When will Edwards drop out of the race ?

[jaysunb]

Poll question: When will Edwards drop out of the race ?

I don't dislike Edwards, but I don't think even the wildest dreamer can imagine a scenario where he will be able to vault to the front of the current pack, and should a " white knight " ( Al Gore ? ) jump in, it would futher erode his chances.

I'm wondering when he'll step back and pray the eventual nominee will ask him to be their running mate.

[MonkeyFunk]

1. No one will ask him to be their running mate....

he didn't add anything last time out. Nor do I think he'd accept such an offer anyway.

[maxsolomon]

2. its august

you publish obituaries really early, don't you?

[bigdarryl]

3. what kind of stuipid question is that when will Hillary drop the fuck out

[jaysunb]

5. I hope she drops out today...

:evilfrown:

[durrrty libby]

24. Why would the next president drop out?Talk about stupid questions

[IndianaGreen]

4. Not a vote has been cast. No one is inevitable winner or loser.

Blech!

[LittleClarkie]

6. I reckon that Obama and Hillary will attack each other to death

and Edwards will pick up the pieces. So I vote Other, and the Other is "not at all"

[Deep13]

11. hopefully nt

[Donnachaidh]

28. Obama and Hillary will cancel each other out

Of course, the OP doesn't offer that on the poll. Too scary to think about - especially for the bots posting polls? :shrug:

[jaysunb]

31. FYI

I'm not a supporter of either of the front runners...although I prefer anybody over Hillary...as far as me being a "bot", I'm not sure what that means, but it doesn't sound very friendly.

[WI_DEM]

7. If he wins Iowa (and he is leading in most polls there) it could do what an Iowa victory did for

Kerry in '04--propell him forward. The momentum might be so strong that he might not be stoppable. It's possible. If he loses Iowa then he's out.

[supernova]

8. Too early for the Dems; though

it might be appropriate to ask of Repubs, like say McCain. Or Romney.

[Deep13]

9. Right after he's sworn-in. nt

[goodhue]

10. other

I figure he will be our next president.

[Clark2008]

48. God, I hope not.

I don't want a smart Bush.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

12. January 21 2009- president edwards will have won the race

:bounce:

[saltpoint]

45. Yes. And he will have moved on to the next set of projects.

Quite a long list, too, given the extensive failures of the current pResident.

[Yael]

13. I am thinking he can drop the campaign after he makes his acceptance speech next Nov.

[MrSlayer]

14. I don't think he will.

If all things stay the same I think he'll be the nominee. He'll win Iowa and NH and he'll carry that momentum nationwide as Kerry did. I don't think he'll get a clean sweep off of the first two but he'll win enough after those to make him the guy.

[PinkTiger]

15. Edwards will drop out on Jan. 30, 2008.

He will wait until after all the primaries are complete, and he will lose all.

[JANdad]

16. Has the Great Pumkin not shown up yet

Linus?

[AtomicKitten]

17. He's got an interesting strategy.

He's going balls-out in Iowa and could win it.

But I see that approach as the campaign teetering on one leg. He seems to be putting most of his eggs in one basket.

That could either be brilliant or end him.

[jaysunb]

19. "That could either be brilliant or end him."

I agree...but I lean toward it being the end. He's spent 2 years in Iowa & untold dollars only to be virtually tied with the other 2. That's a telltale sign of where he's heading.
I wouldn't be surprised if he were supplanted by Richardson in third place before the winter.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

41. That is a myth. Obama has spent $2.2 million in Iowa, Edwards only half a million

Obama also has twice as many offices in Iowa and more establishment backing (the state's attorney general and treasurer). Clinton has spent about 60% more than Edwards in Iowa, has several key establishment endorsements--including of a popular recent two-term governor. Edwards' lead despite these disadvantages is a testament to his fundamental strength in Iowa.

[nickinSTL]

18. you work for the MSM? Or for the Clinton or Obama campaigns?

The MSM has done everything they can, it seems, to first limit the race to Clinton, Obama, and Edwards...and now they're trying hard to eliminate Edwards and make it seem like only 2 Dems have a chance...15 MONTHS before the election.

