John Edwards getting Good media on MSNBC pre-debate......

[FrenchieCat]

They are saying that he is the one that has attacked Hillary (the media is now on the "Dems" want Hillary to be "attacked" bandwagon--they hitched they horses there just last week) all along....and that Obama has nowhere to go but down, and Edwards will most likely take his place.

Also, Conservative Sun Reporter stated that John Edwards still has a chance.

Soooo, I guess that the MSM ignored Edwards deliberatetly all of these months (keeping him in third and not overexposing him)......and so maybe they have simply kept him below the radar and away from the frey (while Obama and Hillary are supposed to tear each other apart) till he was needed.

I think that the MSM will be pushing Edwards and dogging Obama from this point on till the vote.

Let's see!

(so much manipulation, so little time...brought to you by the MSM)!

[bigdarryl]

1. they are full of shit Obama has 80 million dollars and is second in the Iowa polls what the...

fuck are they talking about. all of a sudden there going full force negative on Obama.

[FrenchieCat]

2. Part of the "Plan"......shall we say?

Like I have been saying over and over again.......the Media is not as transparent as some think. They boosted Obama for months last year, got him in the race literally.....talked nonstop about Hillary and reported little on Edwards.

Now that they've got many Dem Voters resentful of Hillary's Media announced Inevitability....they have decided to deconstruct Obama.....and they will be promoting Edwards from this point on. They won't overly promote him, as to not get Dem voters suspicious....just enough so that he will be the "surprise" winner in Iowa.

They will desconstruct Edwards....but they will wait till the GE.

It will be interesting to watch, but that is how I see it going down.

[goodgd_yall]

3. Perhaps they're just needing something new

The attention on Obama and Clinton is getting stale. All the MSM cares about is keeping people watching their sad-ass coverage.

[FrenchieCat]

4. uh...ye-Ah.......

But I knew this long ago....and so did they.

When one starts inevitability scenarios the summer before the election, you can bet that the only thing the MSM was out there promoting was resentment against Sen. Clinton.

It's gonna work, cause Democrats don't ever see what is there till after it has passed.

[goodgd_yall]

6. It sounds like you think the MSM

is deliberately setting things up to favor Edwards. Why do you think they would do that? Is he going to do them some kind of favor? Would he inevitably lose to the Republican?

[FrenchieCat]

8. Yes I do....because I think that the Clintons have always been the media's meneses.....

since the Clintons beat the media on impeachment.

And yes, I believe that Edwards is being positioned and yes, he will lose to the Republican opponent.

He will be portrayed as an insincere weak candidate who changes his views based on his audience....during the GE. They have plenty of material, and hardly any of it has been used.

Any advantage that Dems have over the Republicans will evaporate.....all the while, Edwards, who has accepted public financing, will not be able to define himself in his own words.

Just watch!

[goodgd_yall]

10. Hmmm

Edwards certainly does have his vulnerabilities and could be an easier target than even Clinton. As some have said, all the negatives of Clinton have already been aired and there isn't much more to add to that and no surprises.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Plus Hillary and Obama have most of the money.......

so they are out.

The money handicap that Edwards has is needed to make the "horserace" between the Dems and GOP "Close".....considering the Issue Handicap that the GOP candidates have.

A couple of trumped up national security threats by the media close to the GE vote with Edwards shown speaking on his support on Iraq, and then shown speaking on his opposition to the war will breed a lack of confidence on how Edwards might really react under a national security threat. They will blow him over like a feather!

Also watch to see what kind of media McCain gets closer to the election.

An Edwards vs. McCain race...with McCain laughting at his own age but pointing out Edwards lack of consistency on any issue....and Edwards is a goner....and we Dems are truly screwed.

[FrenchieCat]

5. Harball Chris Matthews is cracking up inside........

has he leads us to the water that we must drink!

He hates Hillary Clinton.......but is trying to hide it.

