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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:38 AM
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Why is Moveon.org better than DU?
We're just as good as them. Our website is better I think. We have awesome stuff like Top 10 Idiots (R), Nance Greggs' rants, Crisis Papers, and so on. We have some great contributors! We're HARD CORE! Why don't I see DU in the papers? Why doesn't Bill O'Biley bitch about us? Daily KOS doesn't excite me like DU. Is it that we don't have as much money? I contributed a small amount, but it was as much as I could. I'll give more but golly darn it, we should make HEADLINES!
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:39 AM
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1. Heck yeah!!!!
Props for DU!!!
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:40 AM
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2. I've never understood that, either.
I was talking to a liberal acquaintance awhile back and mentioned that I go to the Democratic Underground first thing in the morning. He said "the what"? I just don't get it. Of course, we don't get the press, either.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:45 AM
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3. Why is your toaster better than your coffee pot?
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 08:48 AM by sheeptramp
If expect your toaster to make your morning cup,you'll have a disapointing breakfast.

I can't get along withtout either.

Also I donate to BOTH DU and Moveon
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:50 AM
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5. I can live w/o toast...but my coffee pot is my reason to get up
in the morning...:D

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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:48 AM
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4. Two totally different groups, that do not compete against each other. DU is great. period. so
is Moveon.org
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:52 AM
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6. They are for two completely different purposes.
Now, compare DU with Kos or MyDD, and you'd have a pertinent answer.

Personally, I prefer DU for the ease of posting here. I can't, for the life of me, despite the tutorial, figure out how to post diaries at Kos. I just can't. And, MyDD is WAY too "moderate" for me most of the time.

TC


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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:54 AM
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9. What are the different purposes?
Just askin cuz I really don't know.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:00 AM
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14. DU is a place to talk among ourselves
Moveon is a place to talk to the rest of the nation.


DU is for talk.
Moveon is for action.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:03 AM
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16. well said. thanks. I am still figuring this out.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:03 AM
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17. I see MoveOn as a fundraising, activism site, and while this site has those components from time
to time, it is also a place to vent among those who are supposed to be your peers. Most days DU serves that purpose. But, DU does not issue announcements to the media, or sponsor commercials, or endorse candidates. MoveOn does.

TC

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:09 PM
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20. I see MoveOn as present and future. Activism driven.
I see DU as past, present, and future. Sleuthing and 'connecting the dots' driven.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:52 AM
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7. I forgot to mention, I really miss Bob Boudelang
He's what got me hooked on DU. And he's apparently gone. Where's our hatemailbag been? I miss that a lot.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:37 PM
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25. Bob Boudelang creator got tombstoned. He started to act some like his fictional
Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 01:37 PM by Hissyspit
character. Which may seem unbelievable, but we've had that from a number of posters here.

hatemailbag seems to be very light over the past couple of years, according to earlg.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:53 AM
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8. It's not better, it's just different.
It was founded specifically to be an activist presence. DU is more of a place to hang out and get to know like-minded people, although some people here do spearhead some activist action. It takes a very hardy soul to steer this magnificent herd of cats.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:55 AM
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10. They fear us!
There are members of the State Central Committee and Iowa Democratic Party that lurk over in the Iowa Forum. I've actually had them call me after I've posted items. But they never post and in public pretend that DU doesn't exist. There are a small group of us that post and are active politically - why does a small group scare our state party?

Because we're THAT damn good! :evilgrin:
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:57 AM
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11. Not better at all
But this is Democratic UNDERGROUND, which, one hopes, is the stealth arm of the progressive movement - below the radar, as it were. Somehow, it wouldn't be appropriate for DU to advertise in newspapers or make screaming headlines. Or am I misunderstanding our purpose? I've never heard Bill O'Biley speak, but I'd rather he wouldn't profane the good name of Democratic Underground by uttering it. If we do our job properly, the morning after the next election, the Repukes will be asking, "What the hell just happened?" :hi:
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:00 AM
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13. I really like that answer
That makes much sense. Thanks. We're like covert ops, I love it. ;-)
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:58 AM
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12. Just asking that question is the problem...
because the two are not the same and they don't have the same function.

A major problem we have on our side is that too often we get too hung up on individual organizations and don't always work together for the common goal.

If, that is, we can agree on what the common goal is.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:02 AM
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15. I like DU because it's kept real
There's no one single overriding point of view. If you disagree, you battle it out, with source backup, or STFU. Not too much puffery. No childish troll ratings bullshit. I think the DU admin allows for a pretty rollicking town hall meeting here, because for the most part, they leave us to fend for ourselves in figuring out democracy. I don't care about the media coverage, really, this is about us, not about netroots star power.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:06 AM
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18. I hear you and I see your point.
But with all that goes on here I was wondering why the enemies don't notice much. I'm glad they don't. I wonder if there is conservative website like ours that's just as good (I highly doubt it) that we haven't noticed.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:33 PM
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23. Oh trust me...they notice. n/t
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:53 AM
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19. Welcome to DU!
I like your style - will probably be seeing a lot of you on the GP!

:hi:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:13 PM
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21. MOVE ON Is An Interest Group
Tell Skinner to collect millions and run full page ads in the NYT and commercials on cable tv and we'll get noticed too...
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:24 PM
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22. None of these creeps want more EYES wandering this way. .
They know what WE know... When someone finds us, it's as if they've come in from the wilderness. DU is where America went...
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:36 PM
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24. Wrong-wing pundits should be afraid to mention us
on the air because it's free advertising. That's how I found DU. I think I was the Limp one bitching about DU 2 years ago so I looked and I was HOOKED. It's worse than a porn site to a pervert. God love you DU.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 01:46 PM
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26. I suspect the 10s know we're here - in a big way
Perhaps they think by ignoring us they will diminish our importance. We aren't even on the Kos permanent Blogroll.

But, as for Moveon., I agree with other posters - we aren't in that site's category.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:26 PM
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27. To me, its no contest...
Moveon and Kos can have the headlines, but I'll keep my DU. I think our site is informative, entertaining and valuable. We have a tremendous diversity of opinion that I don't believe you get on other sites, when we see our own party in the wrong, we are not afraid to call them on it. I like that we can disagree, and for the most part still unite, its good for us, our party and our country. So for me, its DU all the way!!:toast:
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