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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:31 AM
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Clark Supporters on the official Dean Blog vs Dean Supporters
on the Official Clark Blog :

From the Clark supporters on the official Dean Blog :

"George Bush and Karl Rove are praying for Dean to win the nomination. They will win 40 states against Dean!

They are terrified of running against General Wesley Clark and his vision of a New American Patriotism.

Come on over to WW.CLARK.04.COM. Every day we get more and more former deanies who are coming aboard the General's campaign.

GENERAL WESLEY CLARK--THE ONLY DEMOCRAT WHO CAN DEFEAT BU$H.
Posted by former deanie at December 28, 2003 01:01 AM "

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Many former *D supporters have a variety of mental problems.

Get cured at WW.CLARK04.COM


Posted by former DEANIAC at December 28, 2003 01:16 AM

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Howard Dean--Physician Assisted Suicide for the Democratic Party.

Wes Clark---will defeat Bush

WES IS MORE
CLARK IN 04
Posted by former deanie at December 28, 2003 01:05 AM





Dean supporters on the official Clark Blog :

Hello from the Dean Camp (#10 ) (Rated 5.00/1)
by Anonymous on 12/25/2003 11:33:05 PM EST
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Merry Christmas to all of you from the Dean camp.  I just want to say that despite the differences, trolls, hate messages, etc. that occur between our two groups (and all the democratic candidate's supporters), that come June when we find out who our nominee is, I will work my butt off for whoever that person is.  Right now I choose to support Dean, but should Clark win the nomination, I will happily donate my time, money, and support. 

For now, i am busy registering voters in my area (16 new democrats today, 1 new republican).  So, get out there no matter who you are and register new democrats, especially those of you in the swing states!!

Best of luck Clarkies!

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Happy Holidays (#12 ) (No rating)
by Anonymous on 12/26/2003 12:51:24 AM EST
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Happy holidays and best wishes from another Deaniac.

We are all working for the same cause. To replace Bush.

May your celebrations and New Year bring you the best of your hopes and dreams.

I have talked to thousands of people and got them involved in the political process this year. I think Clark would be a great candidate.

Steven





Just like DU ! ;-)

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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:33 AM
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1. So clever - Did you add these yourself?
:evilgrin:
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:48 AM
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6. Not me - Are they perhaps your's ? The tone sounds familiar
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:53 AM
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9. Tone? I don't post on Dean blogs except Kos n/t
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 03:54 AM by SahaleArm
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:34 AM
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2. Amazing how you overlooked all of the nasty
postings on the Clark blog by Dean supporters (some who are obviously paid to try to disrupt because they are at it fulltime).
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:38 AM
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3. Unfortunately you can't track other peoples comments
This Dean supporter has be a consistent harasser: http://randomtask2004.forclark.com/
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:39 AM
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4. Do you have any evidence of payment?
and the fact they do it full time doesn't cut it. There are lots of people who have lots of time on their hands. Put up or retract your statement.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:47 AM
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5. Please point them out to me
I went back as far as Dec 22 on what I think is the official Clark blog, at:

http://campaign.forclark.com/

and couldn't find the same sort of trolling that I found on the Dean Blog.

Maybe I missed some in this time frame ? If so, please point them out.

I know not ALL the Clark supporters are like this, but . . .
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:52 AM
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8. You went through every CCN entry or just the general discussion?
Before CCN the campaign had a different blog with plenty of trolling.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:01 AM
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12. I just went back several days >
After seeing the Official Dean blog infested with hateful Pro Clark trolls in today's entries ALONE, I wanted to see if Dean supporters were doing the same on the Clark Blog

I looked through several days of posts on the Clark blog, and unless I missed them, found NO similar posts from Dean supporters.

Please prove me wrong.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:02 AM
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13. Why do I have to disprove two samples? n/t
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:12 AM
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30. Did you set your viewing threshold to 1? n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:51 AM
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7. lol
Why waste your time? Do you honestly think that there's a person on this board who hasn't seen their candidate's blog bombarded by nasty Dean supporters? For months and months and months. The jig is up "Dean supporters". You won't be able to smear Clark the way you have everybody else.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:53 AM
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10. Oh really
so far we have one person who provided proof. Where, oh where is yours? I am sick of hearing how mean we are but then being stiffed when I ask for proof.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:03 AM
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14. You wouldn't believe it
You can't see it. You think his demolishing the Democratic Party is a grand thing. For whatever reasons, you want to believe in the Dean, so you do.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:10 AM
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17. So let me get this straight
You refuse to show me evidence and then bitch me out for not seeing it. Is that pretty much right? If these messages are as numerous as you claim then how hard is it for you to get up of your butt and show them to me? I am so sick of being accused of everything under the sun and having no proof presented. So one last time, either show me these evil messages or retract your statement.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:17 AM
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18. Trolls, Trolls, and more Trolls...
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 05:10 AM by SahaleArm
Trolls posing as Clark supporters? That's low: http://blog.johnkerry.com/blog/archives/000930.html

Adding a :)
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:32 AM
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22. I see no proof
that the Clark supporting troll is a Dean person. It is late so I may have missed it. Cut and paste it and I will look at it later.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:03 AM
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27. The Kerry blog is a mess with half the stuff moderated out...
Maybe they're just responding to themselves.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:05 AM
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28. I did find it very difficult to follow to say the least
but I also have problems with the Dean log in that regard. I will look at it when I get some sleep.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:25 AM
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20. Every single day
The Kerry blog has always been filled with Dean people, every hour of every day.

