Rasmussen Tracking Poll...Edwards tied with Obama...

[SaveElmer]

Couldn't help noticing that Edwards and Obama were tied in todays Rasmussen Daily tracking poll...

One day's tracking is not reliable enough so will have to see if it holds...but pretty interesting...

Hillary 40
Obama 18
Edwards 18

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/daily_presidential_tracking_poll__1

[ruggerson]

1. You mean the "unity express" has stalled?

Heaven forfend.

[liberalmike27]

7. Surprising

In light of the fact he gets almost no coverage through the mainstream media, or the corporate media if you prefer.

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. Precisely what my brother, the blue dog, says.

He's mystified as to why Edwards isn't getting more press.

[Totally Committed]

10. ...

:rofl:

TC

[draft_mario_cuomo]

16. I suspected voters would eventually ask, "Where's the beef?" nt

[obnoxiousdrunk]

2. So who is

going to get the VP spot ? Obama or Edwards ?

[Zueda]

3. Neither! n/t

[obnoxiousdrunk]

11. Never say never.

[Zueda]

13. I didn't...

I said "Neither".

:)

Seriously... If she does though, I would have a whole different outlook of her.


But...ain't gonna happen.

[durrrty libby]

4. So Hillary and Obama remain the same and Edwards inched up a bit?

[jsamuel]

5. not quite

Obama has come down about 10 points from a high of about 28. Edwards has come up from a low of about 11 to a high of 18.

[Tellurian]

6. I'm expecting Edwards will surpass Obama by next week..

and Obama will have to deal with Richardson...

[MethuenProgressive]

12. I see Edwards falling into the "others" catagory.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him passed by Richardson, and if Clark enters Edwards will be out of the picture soon thereafter.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

17. Hey, it may happen tomorrow

;)

And the CMSM will have its knives out for Obama. They built him up and him falling to 3rd despite the corporate media's backing will inevitably lead to a series of "What went wrong for Obama?" stories.

[durrrty libby]

8. Isn't that interesting?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

15. Obama once led the Rass poll at 32 points (HRC was at 30) and once led Edwards by 19

This is huge news, especially given the massive disparity in press coverage each gets...As far as Obama goes, he is hemorrhaging support...18% is the lowest he has ever been in any poll since his campaign began.

[rinsd]

14. I saw that.

Though I want to wait another day or two before I make speculation on trends.

Even then this could be a brief dip.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

18. True but this is the first poll ever that had Edwards tied with Obama nationally

The fact we are even having this discussion after Obama once was 19 points ahead of Edwards about 2 1/2 months ago speaks volumes...

[durrrty libby]

19. Off topic, but Hillary just got some big endorsement announced on

MSNBC

And it is "The United Transportation Union on Tuesday endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for the Democratic nomination for president, the first national union endorsement of the 2008 campaign.

"The UTU has a long history of picking winners early. Hillary will be a president that America's working families can count on. Time and again, as a United States senator, she has stood with us," UTU President Paul Thompson said."

It is now posten in the "latest" and http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/28/ap/politics/main3212955.shtml

[rinsd]

21. Yeah I saw that. Its an excellent endorsement.

:hi:

[saracat]

22. It isn't a "real " endorsement!

10. This UTU endorsement was evidently made without any feedback from the membership...
members - who were not consulted have already started canceling their PAC contributions.

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/8/28/131038/060/2...

My husband just got off the phone with the DC office. Their response with why they endorsed Hillary is that she is the one polling the best and they need to endorse early so that they are early on the list when it comes to be "payback" time. They did no phoning or letter sending whatsoever to poll the people who are contributing to the PAC. My husband was not only a UTU member but gave a monthly PAC donation. Needless to say, he's cancelling his donation. He even told the guy on the phone out of the three candidates you picked the one who hasn't walked a picket line. Peachy.

by cwaltz on Tue Aug 28, 2007 at 10:38:23 AM PDT

Posted by OUtiside the beltway

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/08/cl...

