Listen to a Winner! Joe Biden

[Like It Is]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EU7YA-VDSc

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Meh.

Joe MBNA Biden has a lotta 'splainin' to do about that abomination of a bankruptcy bill he was so happy to vote for.

[burythehatchet]

3. "happen to vote for" is putting it rather mildly

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. HAPPY to vote for.

I think he was all for it. Thanks, Joe, for bending us common folks over for the pleasuring of the credit card companies.

[burythehatchet]

2. .

:rofl:

seriously, though. I know he has passion but he really lost me and many like-minded people at the alter of his sacrificing his soul to Visa and MasterCard.

[calteacherguy]

5. His foreign policy ideas are the worst an most misinformed of all the candidates running. nt

[Byronic]

7. Biden?

Worst and most misinformed of all the candidates running?

Yikes

We are through the looking glass here people.

Think I saw a rabbit nip by looking really agitated about the time.

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[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. You're not helping Biden's case very much.

[Jillian]

17. I really have to laugh at people on DU that know better than foreign relations experts!

Some of his supporters:

Former UN Ambassador Richard Holbrooke

Ambassador Dennis Ross, Counselor and Ziegler Distinguished Fellow, The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

Ambassador Richard Haass, President Council on Foreign Relations

Michael O'Hanlon, Senior Fellow, The Brookings Institution

Yahia Said, Director, Iraq Revenue Watch

Ambassador Peter W. Galbraith

Dr. Ted Galen Carpenter, Vice President for Defense and Foreign Policy Studies, CATO Institute].

Walter Russell Mead, Council on Foreign Relations

Anne Marie Slaughter, Dean of Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton University

Eric Leaver, Institute for Policy Studies Research Fellow


Juan Cole, Middle East scholar and prominent blogger

David Phillips, Council on Foreign Relations,

Muwaffaq al-Rubaie, National Security Advisor of Iraq

~~~~~~~and the latest & almost funniest ~~~~~ former Clinton advisor on Foreign Affairs Bob Weiner!

more praise at PlanforIraq.com

[saltpoint]

22. Complete nonsense.

You don't hesitate to smear Democrats, do you?

Hardly an hour on DU goes by without your lambasting one or another Democrat.

Now that you've chosen your candidate, why not dwell on his virtues instead of trashing other people in the party?

Just a suggestion.

[calteacherguy]

6. Seriously...is that you, Joe? I'm really wondering now....nt

[ldf]

9. yes. listen, and listen, and listen, and listen,

and listen, and listen, and listen

the man never shuts up.

he LOVES to hear himself speak.


NACIH (not a chance in hell....)

[Evergreen Emerald]

10. He was wrong about the war funding

and said that a vote to end the funding would hurt the troops. That is a load of bull. He lost my vote when he said that.

[mrigirl]

11. no he wasn't

wrong about the war funding at all. We are already in Iraq- it is our government's repsonsibilty to protect our Armed Forces.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. If they cut the funding, the troops would come home.

Quit the spinning.

[Jillian]

18. bullcrap

You really think the asshole in chief would bring them home?:rofl:

This is why Biden voted for that bill



Biden has been leading the fight for MRAPS that would protect the above from happening.
The MRAPs would save over 70% of lives and injuries.

The funding for those MRAPs was in that bill. Biden has worked his ass off to get the soldiers the better vehicles.
He has even shamed Gates into getting it done.

Biden supports our troops, and as long as there is one soldier on the ground in a war zone, he will do all he can to protect them, until we can get them home.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. That's a load of apologetic hogwash.

Just more spin, spin, spin.

[SaveElmer]

12. I like Biden...always have...

Don't think he will get anywhere, but he is actually running a very good campaign, is an excellent debater, and is making an excellent case for himself as Sec. of State...

[saltpoint]

23. Yes. It would be a shame not to tap his brain for advice on Iraq and

other nations.

We have some relations-repair work to do and Joe Biden ought to be on the team in some capacity.

[jillan]

15. Here is ANOTHER article of support for Biden's plan for Iraq = from the Nation

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070730/baker

there is one path worth exploring. Leslie Gelb, president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, proposed partition shortly after the war began. Senator Joe Biden proposed a soft partition about a year ago. The Fund for Peace advocated a "managed partition" last year. Whatever we call it, separating the main ethnic-religious groups is now being considered seriously in the debate over the merits of "hard" (complete sovereignty for three states) versus "soft" (loose confederation) partition. What is important is that a carefully "managed partition" could reduce the ethno-sectarian violence and allow a reduction in the presence of foreign troops.

One version of a managed partition is a European-style "Union of Iraqi States" whose three component parts would have political independence but be linked economically, like the European Union. This would ensure that none of the major ethnic-religious groups would be dominated by any other, as each would have its own government and security forces. However, if they are linked in a larger economic entity, they will enjoy free trade and commerce and an attractive environment for international investment, and will endorse common principles such as protection of minority rights and free movement of labor and capital. The critical question of sharing oil revenues that is currently dividing the country could be resolved by an equitable formula negotiated with, and enforced by, the international community that would provide each state with a guaranteed share of the income based on criteria used in other oil-producing states such as need, population and derivation.


Read the rest at the link

[SaveElmer]

16. Are you back on the Biden bandwagon...

Thought you had gotten off after the Iraq war funding vote? Could have the wrong person...

I think some version of Biden's plan is what we will end up with eventually...it is the plan that most closely resembles the divisions within Iraq...which is an artificial construct in any case...

[Pastiche423]

20. A winner?

A winner of what?

Clarence Thomas
The IWR vote
The bankruptcy bill
Plagiarism

Was it one of the above?

[saltpoint]

21. I feel that Biden is going to make serious inroads into late summer and

fall's campaign season.

I think his numbers will rise and his support will deepen.

He's a good man.