Are You Buying the "Lyme Disease" Story???

[monmouth]

I've been busy and not on DU for a few days. If there have been threads on this then I apologize but I see nothing recently on the subject. Personally, I think it's a cover story to account for the stupid, insipid remarks * comes out with. The caretakers needed to invent something, anything to cover the incompetence of the chimp and came up with the symptoms of this disease to cooincide with the verbal and mental ineptness of *. I may have a tinfoil hat on and could be wrong, I just have my doubts. It certainly would be no problem creating a medical "diagnosis" and inventing Lyme as the reason for the verbal missteps. Whatcha think?

[Dogmudgeon]

1. Not buying it.

I had Lyme Disease. Had at least TWO exposures to it. It never did much more than make me fatigued. Stupidity, craziness, homicidal mania and religious delusions were NOT part of the deal -- although I would have appreciated it.

But as Tim Leary once said, "Set and Setting". When you're fucked up, you stay at home and enjoy it. You don't go around invading countries and pissing on your friends.

--p!

[monmouth]

2. Many thanks, I shall remove the tinfoil....

[midnight]

3. Thank you for clearing this matter up. When I read that post

earlier, I was absolutely alarmed at how many horrible outcomes were possible with a tick bite. Do you mind sharing the treatment if any? If you don't that's alright too.

[leveymg]

6. CDC: Neurrological disorders are associated in 5% of the cases

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/ld_humandisease_symptoms.htm (U)p to 5% of untreated patients may develop chronic neurological complaints months to years after infection. These include shooting pains, numbness or tingling in the hands or feet, and problems with concentration and short term memory.

Most cases of Lyme disease can be cured with antibiotics, especially if treatment is begun early in the course of illness. However, a small percentage of patients with Lyme disease have symptoms that last months to years after treatment with antibiotics. These symptoms can include muscle and joint pains, arthritis, cognitive defects , sleep disturbance, or fatigue. The cause of these symptoms is not known. There is some evidence that they result from an autoimmune response, in which a person’s immune system continues to respond even after the infection has been cleared.

Now, who does that sound like? But, these neuropsychatric symptoms are also consistent with any number of problems. So, lyme is only one possible explanation for Bush's apparent mental breakdown.

[kickysnana]

11. A Marine Officer, Marathoner, Hockey Player disagrees with you

As do I.

He got Lyme at Quantico and was treated for 6 weeks with strong antibiotics and allowed to postpone the forced March as were others. He said he did not feel "normal" for an entire year.

I was 24, going places busy, busy, busy. Went to an Air Show in Menominee in August 1974 and got bit before Lyme was even found in CT. Ran a fever for a few days. In January I got the worse flu of my life. It lasted two years. I had to quit working. My two sons were born infected or got it through nursing. I had antibiotics probably three times in my life before that and I was into the doctor once a month for infected everything, throat, sinus, ears, gall bladder. 10 year migraine. I tried to go back to work in the 1980s but by 1985 I could no longer work full time again. Took the one and only vacation with my children in Nashville. Got bit with a different strain. In 1988 my brain leaking knowledge I started falling, then I lost the use of my arms for driving, then I lost the use of my legs for walking. I was in bed from Aug 1988 to Feb 1990 when I was was no longer able to breath when I fell asleep an MS doctor made the diagnosis. I was treated for Lyme until Dec 2005. I still cannot keep up with the seniors in my building.

Now for the cognitive. I forgot how to type, to spell. I forgot word definitions. I forgot how to cook. I would forget and leave th stove on all the time. I would forget how to drive to the store. In 1988 I forgot how to write my name. Despite treatment in Nov 2000 I attempted to go to a Lyme rally in NYC and when I got to the Airport. I could not remember what I was supposed to do even though I had a complete itinerary in my purse. I sat crying for about 15 minutes and figured out I needed to find a cab somewhere and go home. Luckily I remembered where I lived. I spent one month in intensive treatment, antibiotics and other antibiotics boosting medicine, strict diet and hyperbaric oxygen. It was not a cure but I haven't had an episode like that again. Sentences come out wrong. I have to write everything down and try not to lose what I wrote it on. I need lots and lots of sleep everyday.

What he has is neuroLyme. You are genetically predisposed to it. 20% would be unable to fight it off and it will linger, relapsing remitting for life. 1% will die within 2 years even with treatment. It looks like ALS, MS, Alzheimer's, Schizophrenia, non-aids immune deficiency, rheumatoid arthritis, crohn's. Any organ can fail. Any system can become infected over and over again.

I do wish it on him. It takes an average of 20-30 years off your life and we don't know if the people who were just "tired for awhile" will sometime later have their shit hit the fan. Anecdotally from the thousands of people I have spoken with or emailed with when your health starts to decline or some other stress or hit you just don't know if you will be me. 57 in a 90 year old body.

