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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:40 AM
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New way to counter the "I've never been hired by a poor person"
You've heard the mantra. Bush's tax cuts help everybody because they give the money mostly to the top 1 percent. Top 1 percent (according to paper/theory) spend the money, creating jobs.

"I've never been hired by a poor person." - apparently never was a plumber who responded to a call to a working poor neighborhood.

The counter:

"Would you rather get $10 each from the 1 percent that benefitted from the tax cuts, or would you rather get fifty cents each from the other 99 percent?"
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:45 AM
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1. in addition ....
the wealthy usually get that way because they make money off the poor and middle class. The tax structure benefits the wealthy and the wealthy contribute to elect politicians who will implement that tax structure.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:50 AM
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2. The old Trickle-down canard
A small business owner is not going to go hire somebody just because they have an extra $10K (or whatever) in their pocket. They hire people when they NEED to hire people, not because they have an extra 10K in their bank account pocket.

Giving extra money to already rich people is an extremely in efficient way to spark the economy. But RW middle class falls for it everytime even though the tax cuts barely help them at all.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:51 AM
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3. And the Answer is "Sure You Have, You Just Don't Realize It"
anyone who works for an employer that provides goods and services to regular people can only hire if the customers buy the product.

And the flip side is: "How many rich people have actually offered you a job?" There are more wealthy people now with more money than ever. So by that logic, why aren't any jobs? How much of that newfound wealth is going into job creation?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:01 PM
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5. Oh, it creates jobs alright
It's just that all those new jobs are overseas.

At a fraction of the wages paid American workers.

"It's good for the economy" says the White House. Well... yeah, it is, it's good for the economy of everyone but America. Why do they hate American workers so much? Don't they like working for us?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 11:55 AM
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4. That's how the tax system is set up
More taxes are paid by the 99 percent. Yeah, $10 is collected from each of the top 1 percent, but from the other 99 percent, 50 cents is taken.

The math: Out of 100 people
1 person pays $10
the other 99 pay 50 cents each = $49.50

It is nothing more than a redistribution of dollars from the masses to the upper 1 percent.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:28 PM
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6. Have you or anyone you know ever been robbed by one?
Throw everything towards the rich, and nothing towards the poor, and everything you work towards in your great new job offered to you by that rich person is likely to be taken away by increased taxes on the lower and middle classes, increased burden on social services, resulting increased crime, increased insurance rates, etc., etc...

It's called balance.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 12:39 PM
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7. Try this: "The rich don't create the need for food and shelter."
All the investor class does is leetch a significant percentage of working capital out of the economy and hoard it for themselves.

If there were no investor class, people would still need food and shelter. Poor people would grow food and build shelter from the elements whether the investor class was there or not. If there were no investor class and multinational corporations, small businesses would be fulfilling these needs.
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