Rasmussen: Kucinich doing much better than expected against Republicans

[Colobo]

Rudy beats him 46% to 34% and Thompson 42% to 36%... I have to admit I have trouble believing such a high number of Americans would support him, but...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/kucinich_trails_giuliani_thompson

[Atman]

1. I have a harder time believing that many Americans support THOMPSON

Never mind Rudy. All you have to do is listen to DK speak and you know he's serious. He gets it. All you get from the other two assclowns is "Terror Terror 9/11 9/11!" or snoring.

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[Colobo]

3. I have to be honest with you

Just like Americans would never vote for Tancredo, I think they would never vote for Paul, Dennis or Gravel.

Americans don't vote for candidates who are too far away from the center.

[Desertrose]

5. But what really is the center anymore??

The center has shifted pretty far right, so when you say Americans don't vote for candidates who are too far away from the center, that still leaves Kucinich in a favorable place for all the rest who didn't move as far right.

:)

DR

[Sherman A1]

6. Agreed and Well Said.

The center is pretty far to the Right. I will support DK in the primaries and the Dem nominee in the general. I guess that's really all I can do.

[redqueen]

11. Well put.

:hi:

[DemBones DemBones]

32. Exactly! What people call the center today is

what used to be the right.

[ThomCat]

12. Except that the people you think are the center

are not. The media calls them the center because they are far enough to the right to please big business. If you're looking at what actual people want, Dennis agrees with the majority on almost every issue. The others, and their corporate sponsors, are the ones who aren't representative of what people want.

Only Edwards seems to also be close.

[superkia]

18. I think it has more to do with the media than anything else!

If the media presented him as much as they do some other candidates, I truly believe Americans would appreciate what he is standing up and speaking out on and you would see a completely different result in the polls. I also believe that is why the media keeps him tucked away, they cover Dodd and Richardson more than Kucinich? Even here on DU he doesn't get that much time spent discussing him or what he stands for, it feels like people hear him but do exactly what the media wants them to do....right him off! Its really strange, I see Obama, Clinton and Edwards supporters destroying each others candidates and pointing out the negatives of each candidate but I only seem to hear the word unelectable about Kucinich, no real negatives and he still isn't given a chance.

[John Q. Citizen]

19. Check Pew research and you will see that Dennis' position on the issues is

right where a majority of Americans are at.

And Dennis actually writes down exactly and precisely, in detail, what his positions are.

Do it, I dare you!

[hootinholler]

20. Yeah, like Truman. n/t

[ulysses]

21. you would seem to be mistaken.

Either Dennis isn't what you would call "too far away from the center" to garner votes, or Americans *would*, in fact, vote for such a left-leaner.

[cyclezealot]

27. center bs

Kucinich well exemplifies American values. The center is for armadillos. I find it troubling to have to vote for those who have bought into Bush's bs lies. We knew better, so should have they.

[MadHound]

2. Well it is beginning to sink in that the man has been right on the issues for a long time now

Which in and of itself is rather refreshing. In addition, he doesn't compromise his values and positions to pocket the corporate lucre, and he has become a better speaker over the past four years.

I think that if he got the nomination he could easily beat whoever the 'Pugs put up, and it would be a great thing for our country if he was President.

[TechBear_Seattle]

4. Anyone still insisting that Kucinich is "unelectable"?

I think more and more Americans are starting to realize that Kucinich, more than any other declared candidate, represents their values.

[robcon]

13. I still insist that he is unelectable.

Not a chance. Bigger landslide against him than McGovern... all 50 states - maybe Washington DC will vote for him.

[onenote]

34. well, the fact that he trails repubs who would lose to other dems is hardly a sign of electability

[BigDDem]

43. Yes, he is unelectable

if I'm proven wrong Ill crawl on my hands and knees from Dallas to
Seattle and apologize.

[rinsd]

7. Considering his name recog disadvantage with Rudy, that is quite remarkable.

[Solon]

8. That's remarkable...

Of course, the best thing is that those numbers could only go up over time, assuming the media starts paying attention to him. Kucinich has two big negatives, name recognition, or at least the lack thereof, and the perception of being unelectable. This is a chicken and egg problem though, you can't become electable until you get more recognition, especially from the M$M, and you cannot get name recognition unless you are perceived as electable in the first place.

His issues aren't the problem, most are which would be considered mainstream if uttered from the mouths of any of the top tier candidates. The fact of the matter is that the problems listed above can be overcome.

[EndElectoral]

9. DK scares the hell out of Repubs and corporate Dems...I'm voting for him

[BigDDem]

44. Do you have something to back that up

or is that just your opinion?

[redqueen]

10. It's not hard to believe... he unites people.

The NAFTA / WTO issue alone would bring in voters who gave up on status quo politicians long ago.

[robcon]

14. His vote on the Sept 11 Resolution alone would sink him

Historic landslide if he is nominated, IMO.