LET THE VOTERS CHOOSE, stop trying to impose a nominee on us.:mad:

[samplegirl]

20. Hey anyone of these canidates is better

than what we have. Consider that!!!

[jaysunb]

21. You're right !

but, that's not the point....

[Broke Dad]

26. Nobody drops until they are out of money . . .

Edwards is raising more than enough money to be competitive. And it is not coming from the corporate lobbyists who have been running Congress since the Reagan era. YES, the Reagan era. A better question is which candidate is burning through money faster than they can raise it? It's not Edwards . . . Hillary and Obama are spending more in Iowa than Edwards, in fact tons more. Edwards talks to us in Iowa, Hillary shouts at us from her corporate megaphone and tries to bribe us with ice cream treats with Bill.

A better question is whether Hillary has a chastity belt on Bill or when he will be photographed in a Gary Hart pose with another "intern?"

Another good question is whether the Democratic Party will split if Hillary gets the nomination? Or will she embolden a thirty party candidate like Anderson in 1980 or Wallace in 1968 which will split the Democratic vote?

Another good question is how a corporate cash cow like Hillary take money from the overlords AND then punch them in the mouth to benefit American workers and ordinary citizens?

Another good question is how she can take credit for the Clinton Administration and then disclaim the baggage?

[billyoc]

22. After his inauguration. n/t

[high density]

23. When he's ready to start campaigning for the VP slot again NM

[Totally Committed]

25. HOnest and truly, unless something happens to Elizabeth (God forbid),

I see him in for the duration. I think he's doing it as much for her as for himself.

I don't see him dropping out even if EVERY white knight in the wings right now jumps in.

TC

[rufus dog]

27. He seems to be taking a lot of shots against Hillary in the debate

Could be desparation, could be a smart move. IT IS AUGUST, HE IS IN THE TOP TIER, come on, give him at least until January.

[karynnj]

29. If you go back and look at the pundits of late 2003 and early 2004,

you will find that many were speculating when one candidate would drop out of the race - hint: it was not Dean, Gephardt, Edwards, or Clark, who all had media people who thought they could win. Nor was it Sharpton, Kuchinich, or Braum, who no one thought could win - it was John Kerry.

[Clark2008]

56. Well, of course they didn't speculate that Clark would drop out.

That would mean they'd have to mention him.

When Inside Politics fails to even utter his name in 14 straight episodes, one realizes that freezing out candidates is as real as lying about them.

[zulchzulu]

30. Get ready for a wild hayride

I frankly don't think there will be a convincing winner after the huge February 5th primary day...and it's going to be a wild race to the February states to grab victories.

If anything, I think Clinton will meet her Waterloo by South Carolina. Edwards and Obama and perhaps Richardson will be running down the track finish line.

One can hope.

[jaysunb]

34. Yup

I saw this movie in 68 & 72 . Very simular dynamics.

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[jaysunb]

33. I've at DU since it began & I don't think I've ever

seen a post like yours.

WOW !

[billbuckhead]

35. I know Mike Malloy doesn't condone that post.

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[AlCzervik]

36. take that garbage someplace else.

[Colobo]

37. Uncalled for.

[The Gunslinger]

39. self delete

[Jimdish25]

38. When Hillary stops saying "I'm your girl"

...and starts answering some questions in these debates.

[The Gunslinger]

40. When he declares himself "Independent"

And runs with Dennis Kucinich on an independent ticket..

Well I'm free to dream..

[fujiyama]

42. Why should he?

He's still competitive in IA. If he can pull it off this time (he was a strong second last time), he could get the momentum to do well in NH and SC.

But SC is really the ultimate test. If he comes in a distant third, his campaign is pretty much over. SC will be tough for him. Even though I believe he was born there, he faces very stiff competition in Hillary and Obama.

[laugle]

43. A silly poll.....better question would be when is Biden going to drop out? nt

[mrgorth]

44. If he loses bad in IA and NH and not until

This is a dumb question.