All this horrible news for the Dean campaign has got me so upset .I'm shaking so bad its hard to sign this months check made out to DEAN FOR AMERICA.

Posted by keith at December 28, 2003 01:09 AM

Question... Did John Kerry loan 6 million or one million to his campaign? There are many different reports about it- it was unclear to me.
Brandon

Posted by Brandondean at December 27, 2003 09:44 PM

*** It will come down to backbone ***

Then anyone who didn't have the guts to oppose the resolution authorizing Bush to attack Iraq, and anyone who is so gullible as to believe that capturing Saddam made America safer, has no chance at all.

Posted by asdfasdfasdf at December 28, 2003 01:41 AM

If Senator Kerry is betting his house on this election, he better start packing....

Posted by mibwilso at December 26, 2003 11:52 PM
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:31 AM
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21. You provide two posts and no links
but fair enough you found one.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:42 AM
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23. It's the Kerry blog
:eyes: That's what the hell we're talking about here, right?

You don't know how to get to the Kerry blog? I know how to get to the Dean blog, and Edwards, Clark, Lieberman... I try to stay informed about ALL of our candidates.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:48 AM
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24. So they post 'every day' on the Kerry Blog
But haven't posted on the Clark blog in the period ( 6 days ) that I looked ?

Odd
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:50 AM
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25. Your point? n/t
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:53 AM
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26. LOL ! See your own post, #7
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:38 AM
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32. They're lucky or they delete
I've seen Dean stuff there before. It's usually the worst when something particularly threatening is said in the media. Visit Edwards' blog. Here, Joe's blog, most recent entry, almost right off the bat. It happens all the time. It's no secret, except to Dean supporters I guess.

http://www.blogforjoe.com/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=59
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:07 AM
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29. frankly no I don't
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 05:10 AM by dsc
and when I post stuff I post links I don't find myself too lazy to do so and then lecture people when I don't. There are many ways John Kerry and Blog can be combined and I shouldn't have to try all the iterations due to your being lazy.

On edit It should also be noted that depending on how the blog works the comments could be literally anywhere on the Kerry site. I would have no clue how the site is organized. Oh one last thing. I am going to bed now but why don't you try me on being informed. PM me with 5 reasonable questions on Kerry and I will get back to you within an hour of posting my first post here in the morning.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:34 AM
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31. I made it all up
That's the implication. Why would I do that? And why DON'T you know how to get every candidate's blog???

And it's easy to find Dean shit on the Kerry blog. Click any entry, scroll down 5 or 6 posts, and there one will be. Any hour of any day. I guarantee you.
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eileen from OH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:58 AM
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11. Jeebus "W" Christ
I'm a Dean supporter, okay? Do me a favor and not quote Clark supporter posts AND Dean supporter posts from either blog, cherry picking along the way. You aint' doin' either guy a favor, and while I ain't thrilled by Clark, I get embarrassed as shit by postings that seem to present Dean supporters as the Constant Victim.

If we wanna know how Clark VS Dean stacks up, we know where the websites are, we can check out the most outrageous from both, and make up our minds all on our ownsome.

eileen from OH

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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:04 AM
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15. Go look for YOURSELF
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:07 AM
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16. WHO CARES!
Does Clark have rabid supporters? Yes. Does Dean have rabid supporters? Yes. Does CMB have rabid supporters, Yes.

Mental illness affects 15% of the population. Of course there are going to be some whack jobs that get out of control.

What does this have to do with the nominating process? Nothing.

Now, if you let the wackos drag you down in the mud with 'em, it's your own damn fault.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:48 AM
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33. seriously mouse...
this place is gettin absurd...maybe the republicans are right...maybe we are going to lose with people acting like this...

Come on Children...play nice...
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:08 AM
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34. I doubt that many of the "Clark supporters" on the Dean blog, or "Dean"
supporters on the Kerry blog, etc., are actually who they claim they are. Don't assume trolls are honest -- and many of these people are probably just trolls, looking to disrupt. They also might be trying to make the candidate they claim to support look bad.

(Some of these posts, I'm sure, are genuine, but since there's no password-protected usernames, no public IP tracking, anyone can post as anyone and say anything, and, barring obscenity or outright spamming, not get deleted.)

It also wouldn't surpise me if some of the posters were actually Dean supporters, because every time someone trolls the blog with nastiness, people donate to the "Troll Goal."
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