[quiet.american]

15. No, I think you'd be in for a surprise there.

Enough people are now disgusted enough with this administration to be willing to take a moment to understand why he voted as he did. After years of the most criminal administration this country has ever seen, I would say a majority of Americans have paused long enough in their flag-waving to think about what it is they're cheering for.

[blm]

17. That's true. This isn't 2004, anymore where people COULD be led by corpmedia

and the influential centrist Dems who supported Bush so publicly at that time.

Nope. The primaries started opposition to Bush. Kerry's blistering of Bush in the debates brought the American people around further to the point the RNC had to rely on their vote stealing plan. Then Katrina. Then Downing Street Memos.

Nope. 2008 is seeing a much more aware citizenry. Where 2004 was up against BushInc at their strongest and they still had to steal it from Dems, the 2008 candidates will be facing a Bush/GOP at its weakest point in over ten years.

Big, big difference.

[robcon]

24. enough people???????

1 out of 435 members voted against the resolution. Do you think maybe Kucinich is out of the mainstream?

He lost me when he advocated a Dept. of Peace - surely the stupidest recommendation by a politician in my life.

My prediction if he won the nomination: he'd lose all 50 states.

[quiet.american]

26. A mainstream poll finds 80% of responders could care less about Bush's prime time speech on Iraq.

That's my answer to your question. Those who voted for the resolution have only demonstrated that they STILL don't get it. Kucinich has my vote in the primaries.

[robcon]

29. He has your vote, but the vote of very few others.

He maxed at 3.5% of Democrats in any of the polls.

[LWolf]

30. Poll numbers are a reflection of the level of corruption

of the election process; the corruption that allows big money donors and the msm to decide who gets the air time and name recognition. There is a closed circle between $$, media coverage, name recognition, and poll numbers. Poll numbers reflect the candidates that the media focuses on. If every candidate had equal air time and equally unbiased coverage, the polls would look a hell of a lot different, wouldn't they?

If Dennis Kucinich got equal air time, his poll numbers would be quite healthy. In my opinion.

[quiet.american]

35. Given your heartfelt convictions about Kucinich, why are you spending so much time on him?

I don't think Mike Gravel has a chance in the world at the nomination, but you won't find me spending a whole evening trying to convince anyone who'll listen that that's so.

In any case, Kucinich may not win the nomination, but he has still won my vote.

[Desertrose]

40. Maybe some people are just doing their thing

like trying to shout down certain candidates....nothing new here on DU - especially when it comes to Kucinich.


Its the same old "low poll%" & "never be elected" stuff since they can't really fault any of his positions, ya know?

DR


And really, what is so bad about a dept of Peace....sure seems like we could use one IMHO.

[rjones2818]

31. You can actually read about the Department of Peace and Nonviolence

here, here and here. See if you think it's "surely the stupidest recommendation by a politician" in your life (this is not aimed at robcon, since he's apparently pretty well set on the subject). Once you do, I think you be pretty impressed!

Department of Peace and Non-Violence? :woohoo:

Go Dennis!
http://dennis4president.com
Choose Peace!

[quiet.american]

36. Thanks for the links, rjones2818. n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

33. I think he has the guts to refuse to

follow groupthink.

You have said twice now that he'd lose all 50 states if he won the nomination.

So let me ask you: if Dennis wins the nomination, will you vote for him in the general election?

[redqueen]

16. You don't think most Americans are sick of that kind of empty,

meaningless, feel-good, dog & pony show bullshit?

I think the vast majority are beyond fed up with it.

[ulysses]

22. yes, indeed.

[redqueen]

23. ...

:hi:

[hayu_lol]

25. The best polling site I've run across...

Click on your candidate's picture and all the polls come up to be compared...all results since January...much more in a very usable form:

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/candidates/Dennis-Kucinich.html

His supporters are all great balls of fire...but Dennis is doing about the same as he did in the last primary.

All polls, jan to Sept, regional results, and state by state standings...not just of Dennis but all candidates.

[robcon]

28. The max preference for Kucinich is 3.5%

and that is among Democrats, not the total electorate.

He doesn't have a prayer.

[BigBearJohn]

37. My nephew just saw Dennis speak at the U of Hawaii - said he was a big hit

Sold my nephew for sure.
Said he will vote for him.
Called him a total breath of fresh air.

[BigBearJohn]

38. Say what you will about Dennis, but I just don't see anything puffed up about him.

To me, he feels true to the bone.

[Totally Committed]

39. This is not just ANY Presidential Election...

Considering who else is running, I'm surprised Kucinich isn't in the top tier yet.

And, I'm serious about that.

TC

[cobalt1999]

41. That is much better than I would have expected too.

I would have guessed he'd be down at least 20% to any republican.

[Highway61]

42. The media is keeping DK below the radar screen

He's my choice and I will vote for him.

Can't buy that man...honesty and integrity is what this country needs and by george, (yikes, I come to HATE that name) he's got it!

edit: spelling