher than Kucinich, gravel, and Dodd, for christs sake.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:59 AM
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4. The South Carolina Democrats decided, and correctly so, n/t
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 10:00 AM by geek tragedy
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:00 AM
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5. The Obama campaign decided
Is this the sort of undemocratic behaviour we should expect from Obama?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:02 AM
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6. Either you're joking or on crack. n/t
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:03 AM
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7. What would I be joking about?
The Obama campaign fought to have a political opponent removed from the ballot. It's simple.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:04 AM
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9. A joke candidate who was running to boost his own
ratings, not to get elected President.

By the way . . .

"The Columbia-based lawyer who represented Colbert in his bid to be placed on the ballot, Dwight Drake, is a supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton. Drake has told CNN in the past he was initially contacted directly by Colbert's surrogates to assist in the comedians bid."

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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:07 AM
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14. He is a satirist, you know
I would guess he was running to boost his ratings AND make a point about the state of politics.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:21 AM
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21. That's unfair.
You know that the Obama campaign didn't decide.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:56 AM
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2. Joke candidates don't belong on the ballot, period. n//t
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:05 AM
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11. So DK should be off?
ba-da-bing.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:16 AM
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19. Zing!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:22 AM
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22. That goes for joke DUers as well.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:51 AM
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26. Oh, Snap! n/t
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:04 AM
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8. I don't blame them either. There could be Colbert, the Ron Paul fanatics, maybe Nader.
I'm hoping for a serious election in '08.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:04 AM
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10. It's about time democracy was taken seriously
If only a few thousand people voted for a joke candidate, it could tip an election.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:06 AM
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12. I hope you realize the rich, rich irony of your post
If a few thousand people want to vote for someone, shouldn't they be allowed to in a democracy?

I am guessing there will be a huge write in campaign. Or is that not allowed in SC?
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:19 AM
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16. Then they can petition to put him on the ballot
...or write him in, yes.

Colbert is trying to get ratings for his show, and sales for his book. He was and is not interested in governing. The only people who should be on the ballot are those who are actually seeking office.

Put the communist on the ballot. The socialist. The Nazi. The Libertarian. The MOR and wingnuts, any of the above or others, IF their motive is to govern.

People can (and do) write in the joke candidates if they choose. Pogo and Snoopy have done fairly well as write-ins.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:16 AM
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18. Motive isn't required in a democracy, you know.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:33 AM
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23. Check Post 17
..it is an implicit 'motive check'. If you really want to govern, you'll do the work.

Adding a candidate isn't as simple as many folks think. It takes many hours of hard work for elections workers, costs quite a bit, and adds complexity to the process, increasing the odds of error. (I know that most folks haven't worked behind the scenes on an election, so this is not widely known.)

Comedians (and Colbert is damned good one) can pay for their own punchlines, not saddle the taxpayers with them.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:07 AM
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13. Congrats to the Obama campaign!
keeping someone off the ballot is completely legitimate. It's just as legitimate as winning an election. It's all part of the campaign's strategy. And, the strategy worked. Congrats!

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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:10 AM
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15. Colbert reminds me so much of this guy


Of course, I'm old.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:25 AM
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17. PLEASE NOTE this South Carolina party rule, from CNN -- "national viability" required.
"According to state party rules, for a candidate to be placed on the ballot, he or she must demonstrate national viability as well as spend time campaigning in the state."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/06/obama-s... /
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:20 AM
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20. Makes sense
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 11:20 AM by Bleachers7
I suggested that Colbert would cause Obama problems because they attract the same voter base (young).

BTW, I disagree that party bosses should get to pick who is a serious candidate and who isn't.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:42 AM
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24. No mention of Dwight Drake?
Drake supports Clinton and fought to get Colbert on the ballot.
He even paid Colbert's filing fees!

Underhanded tricks indeed.


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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:45 AM
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25. he dropped his bid according to the ap.
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