[rinsd]

23. Wow a kos diary by an Edwards supporter who was already shown to be lying in that thread.

You're better off with the other smear that this is a corrupt union.

[saracat]

25. The person was not shown to my knowledge to be either "lying' or an Edwards supporter.

She appeared to be "mistaken" about Hillary walking a picket line but nothing shows her story about how endorsements are given to be false. In fact it seems to be supported by others!

[rinsd]

26. She insisted on it because her husband told her so.

Sorry if I don't invest that much trust in an anecdotal story told by an anonymous poster especially one that has been supportive of a different candidate who just happens to have a reputation for being a union guy.

"In fact it seems to be supported by others!"

There are 75 replies in that thread. Only the diarist being discussed said says anything about the union and how the endorsement was given. One commenters proposed that the board may have voted on this rather than a poll taken of membership but it is more speculation that anything experienced.

So when Edwards rolls out some large union endorsements later this month that don't have polling of membership will you consider them invalid?

[saracat]

27. If the membership isn't behind the endorsement, Yes.

I don't rust the "elitist " endorsement of Union Leaders that vote for their own interests against the interests of the workers.But I guess it is okay with a campaing that accepts fundraisers from Rupert Murdoch and Corporate Ceo's!

[rinsd]

28. Fair enough. Credit for consistency.

[sampsonblk]

20. Rick Lazio Effect

Attack Clinton and start sinking. Its happened a few times after Obama 'won' a debate.

Is it because she's a woman? Or because some people see her as some type of victim? I don't know. Every time she gets attacked, the other guy goes down or she goes up.

This recent 'gaffe' seems to have paid off nicely for her. A few more of those and this thing will be over.

If it turn out that she is insulated from any type of attacks, this could be a shorter campaign season than we thought.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

24. Obama is in a catch-22

Part of his appeal is the "new kind of politics" image he has. If he attacks others, which he has repeatedly done this summer, he turns off some people who bought the hype and thought he was a "different kind of politician." On the other hand, if he wants to be president and not VP he has no choice but to attack Clinton. It is a weird situation to be in but Obama has only himself to blame for this.

[sampsonblk]

30. Good points

[TeamJordan23]

36. Yep, better to have the wife come out and do the attacking for you. nm

[draft_mario_cuomo]

37. Definitely. BO calling HRC "naive and irresponsible" may have been the turning point for him nt

[PresidentObama]

29. We'll see if it holds.

Go Edwards!! :)

Keep leading in Iowa polls, and jump up in those national polls.

[illinoisprogressive]

31. August of 2003. Runaway leader: Howard Dean. Dems love to topple the so called leader. hehehe

[draft_mario_cuomo]

33. Obama once was the leader at 32%....HRC is not Dean but Obama looks like this year's Wes Clark...

Remember how well the anti-IWR "savior" who entered the race late in 2003 amid much media fanfare did in the polls when he was new and largely unknown?

[illinoisprogressive]

32. I do agree, the Where's the beef questions will soon be asked of yur gurl

[TSIAS]

34. This is hilarious

I don't know how anyone, myself included, can be giddy about a poll showing a candidate 20 + points behind the leader.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

38. A candidate erasing a 19 point deficit to 2nd place Obama is no big deal?

And it is more impressive since he did this with a fraction of press coverage and money. You seem to be forgetting that 2-3 months ago many, mostly BO supporters, on DU were declaring the Edwards campaign dead. Now he tied their juggernaut and it means nothing? If Rass' is accurate and other polls begin to show this the media will be forced to give more coverage to Edwards. How is that not something for JE supporters to be happy about?

One step at a time... It isn't as if Edwards was going to go from 12% to 1st place overnight.

[Colobo]

35. I'll commit suicide right now.

:sarcasm:

[William769]

39. Edwards is the man to beat Obama.

Just like Hillary is the woman to beat Obama.

[Colobo]

40. Listen to Ethel Kennedy.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

41. Edwards-Clinton or Clinton-Edwards?

:bounce:

[William769]

42. I could live with that.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

43. Same here. 16 years of progress! nt