He obviously has no great love for Obama either.....as he is reveling in the Obama "Set up" for tonight....in where Obama will be damned if he does, and dammed if he doesn't.

Edwards will be the winner in this one....and is getting a very good but low key build up on just that!

[lyonn]

11. Only watched part of the show, but,

when I tuned in mentally they were talking about how presidential Hillary is and has been for some time now!?

What stands out to me is how critical the media gets when talking about Dems and talks the cosmetic stuff when it comes to the repubs, never real issues.

[FrenchieCat]

15. Yes...of course......

Because at the end of the day, only the Republicans will continue to allow the media to run absolutely wild without regulations and low corporate taxes for the parent of these media conglomorate giants.

The meme that Hillary is unelectable is not real...but it will be the meme that sticks by the time we get to Iowa. That's what the media wants, which is why they coronated Hillary early. They banked on the resentement from voters. They read the Dem Blogs. They know exactly what they are doing.

[lyonn]

20. With Hillary getting all the media attention with Obama thrown in

the masses are going to be totally confused. They go from bashing to hyping the Dems in a seriously mean manner. They intend to do them all in as far as I can see. Biden, who I support, barely gets mentioned. This was true during the debate this evening.

The problem is the voting public end up thinking there is no difference between the parties - once again. ugh - Any one of our candidates get my vote but what about the people that only hear sound bites?

[cuke]

7. I'm wondering if Edwards is going to let Obama start the attacking?

It would be the smart thing to do, IMO. Obama is under pressure to show some fire. He can sit back and let Obama draw the heat while pointing out his own positions when his turn comes around.

[FrenchieCat]

9. We will see.......Personally, I think that Edwards will pile on, because

at the end of the day.....Edwards understands that the one who publicly gives Hillary a black eye will be the Dem Hero......and he certainly believes that he has earned that mantle.

Edwards' not one not to take the advantage of an opportunity if it's is just sitting there.

[Cameron27]

14. One of them, Chuck Todd maybe, said Obama

should try to take out Edwards tonight, which is what I've been saying for the past few months.

[FrenchieCat]

16. Won't happen.....cause the Obama campaign is tone deaf.......

they actually believe that Edwards has no chance.

I was talking to several Obama organizers...and they basically wrote Edwards off.

I attempted to tell them that they were wrong.....and they had no retort.

I told them that if the media truly wanted Hillary as the nominee, they would not have slapped the "Inevitable" label on her this early.

[Cameron27]

17. Yeah they're wrong.

There can't be more than one 'anti-Hillary' candidate, and that's exactly what Obama started out as, much to Edwards' dismay.

[BootinUp]

13. He just got hammered

by the Philadelphia Inquirer guest.

The MSM is unpredictable Frenchie, there is no grand plan. They look for the juicy story, if there isn't one, they try to make one.

[FrenchieCat]

18. I disagree with you Jim. I think that they are always a few steps ahead of us....

Hence, Bush has been in the WH 7 years longer than he should have been, while Gore was ridiculed, and Clinton was almost thrown out of rightfully won office...and we have been fighting this war that should have never been started far too long.

I wish I believed the fact that the media has no agenda besides a good story....and if most of the media wasn't owned by 5 conglamorate mega corporation, I might almost see it your way.....

In reference to the Philly guy.....you will see less and less of those who speak about Edwards this way until after the primaries.

[BootinUp]

19. Maybe the best way to say it

is I don't think it can be boiled down to a simple explanation. Each of the times we watch something outrageous on the tube, there are different factors at play. Is one of those factors that they like their tax cuts? Yes. Is one of them that they like sex scandals for the ratings? yes. Is one that they like close races, yes. Is one that they are afraid of backlash for criticizing Chimpy too much, yes.


... please don't stop, I will always enjoy reading your opinions and research. :)

[lyonn]

21. I too enjoy Frenchies post

Back when there was the groupies for Wes Clark. I see now Frenchie and I have chosen different candidates, darn. As you say tho, her posts are thought provoking. Not hateful.