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RFKJrNews Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:54 PM
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Chris Dodd with Bobby Kennedy Jr. on Air America Today
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 03:56 PM by RFKin2008
This oughta be interesting...

Chris Dodd will join Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Mike Papantonio and John Morgan on their Air America show, "Ring of Fire" this afternoon.

The show is on right now (2-5 pm Central, 3-6p Eastern), the Dodd interview is coming up in the final hour of the program, so you still have time to tune in and catch it!

Listen on your local Air America affiliate or XM Satellite radio channel 167. You can also listen online at http://ringoffireradio.com

If you miss the live broadcast, you can download the Podcast or listen in the archives at the Ring of Fire website. Thre will also be a re-broadcast on Air America Sunday evening. (Check your local affiliate's schedule for exact times.)

Good show so far...discussing everything from impeachment to FISA to election fraud. Bobby is in rare form today!:)

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:21 PM
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1. Thanks for the tip
I will tune in if I can pick it up.
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RFKJrNews Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:04 PM
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2. Would Dodd appoint RFK as his AG?
According to Senator Dodd in his interview with Bobby Kennedy Jr. today, he would ask RFK to be his Attorney General if elected.

Very encouraging to hear. I've been eagerly awaiting those words from at least one of the presidential contenders. RFK Jr. would be the obvious choice for AG, there is no one better for the job, IMHO.

No response from Bobby as to whether or not he would accept. (Hopefully because RFK Jr. may still be considering his own run for the White House in 2008) But if Kennedy doesn't run, he'd be a natural for AG.

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:07 PM
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4. Bobby'll never serve in a Dodd Cabinet.... he hates the DLC as much or more than I do.
And, like it or not, Dodd is now and always has been (since it's inception) a DLC New Democrat.

TC


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RFKJrNews Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:27 PM
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8. Would Bobby serve in a Dodd administration?
Posted by Totally Committed:

<<<Bobby'll never serve in a Dodd Cabinet.... he hates the DLC as much or more than I do. And, like it or not, Dodd is now and always has been (since it's inception) a DLC New Democrat.

TC>>>


TC, I totally agree with your observation. Dodd hasn't done much through the years to earn my confidence or respect, especially lately. I think you're right that Bobby most likely disagrees with many of Dodd's policies, even if they are old friends.

In the interview today, Bobby gave him a good-but-gentle spanking over the issue of impeachment, which Bobby says we MUST do and Dodd doesn't want to talk about. Dodd kept trying to change the subject, but Bobby held his feet to the fire. Inspiring.

Bobby really stood his ground in the interview, often talking right over Senator Dodd and honestly, he came out of the thing sounding far more presidential than the candidate himself. (Might make other candidates think twice before accepting an interview request from Kennedy; he asks the tough questions the MSM will not ask, and won't be denied an answer.)

Clearly, Dodd offered the carrot of an AG appointment to win Bobby's favor, or possibly his endorsement. Kennedy wisely remained noncommittal, and made some joke about, "should I endorse you just because you are an Irish Catholic from MA?" LOL:)



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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:59 PM
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10. I think RFKjr would be quite happy to serve his country
in such a way, and the DLC should have little to do with his motivation to do so.
And Dodd is the best Democrat of the bunch in terms of longest pedigree.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:19 PM
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6. Sounds like Dodd would
RFK Jr. would make a great AG. I always think John Kerry would be terrific in that job, too.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:05 PM
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3. One can always pick up Air America Radio stream.....
www.airamericaradio.com

And XM satellite radio!
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:08 PM
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5. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Mike Papantonio always have an excellent show on AAR
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:20 PM
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7. Oh, spare me this snake-in-the-grass Christopher Dodd! He is one of the chief
architects of electronic voting, run on "TRADE SECRET," PROPRIETARY programming code, owned and controlled by rightwing Bushite corporations, with virtually no audit/recount controls--engineered by him in collusion with the major crooks in the Anthrax Congress--Tom Delay and Bob Ney--and supported by BOTH party leaderships, with no warning to voters and all talk of election fraud suppressed by both parties. That WAS the fascist coup. October 2002. Same month as the Iraq War Resolution, but under the radar of the American people. The "Help American Vote for Bush Act" (unaccountable, unverifiable, "trade secret" vote counting).

If Dodd can worm his way around an RFK, Jr., interview on this matter, I will be...depressed. Cuz I thought RFK, Jr., was smarter than this. Are the rich and the powerful and the dynastic pulling together against the rest of us?

I'm listening to it now. And I just want to vomit. When Dodd says he wants to restore the "rule of law" and is "horrified" at what the Bushites have done to the Constitution, he is hiding his role in keeping Bush/Cheney in office, facilitating their shredding of the Constitution, and keeping this horrible war going.

RFK is arguing with him, about impeachment. Dodd says it's a distraction. Uh-huh.

