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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 04:52 PM
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Karl Rove's Worst Nightmare


I can dream, can't I?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:04 PM
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1. Nothing scares the repukes more than having to run against Edwards
Populist, articulate and not in the pocket of corporate donors. They have no idea how to beat him outside of gawping at his haircuts and making fun of his wife's cancer.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:14 PM
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2. true
I'm also very tired of their assessment that wealthy people are somehow automatically excluded from caring about the poor
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 06:46 PM
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4. It's so frickin perdictable
Sadly, my coworkers are 90% Wrong Wingers. The haircut is starting to wear my ass dry.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:03 PM
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7. Typical Babble mesmerizes Flying Chimps
Isn't it amazing that one otherwise, and mostly, meaningless factoid pulled from life and Wal-la the little monkey minds can not be refocused to what is important. In the worst case scenario Edwards' lifetime of making himself a public servant can be over shadowed by an orchestrated highlighting of a faux pas. In context his plane costs tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands daily to transport his campaign entourage. The food they eat must be thousands daily. He has spent millions on media. Millions on research internal polling advisors...so a few hundred to make a candidate look the part is peanuts. But that babble factor, Breck Girl b.s., pretty boy crappola...a think tank was no doubt hired for many thousands to build this imagery and this little haircut blurb falls right into the swift boaters mythbuildng.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:22 PM
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9. Plus he is from the South. We now know Rove and co. feared Edwards the most in 04' for 3 reasons
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 09:23 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
In no particular order:

1) His southern roots
2) His populism
3) His charisma
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 11:00 PM
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15. I think that's the case.
That's why I'm leaning in his "general direction."

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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 12:30 AM
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16. You do realize if you and I agree on a candidate the universe will explode in a ball of photons
:scared:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:52 AM
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21. LOL
I may have to change my opinion under the circumstances? ;)
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:22 AM
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20. If they were really scared of Edwards, they'd be pretending they want Edwards to be the nominee.
Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 06:24 AM by Perry Logan
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:58 PM
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26. don't forget his sin of being a lawyer
Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 02:59 PM by DrDan
and being involved with hedge funds.

Of course, there are no rePigs like that, are there????


oh yeah - nearly forgot. He has a large house. sean cannot stand the fact that a Dem has a large house.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:16 PM
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3. I'm going to Rec this just because it's a great image!
Not to mention that I agree with the sentiment.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 06:48 PM
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5. The "Edwards scares Republicans" meme is getting old...
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 07:22 PM
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6. I don't think so, I believe it's true. n/t
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:20 PM
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8. Beats the "vote for me because of my skin color makes me electable" meme of another candidate nt
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 09:21 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:23 PM
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10. Like the "I can campaign anywhere" because I'm not Black or a woman meme. NT
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:26 PM
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11. Who said that?
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 09:28 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
The only thing I have heard is someone saying he can campaign everywhere because of his southern and rural roots. The "I can compete in the South" part is something southern Democrats have been touting for years, such as Al Gore in 1988 (whose candidacy was based on winning the southern primaries during the Super Tuesday the DLC helped set up), Clinton in 1992, and Edwards and Clark in 2004.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't women the majority of voters in places like Iowa, Oklahoma, Georgia, and Kentucky?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:34 PM
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12. Right here:
http://www.iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=373

"It's not just a question of who you like," Edwards said. "It's not just a question of whose vision you are impressed with. It's also a question of who is most likely to win the general election. It's a pretty simple thing. Who will be a stronger candidate in the general election here in the State of Iowa? Who can go to other parts of the country when we have swing candidates running for the Congress and the Senate? Is the candidate going to have to say, 'Don't come here. Don't come here and campaign with me. I can't win if you campaign with me.'"

He added later, "I think it's just a reality that I can campaign anyplace in America."


I guess those swing candidates don't want to be seen with Obama and Clinton because they're not Southern, right?
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:47 PM
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13. Yeah, rural areas. Obama is from Chicago and Clinton represents New York
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 09:48 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
==I guess those swing candidates don't want to be seen with Obama and Clinton because they're not Southern, right?==

No, they may not want them for the same reasons they did not want Kerry in 2004...Edwards will connect better in relatively rural states and the South in the general election.

You dodged my question. Aren't women the majority of voters in every part of the country?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:56 PM
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14. Edwards connected so well in 2004 that he disappeared off the radar
almost completely.

So what? Women voters favored John Kerry by a nice margin in 2004 — and that did a fat lot of good, didn't it?
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:14 AM
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17. Edwards is easy for the GOP to beat.
They can hang the flip-flopped tag on him very easily and show him as a politician who changes his positions to suit the moment, instead of a person of principles.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:54 AM
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22. Over what issue? All of the candidates say their war vote was wrong?
I think 'flip flopper' is preferable to Republicans period these days?
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:21 AM
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18. Why John Edwards must not only be defeated, but destroyed
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:16 AM
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19. Why is it wrong for a wealthy person to fight for the poor?
Edwards is always slammed for his "hypocrisy" being rich while his message is about serving the poor. I would like the elite bastards who are making this claim to explain to me why it is wrong for Edwards to fight for the little guy?

I know that if I suddenly became rich, I still would support policies and programs that helped the poor and middle class. I came from a middle class working family, lucky enough to go to and complete college. Compliments of Ronald Reagan I could not find a job right out of college and had to work in the same factory as my father until Ronald Reagan's policies busted the union by closing the facility and reopening it with illegal immigrants.
But I am now in management yet I support what labor unions stand for. I can not preach that support at work but I do not have to confront that issue as I work for a company that treats it's employees very well without a union.

John came from a working class family and is now wealthy, what is wrong with him fighting for those still in the working class?
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 09:58 AM
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23. Why do repubs have a problem w/it? I'd have to agree w/Marsh: "It threatens their very existence."
I'd go even further, though, and include the Democrats of the Leisure Class along w/the repubs.

Nothing is scarier than the thought of the poor rising up and realizing that the talk of the American dream through Republican policies (and the cheerleading of talk radio) will never reach that far down to them. If the truth be told to the masses, Republicans would never win another election and wingnut radio hypocrisy would be finished forever. That's why Edwards must not only be defeated, but destroyed.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Sapphire%20Blue/430



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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 05:57 PM
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28. It makes them feel guilty because they are not fighting for the poor.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 10:07 AM
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24. The media effort to marginalize Edwards is
the biggest clue that the r's don't want to run against him. Thus far, they've been pretty effective. However, things may change rapidly when real votes are cast.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:53 PM
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25. If I can't have Gore
I'd take Edwards, I think? I'm still making up my mind. I love what DK has to say whenever I hear him talk. But John Edwards just might have a shot, especially if he has to run against anyone in that motley crew of Thugs. Have you noticed they have NO ONE! And we are out doing them on the money thingy big time. Go Dems. I love us.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:00 PM
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27. Karl Rove's Worst Nightmare is bubblegum pink spandex pants.
Who's kidding who? :rofl:

Edwards might be in the top 5 though.....

TC


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