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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:04 AM
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Gonzales announced that Miers need not appear in response to the congressional subpoena. Doubtful that Elliot would enforce a contempt citation by Congress.

Cherminsky on Jon Elliot's show states he doubts that Congress has the votes to impeach Gonzales.

Has our Constitution failed us? Are we unable to stop the corruption and lies in the executive? What shall we do to reinstate a legitimate government in a peaceful manner?
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:12 AM
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1. Don't blame our Constitution
Blame the people who voted for Repubs.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:52 AM
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3. The Constitution does not have a provision that allows
the people to recall a corrupt government. Maybe we should amend the Constitution to permit the majority of voters to censure or even recall a member of congress, the president or vice president for corruption. California, after all, recalled its governor just a few years ago. Why cannot that be done at the federal level. It would go a long way to keep federal elected officials honest. Just an idea.

We are in a terrible situation. The worse things get for Bush, the more stubborn and angry he becomes. He never had very good judgment. Now that he is under pressure, it is just getting worse. He was never very honest. Now that he is under pressure, he is not only spewing out new lies but lying to protect his past lies. He has never been very open. He has become dangerously secretive, and we do not know what delusions are protected by his excessive secretiveness.

We have not seen the entire scope of the financial corruption of the Bush government -- the contracts awarded without a bidding process, the offices awarded to important donors and their proteges, the corporate drafting of regulations. It just goes on and on.

We have a serious problem. And the Constitution does not provide a remedy for it. A broad sector of the American public strongly disapproves of Bush's performance and of his war. It is evident to rational people that he lost his war in Iraq. Now we are learning that he also has lost the fight against the Al Qaeda terrorists. Although most people are very unhappy with Bush, we are caught and must wait over a year before he leaves. Meanwhile, our country is in a downward tailspin in many respects. We have not yet reached the catastrophic stage, but we are not far from it.

By catastrophic stage, I mean the occurrence of a series of different kinds of crises occurring within a relatively short period of time including possibly, for example, a massive failure in Iraq, a major natural disaster here at home and a serious deterioration in the value of the dollar. The Bush administration has not been able to handle just one of these kinds of events occurring at a time. It would just disintegrate if several such things happened in a very short time.

Bush has so alienated the Democrats in Congress, to say nothing of most ordinary people outside D.C. that he cannot rely on their support in case of a crisis. Should things go very wrong, and based on what we have seen in the past few years, that is not all that unlikely Bush will have only a relatively small number of competent loyalists to rely on.

A lot of comments have been made about the youth of a number of individuals in high positions in the Bush administration. That suggests to me that more mature Republicans may be unwilling to work in Bush's administration or to follow Bush's instructions with regard to their work or are viewed as potential threats of some sort. It is possible that Bush fears or has learned that older, more experienced people do not "obey" or respect Bush as much as Bush would like. Experience does not necessarily make one more efficient, but experience does educate the judgment.

I would feel sorry for Bush were he not so dangerous and arrogant.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:39 AM
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2. Of COURSE there are insufficient votes at this time to get Gonzo gonzo
I want to, one more time, repeat what I have said here a hundred times or more. There are TWENTY TWO very VULNERABLE GOP Senate seats up for grabs in 2008. This is why you're seeing a GOP exodus of 'Senators Who Just Happen to Be Running For Reelection' on the issue of Iraq.

Anyone who lives in the state of those Senators, start hitting the phone, the postcard (not a letter--they go to the black hole) and the email and even the fax--about the war, AND about Gonzo.

WE've barely scratched the "Egregious Behavior at Justice" surface, I suspect. The more testimony, the more information....minds can be changed, with evidence and testimony...
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