Then they got into a discussion of Latin America--Evo Morales, and Hugo Chavez. Dodd says the right things--that leaders like Chavez are popular and are having such an impact on the hemisphere because they are speaking and acting for the disenfranchised and very downtrodden poor--but I don't believe him. Not one word. I think he's lying. I think he's a slimebag, a shyster, and an opportunist, who is trying to ride Leftist sentiment into fascist power, via his good buds at Diebold and ES&S. And he made one big gaffe. He said the Bushite ambassador threatened Bolivians that, if they voted for Evo Morales (--a socialist allied with Chavez, and a 100% indigenous Andes indian) the U.S. would cut off all aid to Bolivia, and that Morales was at 2% in the polls and zoomed ahead and won the presidency, BECAUSE of the ambassador's threat. I'm sorry, but this is not true--that Bolivians voted for Morales IN REACTION to U.S. threats. This Bushite crudity no doubt confirmed some votes, but Morales won because of his extremely popular, progressive, social justice program, and his leadership of the peoples' uprising against U.S. corporations and injustice in the years just before that election. He is part of an enormous and amazing leftist (majorityist) revolution that is sweeping South America, because it's time has come, and millions of people have worked very hard, and many have put themselves at great risk, to bring it about. It is just as much an insult to Bolivians, to say they were voting against Bush's ambassador, as it is of anti-Chavez posters to say that Venezuelans have repeatedly, with ever increasing margins, voted for a "dictator." And Dodd's true mind is revealed in this. This Bilderberg Group member thinks that a more polite U.S. ambassador (and no doubt one using more devious tactics) could have turned back this electoral revolution. A word from a U.S. ambassador, and people vote one way or the other. It's ridiculous and demeaning.

RFK, Jr., says Dodd is "one of my heroes," and "deserves" to be president.

Not one word about our fraudulent election system--engineered by Dodd!

What happened to RFK, Jr.'s lawsuit against Diebold & Co.? Six months ago, he was threatening to expose it all!

I don't understand this. Not one word from RFK about the worst thing that Dodd--or any Democrat, with the possible exception of LBJ--has ever done! Diebold/ES&S "trade secret" vote counting ENDED our democracy, in a formal sense. It still lives in our hearts. But it is clearly no longer operable, and will not be until we restore transparent elections.

Shocking, to hear RFK, Jr. fawning over Dodd in this way. And he WAS fawning. I've never, ever heard RFK, Jr., do that before.

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RFKJrNews Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:44 PM
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9. Bobby should have stopped short of calling Dodd his "hero"
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 05:53 PM by RFKin2008
Because you're right, Peace Patriot. Dodd is NO HERO!

But Dodd has been kissing up to the Kennedys since the very start of his political career. Did you notice how he tried to exploit his 2 years in the Peace Corps during the interview today? So transparent...

While I am encouraged to hear ANY presidential candidate say they want RFK as their Attorney General, I'd be a lot happier to hear those words from one whom I admire and respect (*that* narrows the field considerably)!

Methinks Dodd is part of the problem. He is not the solution. And while I can't speak for Bobby, I really don't think he would ever endorse Dodd, campaign for him, or serve in his administration.

It's never been RFK Jr.'s style to openly attack other Democrats, especially those who have close ties to his uncle Ted. (Had he told Dodd what he *really thinks* today, Uncle Teddy would be put in a rather embarassing position.)

RFK Jr. is always polite in these situations, while at the same time standing firm on the points of disagreement. He debates with class, although I personally wish he would have cut the shameless schmoozing today by telling Dodd he "deserves to be president," when he obviously knows better...

I'd love to see RFK run against Dodd for the Democratic nomination and win. Let's hope he doesn't let old family loyalties stand in his way, for our country would be the loser in the long run.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 07:09 PM
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11. He shouldn't have had him on, without asking about Diebold and ES&S.
That's just TOO BIG of an oversight. It would be like having Rumsfeld on and not asking him where he really was on 9/11, during the critical hour. Elephant in the room sort of thing.

So-o-o-o-o, what is going on? Truly I don't know. It smells of a compromise or a deal--I was going to say a threat, but I don't want to go there. I lived through it all, and it was just horrifying and devastating, for me personally, because I was very involved, as for my generation and the whole country. JFK. MLK. RFK. Bang-bang, shoot-shoot. Sorry to bring it up, but it did occur to me, listening to RFK, Jr., do this fawning interview, of someone I consider to be a major malefactor, with this BIG BLACK HOLE (the fraudulent election system, which RFK knows a lot about) in the center of the interview.

There is something about Dodd's candidacy that STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN. Maybe RFK, Jr., was given the word that this is a fait accompli, that he cannot do anything about it, that he will be completely on the outs if he speaks the truth, and so he might as well play along, if he wants to have any influence or get anything else done in the next couple of decades.

That kind of stink. I fear this guy, Dodd, I really do. He oozes carefully parsed, crowd-pleasing, smooth-as-silk, leftist "talking points" with nothing beneath them--nothing! He's the ideal empty sack as figurehead for a complete corporate/fascist, final looting of America and planet earth.