[MaineDem]

46. What a silly question

Edwards is in it for the long haul.

[flaminbats]

58. just like 2004..

if he loses in South Carolina he might dropout. but I think he's in the primary battles until the end, whether he wins or loses.

[last_texas_dem]

47. I can imagine a scenario

where he could become the front-runner, and I don't think I'm that wild of a dreamer. The media is already trying to turn this primary into a two-person race (and in some cases, a one-person race) and I just don't believe this is the case. Strong showings in the early primaries could turn any of the Democratic candidates into contenders for the nomination. If Edwards does drop out, it will be due to a weaker-than-expected performance in some of the early primaries/caucuses, but I think the same would be true of any of the candidates- unless they decide to stay in as a "protest" candidate, as I think it could be argued that Kucinich did in 2004.

[leez34]

49. -

I love Edwards, and I will vote for him in my meaningless WI primary. However, I took the poll as a "what if?" scenario. I think if he loses IA, it's over. If he wins IA, it's showtime. Simple as that. So I voted for "when he loses Iowa."

[MaineDem]

52. Why do you not include a subject?

Just curious.

[leez34]

54. -

I've never posted at a message board that required subjects on posts within a topic before. I find it incredibly annoying to have to read both the subject and the body - much easier to adjust my eyes to one area of the screen. So I'm taking a silent stand, even if I'm the only one who cares.

[MaineDem]

57. Especially in a long thread a subject line helps

And in many cases, a subject line is all that's needed. Notice the n/t and eom at the end of some lines.

And those other message boards at which you've posted haven't been DU. :shrug: Whatever.

[jaysunb]

59. welcome to DU

:hi:

[Freddie Stubbs]

50. After he loses Super-Duper Tuesday (February 5)

[Adelante]

51. If anything, should he lose Iowa

But he's not known for dropping out early. I think he would keep on ticking.

[coco77]

53. Soon I hope...

[SharonRB]

55. There's no way he would accept #2 again

[Exultant Democracy]

61. OK, I'm not an Edwards supporter but your question is nuts

Chances are that he sticks in till the end just like he did before, unless he gets creamed. While the polls are moving one way right now the polls in NV NH SC and IA are in a whole different world from the national numbers and we all saw with Dean how much of a difference one tiny state with a handful of electors can do to a campaign.

[Little Star]

62. When Hell Freezes Over

and maybe longer than that. The media is trying to spoon feed us Clinton & Obama. I Don't think it is going to work.

Go Johnny GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[David Zephyr]

63. He's still ahead in Iowa which is nothing to sneeze at.

John Edwards must win Iowa and South Carolina to perform well in Nevada. At this time, he is still running strong in all of the polls in those early states.

He's not my choice, but he has clearly positioned himself to win or show well in the early contests and that is very smart on his part.

Hillary and Obama will play well in the big TV primaries where money is everything. But those follow the early ones where Edwards is showing well.

To answer you question, if he loses Iowa and then does poorly in New Hampshire, I doubt that he will perform well in South Carolina, even though it is where he was born.

On the other hand, should he win Iowa, show well in New Hampshire, he will win the South Carolina primary and then probably win Nevada where he is working hard, too. Showing well in those four states will put Obama in a bind for the big TV states. However, all the polls I see continue to show Edwards losing ground across the board. If that continues, his support in Iowa will also drop.

[jaysunb]

66. You have a good read on the whole of it...

I just don't think he'll get enough votes in Iowa to go much further. I'm hoping he'll bow out and be a candidate for a cabinet position. I'd really like to see him in some sort of leadership position....

:hi: hope you're well.

[calteacherguy]

64. Although I agree with your assessment of Edwards almost non-existent chances

this is a little mean-spirited. I mean, the Edwards folks have feelings, and I understand that. This kind of post just feeds resentment and bad feelings among fellow Democrats.

Not that I haven't been guilty of such posts at one time or another, but still.

[jaysunb]

65. you're probably right...

I didn't think it through enough. I sometimes forget how people get emotionally attachted to candidates.