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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:10 PM
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Clinton's candidacy lacks premise
I guess the so called haters here are not the only ones who cannot figure out what Hillary's message is. Why she is running. or what issues she is known for. this article was written by someone who talked to Hillary supporters and none of them could name policy or issues except her failed health care.



Recently I spent two back-to-back days interviewing voters the old-fashioned way — in person, face to face, and one by one.
These short, confidential, and relatively unstructured interviews were primarily devoted to exploration of a ballot measure that Florida voters may decide in November 2008. But as a warm-up to each dialogue, I asked about the forthcoming presidential contest. The interviews — conducted in two Democratic-leaning counties — initially seemed to suggest that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) is a shoo-in. Even most of the Republicans whom I spoke with seemed inclined to vote for her. But on further reflection, I am not so sure of her advantage. The absence of a central premise for her candidacy may be a fatal flaw in her bid for the presidency.

Rather than asking voters a standard battery of favorability or approval questions, I simply inquired why each Clinton backer chose her over her opponents. Voters could say anything. Justifications offered spontaneously for supporting Clinton were all over the place. Some mentioned experience, both in the White House with husband Bill and, more recently, in the Senate. Image-oriented comments were common. Several liked her style of speaking. There were some mentions of her “strength.”

One particularly interesting set of comments focused on the angle of her candidacy as a symbol for change. These voters mentioned her gender, of course, and their sense that it’s time for the first-ever female president. But even as some characterized her as an agent of change, they seemed embarrassed to admit that she is also a status quo candidate. Like the Bushes, the Clintons are hardly a novelty, some thought aloud.

Mentions of issues were rare. One voter mentioned her “opposition to wars,” but other than that, there are no particular issues driving her supporters. A few mentioned that they “like what I’ve heard her say,” but when asked a follow-up seeking clarification, the responses were all about style. No particular substantive policy position or accomplishment was evident.
Out of this mélange of responses, I conclude that there is no unified premise underlying Clinton’s appeal. There is nothing
thematically that rises to the level of her husband’s appeal as The Man from Hope, or even The Audacity of Hope that seems to float Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-Ill.) boat. It’s more like her fans are just hoping she wins, but for no particular reason. If campaigns are about cultivating and reinforcing extant political beliefs and opinions, then it’s a challenging task that Clinton’s team faces.

http://thehill.com/david-hill/clinton-candidacy-lacks-premise-2007-08-15.html
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:13 PM
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1. Your anti-Hillary rhetoric lacks premise. eom
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:15 PM
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2. There never is a "premise" until after both parties nominate their candidates.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:17 PM
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3. How about this simple question: Why is she running for President?
Uh, to win. She said so herself.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:28 PM
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4. David Hill's article lacks substance, and the OP lacks critical thought. nt


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Muddy Waters Guitar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:31 PM
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5. Actually, it does a good job encapsulating many of our doubts
Hillary does not seem able to formulate a consistent policy except to merely follow what a focus group temporarily shows-- as in supporting the Iraq War for 5 years. Hillary is a follower, not a leader.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-15-07 09:34 PM
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6. You're starting to sound panicky n/t
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