I don't like Hillary, at all--but at least you can see what she is. Dodd gives me the willies. I think we cannot see what he is.
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RFKJrNews Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:42 PM
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12. His omission of the election fraud question was indeed puzzling
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 09:35 PM by RFKin2008
Peace Patriot, you are so right that Bobby NOT asking Dodd about election fraud in the interview was either one hell of an oversight or was omitted by design, although it's awfully hard to imagine RFK Jr. caving to any pressure which may have been brought to bear.

So what *was* that about, anyway? How could Bobby Kennedy Jr., who has done so much excellent work to expose election fraud neglect to grill one of the key perpe-"traitors" of this sham? Is it because Dodd is a fellow Democrat (after all, only Republicans steal elections, right? LOL), or is it because Dodd is so chummy with Uncle Ted and a Kennedy dare not speak against him?

I don't know, but agree with you that something doesn't smell quite right here...

Here is what I DO know: Bobby is seriously considering running for a major political office, perhaps even the presidency. He could be a serious threat to the current crop of contenders if he enters the race, and they would rather persuade him to "sit this one out" if at all possible. Offering him the Attorney Generalship as an inducement *not to run* is one way they could accomplish that. They'd rather have RFK with them than against them.

This very tactic was employed by FDR back in the 1930s when he feared that Bobby's grandfather Joseph Kennedy might run against him. While FDR needed Kennedy's money and his support to win, the main reason FDR dangled the carrot of appointments within his administration (first as SEC chairman, then Maritime commissioner, and eventually Ambassador to England) was to keep Kennedy out of the presidential race. While always a controversial figure, Kennedy nonetheless enjoyed tremendous popularity and support from the people, and it was no secret that he had presidential ambitions himself.

Especially in the dark and dangerous days leading up to the 1940 election, when FDR actually stood a good chance of losing due to the prevailing isolationist stance most Americans had about involvement in the European war. Kennedy's anti-war sentiment resonated with the public, many of whom were begging him to run against FDR in 1940. Roosevelt was no fool - he knew he had to find a way to neutralize Kennedy and ensure he would be no threat to him politically.

And so it was that Kennedy's fall from grace was carefully orchestrated behind the scenes by an administration and media who were banging the drum for war. By painting an inaccurate picture of Joe Kennedy as an appeaser (or worse, an anti-Semite), they managed to successfully tank any chances Kennedy had to be President. His reputation was ruined, his political future completely destroyed.

Being a wise student of history, perhaps Bobby is trying to avoid making the same mistakes his grandfather did by being too outspoken or rocking the boat too much (even when he is driven by his own principles and deeply-held convictions). By revealing his hand too soon, he stands to lose all.

Remember too that Bobby's father continued to publicly endorse the Warren Report while running for president in 1968, even though he made it clear privately that he never believed a word of it. I think we all know that, had he won the White House, he would have brought his brother's murderers to justice.

If RFK Jr. has serious aspirations to the presidency, he must navigate these shark-infested waters carefully. Because sharks like to eat Kennedys for breakfast.


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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:05 PM
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13. "Big Insurance" favorite
and, he's in the top of most all the corporate money lists available at opensecrets.org ..
banking, Wall St., etc. Why is the Royal Bank of Scotland supporting him?

He attended Bilderberger secret meeting (isn't that invitation only?), what, 3 times?

I think he's a snake in the grass, too.


http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/moneyweb.asp?cycle=2008
the money web: click on Dodd and see his corporate support


2008 PRESIDENTIAL RACE
Contributions from Selected Industries

Insurance

Christopher J. Dodd (D) $605,950

Mitt Romney (R)$459,625

Rudolph W. Giuliani (R)h $370,100

Hillary Clinton (D) $352,700

Barack Obama (D) $269,750

John McCain (R) $156,200

Bill Richardson (D) $127,208

John Edwards (D) $81,750

Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D) $62,825

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?Ind=F09


So many "Democrats" high on the corporate and lobbyists list - higher than those from the party of Big Business. Nixon would be smiling ... and, so many Democrats don't seem to mind or care about the corporate control and connections ... the rhetoric and media created images are selling and people are buying, without checking under the hood, kicking the tires, or reading the small print's terms and conditions.


CHRISTOPHER J. DODD (D)
Top Contributors

SAC Capital Advisors $344,100
Citigroup Inc $147,050
United Technologies $137,250
Royal Bank of Scotland $121,950
Bear Stearns $120,350
Goldman Sachs $99,000
St Paul Travelers Companies $98,800
The Hartford $93,700
American International Group $81,800 (Maurice Greenberg is Chair of the Nixon Center Board)
Merrill Lynch $73,400
PricewaterhouseCoopers $61,800
AQR Capital Management $59,800
Morgan Stanley $58,100
Taconic Capital Advisors $56,100
Credit Suisse Securities $54,300
JP Morgan Chase & Co $50,700
UBS Americas $48,650
Liberty Mutual Insurance $45,300
Bank of America $44,450
UST Inc $42,050

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00000581&cycle=2008
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