Chinese 'Nader' uses detective's flair to expose products

[LoZoccolo]

BEIJING -- The rest of the world is just beginning to catch up, but Wang Hai has been sounding the alarm over hazardous and shoddy Chinese products for the past 12 years.

Mr. Wang, the most celebrated consumer-rights advocate in China, knows more than anyone about the web of corruption that protects many Chinese companies from prosecution when they cheat their customers.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070723.WANG23/TPStory/TPInternational/Asia

It looks like Ralph Nader is even getting surpassed in what he was good at. Maybe he'd have some things to say about shoddy products if he wasn't so busy with these terroristic presidential runs along the Stalin strategy.

[Bonobo]

1. Nader's very name is synonymous with holidng corporations accountable. Thanks!

[LoZoccolo]

4. Not for long because he is getting 0wn3d by Wang Hai.

All the while Nader is doing...what, exactly.

[demnan]

2. As long as he doesn't run for President here

I guess he's ok.

[billyoc]

3. Wang for President!

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[LoZoccolo]

6. Don't EVER call me a FReeper AGAIN. n/t

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[Alexander]

10. How dare you call Nader a "terrorist" and compare him with Joseph Stalin.

I don't have to like Nader to know that you are full of dishonest, meaningless rhetoric.

[LoZoccolo]

11. How dare I? I've explained it several times.

And I would explain it to you if you didn't do it in a fashion that contained accusations against my honesty.

[Alexander]

12. You've "explained" it with MORE dishonesty and MORE meaningless rhetoric.

"And I would explain it to you if you didn't do it in a fashion that contained accusations against my honesty."

If you don't want DUers to question your honesty, maybe you could start by being honest.

[LoZoccolo]

13. What explanation would that be?

I'd be curious as to how you think I'd explain it.

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[Alexander]

16. Using your usual circular logic.

I have already looked up your other threads on the matter.

Sure enough, your reasons for saying Nader is like Stalin and "terroristic" are - because you say so.

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[LoZoccolo]

17. I don't see how my arguments are circular.

To establish that Nader's strategy is similar to Stalin's, I cite a strategy that Stalin advocated, and make a comparison between that and Ralph Nader's strategy.

To establish that Nader's actions are terroristic, I use an abstract definition of terrorism and argue that Nader's presidential runs fit that definition.

I don't think "because I said so" really enters into it. You can argue about my definition of terrorism, or whether or not Nader's actions fit what I compare them to, because I don't argue from my own authority.

[wyldwolf]

15. yeah, if he could he'd run for office and throw the election back to the oppressive regime.