The reason they want you to have a false sense of security.
All emerging diseases were made National Security threats.
The CDC, NIH have military roots, you have ot have a commission to work at the higher levels there.
They were going to control the disease not let the patients control it like AIDS
An actuary told us in 1993 that the insurance companies knew that a chronic Lyme patients costs more to threat than an AIDS patient (pre AZT) and that they were going to go with the mental health model. Restrict treatment. The majority of those who continued to be sick would be off private insurance and on govt insurance in 2 years.
Pharmaceuticals can make no money off of simple antibiotics so there is no reason for them to treat you. They get boatloads more if you get complications, endless tests and treatments.
Lyme Disease itself was probably accidental released from Plum Island through shoddy procedures and traveled across the county. Lyme is one of 34 bio weapons listed by the govt. (Why if it only makes you tired for a short time?)
Lyme became poulticed in 1993 at Congressional hearings. Kennedy and Burascanno on one side. GOP and Steere on the other. GOP was in power Steere won.
Lyme Disease patients are lepers. It is unbelievable how terrified doctors are of treating chronic Lyme.
Doctors are being prosecuted across the country for treating patients. Most keep their licenses bo the process takes at least 2 years and costs 250K and is not covered by insurance.
Insurance companies slow pay, refuse to pay and punish doctors who treat chronic Lyme patients.
If you want treatment for Lyme beyond 30 days you have to pay out of pocket.
The latest managed care scam is giving people 2 doxycyclene pills and telling them that is treatment. Guaranteed not to cure one patient ever. Based on a THREE WEEK Yale study. WITH NO FOLLOW UP AT ALL.
This is what they call peer reviewed research today.
Lyme tests were dumbed down in order to manufacture the vaccine. In order to manufacture the vaccine you had to prove it worked. They could not so they made the tests they used to detect it bad. CDC protocol gold standard says that the tests have to pick up only 39% of disease in known infected blood WTF?
Just this month they decided that for epidemiological purposes the rash is not an indicator. epidemiological criteria is not supposed to be used for diagnosis but it is rapidly becoming law, especially for the insurance gate keepers.

If you happen to start getting a lot of weird symptoms and start getting a lot of "atypical (insert disease here) diagnosis and the meds do not work. Better think Lyme and get thee some antibiotics for a year or more. Or you could be me.

:cry:

[Perry Logan]

4. It seems unlikely they would put out such a story.

[pretzel4gore]

5. the Farting Decider's got Lyme disease?

junyer's a mass murdering thug....he and his plague o host gopig pals have apparently loosed the strings on pandora's box, the economy is on life support. Lyme disease? why not ptsd? ted (bundy) had the flu when they hanged him

bush is not a public servant

[Algorem]

7. heard at press conference Bush looked like he lost weight.

can't stand looking at him,so i didn't notice.

[Gman]

8. It's a convenient excuse

as in this article:
http://www.mentalhealthandillness.com/Articles/LymeDiseaseAndCognitiveImpairments.htm

However, anyone with any sense already knows Bush has always been just plain stupid.

[Botany]

9. Tons of people around D.C. have Lyme Disease

And with all his time at Camp David and out in parks biking bush's getting
Lyme disease is no surprise.

[Bitwit1234]

10. What makes me suspicious of this and anything they put out about

bush and his physical and mentally state is.......he went to Camp David for the colon scope procedure and he had the physical done in the white house.

There was some reason they did not want the public to get hold of any of the test results. You know how things are leaked. There is something physically wrong with bush..and they don't want it leaked. AND we all know there is a mental problem, and he has had that for decades.

[madrchsod]

12. camp david for the scope?

camp david has a accredited hospital that does this procedure? a full physical at the white house? never heard that this stuff was done at these places

[donsu]

13. I think something is up - I don't believe the colon or Lyme stories

I do believe they are putting out this info for a reason

[monmouth]

14. That's what my thinking is and the reason for the post. We'll never know....

[pretzel4gore]

15. that's one way outta the mess (for the gopigs)

have junyer come down with something fatal....or a heart attack, or something. they are criminals. they shood be arrested, put in jail and then put down like dogs (just being overly optimistic here) the entire lot of them
fact- the gopigs are scheming 24/7 against the american people ever getting any idea of how utterly criminal they are/were.
24/7!
365/8!

[Eurobabe]

16. You put the Lyme in the Colon Polyp and call me in the mornin'

[MODemocrat]

17. One of Rove's made up deals to peddle through the media

I read where lymes disease is supposed to cause mental lapses, etc., so it just figures this is just
another excuse for Bush's ineptness.:+ :+ :+ :+ :think: :think: