Rasmussen-Clinton-43% Obama -20% -Edwards 12%

[DemocratSinceBirth]

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Senator Hillary Clinton with just about as much support as all seven of her challengers combined in the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. Clinton earns 43% of the vote and the other seven collectively attract 44%. Twelve percent (12%) are undecided. Individually, Barack Obama attracts 20%, John Edwards is preferred by 12%, Bill Richardson by 5%, Joe Biden by 3%, and no other candidate attracts more than 2% of Likely Democratic Primary Voters (see recent daily numbers).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

If you look at the polls from Wednesday, Tuesday, and Monday she is doing a bit better today ...This poll includes some polling from Tuesday and Wednesday, after the debate was held...

Perhaps I was wrong and all the bashing will help her in her general election match ups...Too soon to tell...

[joeybee12]

1. After her 8 years with Bill, and all the Dem-on-Dem hate she's

getting right now, I just wonder if there'll be anything left to pile on her during the general election. I mean, what else can they say that they haven't already? You're right--it should help her.

[Basileus Basileon]

2. That's part of the reason why I never bought the line that

her negatives would make her unelectable. She's an entirely known quantity--she's been the favorite target of the right wing since '92, and the most-progressive Dems since '00. And all of her scandals have been dredged over so many times that nobody really cares by this point. Are any undecideds going to give a shit about Whitewater in 2008?

Bashing her simply doesn't work. There's nothing left to bash. Obama and Edwards supporters have watched helplessly as their attack campaigns have resulted in nothing but their own negatives rising. The same will happen with the Republicans.

Now, don't get me wrong--I don't support her primary bid, and I don't like many of her policies. I just don't believe she's unelectable in the slightest.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. She Reminds Me Of Nixon*

Nixon was viscerally hated by the left and the far right wing of his own party. Hillary is viscerally hated by the right and the far left wing of her own party. Both candidates were smart enough, tough enough, and persistent enough to achieve their ultimate goal; the presidency...


* I don't think she has Nixon's pathologies but she does have his drive...

[Clintonista2]

4. Ironic side story about Hillary & Nixon

As a young lawyer, Hillary helped to impeach Nixon. Just an FYI :D

[Botany]

5. and before she helped in the Nixon impeachment she was a "Goldwater Girl."

After what Murdoch's Fox News did to Bill how can she smile and pose with him?

[SaveElmer]

6. And Botany...who are you supporting?...nt

[Botany]

14. John Edwards

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. She Was A Goldwater Girl Forty Three Years Ago

Robert Kennedy voted for Ike.. I'll document it if you want...Perhaps we should exhume his body from Arlington National Cemetary and beat him up too...

Hillary gives a punch...Takes a punch...She's my idol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1tXhJniSEc

DSB-

Not one of those Democrats with a "kick me sign" on his ass...

[wyldwolf]

8. Robert Kennedy also worked for McCarthy, Howard Dean was a self described conservative in college...

... Wes Clark voted for Reagan, JFK endorsed a Republican for a House race... the list goes on and on.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. I Never Voted For A Puke

Not even for sheriff!

So I have the purity to say who and who doesn't get a pass...

[cali]

21. Dean was not a self-described conservative during

college. At least I've never heard that before. I have heard him say that he was largely apolitical, but he also says he became a dem when he was young. Just fyi.

[wyldwolf]

22. you're right. It was in HIGH SCHOOL that he called himself a conservative

..just fyi.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I Have Always Been A Dem Since I Shook RFK's Hand At Six Years Old

DSB

[wyldwolf]

24. good. I'm a third generation Democrat

I had a grandmother who was a delegate twice in the 30s.

[Alamom]

25. FWIW, I don't think HRC ever voted for an ( R ) ....

Not in a Presidential Election anyway. I believe she went to the Dem Party before she was 21.

[Botany]

13. But Fox's non stop attacks on Bill were not 43 years ago.

How she can pose w/ Murdoch is beyond me.

[Basileus Basileon]

15. They all know it's just business.

Murdoch isn't an ideologue; he saw an under-served market of insecure knuckledraggers and launched a few media outlets dedicated to soothing them and telling them they're right. You think if he actually believed in family values and all that shit he'd still let Fox run half of what it does? Hillary's been smeared so many times it's undoubtedly lost any emotional impact whatsoever. She doesn't care. He doesn't care.

