What I like/dislike about each candidate:

[Clintonista2]

Hillary Clinton(My candidate)

Like: I agree with her on most issues. She can run circles around her opponents. She strikes fear into the heart of the RW.
Dislike: Her position on gay marriage. Her baggage.


Barack Obama

Like: Very quick thinking, able to captivate and charm audiences.
Dislike: His position on gay marriage. He talks big, but can rarely back that talk up with actions.

John Edwards

Like: His current stance on the issues. Has some really good ideas, and good plans to back those ideas up.
Dislike: His pre-2007 stance on the issues. Apologizes for every vote at the slightest nudge.

Bill Richardson

Like: One of the more experienced candidates. Doesn't talk tough without the experience to back it up.
Dislike: Reacts poorly under pressure.

Dennis Kucinich

Like: His stance on the issues
Dislike: He can promise to do anything, because he knows he won't be elected.

Joe Biden

Like: Would pound any Repug he faced into the ground
Dislike: Comes off as arrogant.

Chris Dodd

Like: One of the most articulate candidates. Can be both polite and agressive at the same time.
Dislike: Doesn't know how to campaign

Mike Gravel

Like: Adds humour to the whole process
Dislike: Comes off as the "crazy shopping cart" person.

[Buzz Clik]

1. This thread is going nowhere. Not enough spewing and spitting.

But I like it!

:headbang: :applause: :loveya:

[Clintonista2]

3. True, but vicious anti-candidate threads have been such a snoozefest lately

[NV Whino]

2. Kucinich

actually has plans to implement his promises. And you always have to have a crazy shopping cart person. Last time we had Sharpton.

[Clintonista2]

4. Kucinich may have the ideas and the plans, but he lacks the means

to implement them. I know how much the word "compromise* is disliked, but it's the reality.

[PurityOfEssence]

5. Besides the China Bill, IWR and Patriot Act, do you know ANYTHING about Edwards' voting record?

Why don't you look it up? Go to Wikipedia, follow the links and read up on those 203 bills he co-sponsored. He's the guy who first introduced legislation in the Senate to protect people from spyware.

There's a reason why Kerry scoffed that he probably couldn't get re-elected in the Senate: that may have very well been the case because of his voting record.

From the very beginning, he's been a staunch ally of labor, the environment, minority rights and other cause celebres of the left. Unlike for someone from a blue state, his fighting against the tax cuts was done at extreme personal political cost.

Russ Feingold called him a "terrific asset" in fighting for and swaying people for campaign finance reform.

Clinton voted for free trade with Chile and Singapore; Biden, Dodd and Edwards all voted against these bills.

Edwards was tireless in his fight to keep the sunset clauses from being stripped out of the Patriot Act, and not only didn't duck responsibility for that vote, brought it up in the '03-'04 primary fight. Only one Senator voted against it, by the way. His take was that the provision to wiretap people rather than phone numbers was a necessary adjustment to the changing world technology. He was also very vocal early on that Ashcroft was abusing the Act.

He was one of the most combative in the Ashcroft confirmation hearings, too.

This constantly repeated distortion that he's only a newfound progressive out of convenience is absolute bullshit and repetition of it is a sign of either ignorance or outright deception.

His early stump speeches in '03 were all about the unfairness of the tax code changes and how Junior was shifting the tax burden from wealth to workers' wages. This populist message has been his thrust from the very beginning. There's a reason why, when Jon Stewart asked Kucinich during the last primary season who he was closest to of the bunch, Kucinich answered "John Edwards".

Lastly, it's endlessly tiresome how people are faulted for admitting mistakes. That's a primitive view of leadership and character more befitting the strutting uber-masculine clucks like George W. Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney. Frankly, it's refreshing to see someone with the sheer power of personal strength to look the world in the eye and admit mistakes without feeling like his manhood and confidence are somehow in question. Sadly, far too few people have this serf-like view of power, and much as people often say they want their leaders to do so, they punish them severely for the act when it happens.

Kindly show me how his actions of everything "pre-2007" are radically different. This is beyond absurd, it's insulting, incorrect, ignorant and the tiresome repetition of other peoples' pissy little taunts.

On edit:

Here's a final parting shot: for all her self-proclaimed (and thus supposedly unassailable) fighting for women's rights, why does the National Family Planning and Reproductive Health association give Biden, Clinton and Dodd a 93% approval, while it gives Edwards, Kucinich and Obama a full 100%?