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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:39 PM
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Fred Thompson gaffe today in very red state of SC--says bin Laden should be granted "due process."
Fred wants 'due process' for bin Laden

Fred Thompson said today in South Carolina that Osama bin Laden should be granted "due process."

Speaking to reporters in Greenville, Thompson said the leader of Al Qaeda "needs to be located and killed."

But, according to the AP, the former senator said such a punishment shoudn't be immediately meted out.

''No, no, no, we've got due process to go through'' depending on the circumstances, he said. ''I'm not suggesting those things happen simultaneously."

Thompson's spokesman didn't immediately reply to a question about what sort of due process the candidate thinks bin Laden should get.

<>But his comments today, in military and veteran-heavy South Carolina, are even more puzzling. The prospect of granting anything but swift and final justice to bin Laden is anathema to the GOP.

Thompson may have been indicating that he wants to extract information out of bin Laden before killing him, but the words "due process" will remind many in the political world of similar language that got Howard Dean in trouble in 2003.

UPDATE: Thompson communications director Todd Harris clarifies that his boss wants to give no more rights to bin Laden then those terrorists detained at Guantanamo enjoy.

What Thompson meant, Harris said, is that "before you kill him we need to get every single bit of information out of this guy that we possibly can."

"Any candidate who is suggesting that we shouldn’t milk bin Laden for every ounce of al Qaeda information that he has, doesn’t understand the long-term battle against terrorism."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0907/Fred_wants_.html


(Will the media jump on this like they jumped on Howard Dean. Bets, anyone?)



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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:41 PM
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1. Only in Republicanland could you get in trouble for wanting OBL on trial. nt
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:42 PM
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2. He's playing up his L&O image.


Expect that persona to be a big part of his campaign image.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:43 PM
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6. He's still waiting to see evidence that Osama wants to defect, and take a submarine with him. n/t
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:44 PM
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8. "Give me a ping Vasily, One ping only.."
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:42 PM
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3. LOL! Then why did we hunt down and immediately kill his (many) Number Two guys?
WHAT AN IDIOT!!!!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:47 PM
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11. And we didn't find so much as a single pubic hair from Osama in The WTC, either.
Or maybe THAT is what was in Clarence Thomas' Coke?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:00 PM
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16. Bwah!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:42 PM
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4. "You see, in the criminal justice system, there are three branches..." n/t
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:43 PM
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5. Bingo.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:44 PM
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7. Someone caught him using an exact quote from his scripted character during a Q&A on abortion. n/t
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:47 PM
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10. Talk about sticking to the script....
Is Dick Wolf going to get royalties? :)
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:46 PM
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9. can you imagine Hillary or Obama making a statement like that OH SHIT!!!
The rethugs would be calling for them to quit the race.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:47 PM
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12. Indictments and therapy? Show trials? n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:48 PM
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13. Fred Thompson needs to debate Jonathon Sharkey...
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 04:50 PM by IanDB1
"Any Terrorist who is caught in Minnesota while I am Governor, will find out what the true meaning of my nickname 'The Impaler' means. Right in front of our State Capital. Then Fed’s can take the terrorist’s body from the impaling stake. If the US Department of Justice (DOJ) wants to charge me with brutally murdering a terrorist, they may do so. I do not see an American Jury convicting me."
http://www.jonathonforgovernor.us/Home_page.html


Jonathon Sharkey
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jonathon "The Impaler" Sharkey (born 1964-04-02 in Elizabeth, New Jersey as John Albert Sharkey) is a self-proclaimed satanist, "sanguinary vampyre", Hecate Witch and professional boxer as well as wrestler (under the name Rocky "Hurricane" Flash) and perennial candidate for public office.

He has filed with the Federal Election Commission to run for President of the United States twice as an Independent candidate (in 2004<1> and in 2008<2>) and for Congress in at least three states -- his home State of New Jersey (1999-2000, Republican)<3>, Indiana (Reform Party, 2000)<4> and Florida (2001-02, Republican)<5>. In 2006, he ran for governor of Minnesota.

It is difficult to pin down definitive facts relating to Sharkey, partly because of his numerous aliases, but also due to his authorship, over time, of many autobiographical websites which have included conflicting and unsubstantiated assertions of fact. A Federal judge in Indiana has remarked about Sharkey that "his view of reality and attendant behavior is nothing less than bizarre."<6> Sharkey claims that this was because Sharkey had previously "cursed out" the same judge.<7>

Philosophically, Sharkey professes a hatred for the Christian Supreme Being, God the Father, but claims that he has no disrespect for followers of the aforementioned. He says that this hatred began when his grandmother died, and fully consumed him in 2004. He claims that he became an angry and violent person as a result of his grandmother's death. However, Sharkey maintains that he is a religious pluralist and professes respect for all creeds as well as the US Constitution. His Minnesota gubernatorial campaign slogan was "A New Deal for Minnesota," and his 2008 Presidential campaign slogan is "The New Deal and Hope for America," reflecting his professed respect of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He has proposed impaling "any one found committing an act of terrorism in Minnesota"<8>, and advocates many additional unorthodox approaches to crime and other public issues.

Sharkey lived for a time in Florida under his wrestling name of Rocky Hurricane Flash. While there, he also used the assumed name Kathleen Sharkey and claimed that this Kathleen Sharkey was either his half-sister or his wife. He filed reports with the Federal Election Commission which listed Kathleen Sharkey as a member of his campaign staff. Eventually, a letter was filed with the Federal Election Commission, purportedly by Kathleen Sharkey, which implied that he had died.<9> Documents from a lawsuit filed in the Indianapolis District Court mention that Sharkey attempted to commit suicide. It has been suggested instead that he attempted to fake his own death.<10>

On 06-01-13 Sharkey was arrested in Princeton, Minnesota on an outstanding bench warrant relating to two Indiana felony counts, one of escape and one of stalking a former girlfriend whom he had previously been jailed for harassing.<11> It was later discovered that the felony stalking charge had been dismissed on 2003-09-29<12> when Sharkey pleaded guilty to two counts of invasion of privacy and was ordered to attend mental health treatment.<13> At his trial on 2006-07-12, Sharkey was found not guilty of the felony escape charge.

An independently produced documentary about Sharkey, Impaler, debuted in Australia on February 9, 2007.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathon_Sharkey
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:53 PM
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14. Due process? We don't have that anymore in the U.S.
George Bush, with his faithful little minions Alberto and Unka Dick, have thoroughly dismantled that cumbersome "due process" nonsense. What kind of Republican he-man is Fred supposed to be, anyway? Sounds like he's not very resolute to me.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:55 PM
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15. LOL. You just gotta love it.
He actually MISTAKENLY says something sensible, like we have to follow our system of laws even for the most hated criminals and then has to backtrack and say what I meant to say is that I would violate the constitution and international treaties by torturing him, the same way we are currently torturing people.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:09 PM
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17. Thanks for the material, Lazy Boy.
"due process???"

That should go over nicely with the "yeah war" crowd.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:14 PM
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18. Here's a question--can you imagine what would happen if we captured
him and held him for any length of time? I don't think it will be the same as when we captured Saddam. I think there will be a real threat of inspiring terrorism. Better hope he gets killed by a bomb blast or sniper instead.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:24 PM
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19. He's just channeling Reagan. Reagan's press secy spent half his time explaining that RR "misspoke."
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