And there's a camera in front of them, so time to look happy for the photo-op.

[SaveElmer]

16. Of course the truth of the situation means little...

The fact that Murdoch has said on more than one occasion that he was not supporting her for President, and that the fundraiser was held at the request of Fox employees who were Democratic supporters of Hillary...

But why dwell on all that nasty factual stuff!!!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. FOX TV Gaves Us The Most Anti-Familt Sitcom Of All Time

"Married With Children"...

I always think of the paradox when I see movies made by FOX...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. I Am Not As Smart Or As Practical As Hillary

I maintain grudges... Hillary sees Murdoch as a player which he definitely is and chooses to co-opt him....Pehaps our foreign policy should have been based on that... Try to co-opt first then fight, but only if you have to...

And Murdoch is a player...He's contributed to a host of Democrats including John Kerry and Ted Kennedy:

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?key=SF3AX&txtName=murdoch&txtState=NY&txtAll=Y&Order=N

The usual retort is that he has given a lot more money to Hillary... My retort is then those other Democrats sold themselves out much cheaper...

An artifact if you will...Somebody posted a link... I think the president of FOX almost contributes exclusively to Democrats...

I never watch FOX NEWS... The only liberals on FOX are milquetoast ones...I once read that Jake Tapper auditioned for Alan Colmes's job but he slapped around Hannity so badly they decided to go with the milquetoast Alan Colmes...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. I Am Aware Of All That

I just think as politicians they have the same drive...They were both polarizing figures but the strange thing is the most polarizing figure before HRC was Nixon and he won the greatest Pop Vote and E C landslide in the history of the republic because he was persistent:


“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent..."

-Calvin Coolidge

Lousy pres, great quote

[Clintonista2]

17. I know what you were saying, and I agree with you

I just added that little bit extra for people who didnt know.

[ccpup]

9. you're right

and I've been shouting that from the rooftops since she started the race.

The American Public, after what seems like five million years and millions of dollars worth of repug attempts to create one Clinton Scandal du Jour after another, are basically inoculated to the inevitable regurgitation of said "scandals" from the past. In effect, what I think we'll see is one big collective shrug of the shoulders, roll of the eyes and a grumbled "what else is new? is that all you got?"

The repugs, on the other hand -- should they run Rudy especially --, are dealing with a candidate who is Uncharted Territory. And with Rudy there is so, so, soooooooo much THERE there. He's much more than 9/11. The Public's appetite for all things unsavory, spicy and scandalous will be satiated with whatever titillating dirt and slime they dredge up on Rudy, on Mitt, on (fill in the blank here). And Hillary, should she be the Nominee, has the luxury of focusing on the Issues while the repug spends time and resources attempting to regain the Offensive and restore credibility.

There will be people who will never vote for Hillary just as there are people who would never vote for a Democrat period. But the American People have an interesting opportunity -- one I believe they're already taking advantage of when seeing her speak locally or during the debates -- to rediscover Hillary and ask themselves, as is oftentimes the case now, 'why did I hate her again?' and answer that with 'she's not as evil/cold/controlling/bitchy/hard/wooden/shrill/(insert favorite negative adjective here) as I thought she was'.

The repug won't have that luxury -- of redefining himself -- once the dirt and slime hits the fan.

Just my long-winded two cents.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. How Many People Know He Married His Own Sister,Errrrrr, Cousin?

That might help him with folks in the holler but it's a loser everywhere else...

[ccpup]

20. or, with regards to 9/11,

he insisted -- against the pleas of those more knowledgeable than he -- to put the Command Center in one of the World Trade towers. Conveniently, this was also adjacent to a luxurious apartment (paid for by the taxpayers) used in his almost daily trysts with his then mistress - now wife - Judith Nathan.

He also focused exclusively -- some might say obsessively -- on the threat of hurricanes and ignored his Advisers' strong suggestion that al-Qaeda and terrorism should be his main concern. Nope, he said, we have to guard against hurricanes.

The rest is history ... and a remarkable increase in Guiliani's bank account as well as a run at the Presidency!

[BootinUp]

26. Geux Hillary! nt

[Quixote1818]

27. You know how many people watched that debate?

Not very many. Those polls are a meaningless sample of people picking Hillary ONLY because her name is Clinton.