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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:20 AM
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Clintons planned to have eight years each as president, book says
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2584128.ece

Clintons planned to have eight years each as president, book says
By Andrew Buncombe in Washington
Published: 26 May 2007
Bill and Hillary Clinton drew up a secret plan 15 years ago under which each of them would occupy the White House for eight years, according to one of several new books about the leading Democratic candidate for the US presidency.

According to the book - which has been dismissed by Mrs Clinton's aides - even before they were married, the couple had formulated a plan to reinvent the Democratic Party and make it to the White House. That blueprint was updated after Bill Clinton's election victory in 1992, with the proposal that she would run once he had left office.

The claim adds to the perception of the methodical, driven nature of the Clinton campaign for the presidency - a race in which she is currently the front-runner within her party. Taken with other allegations contained in a separate book, it also boosts a widely held belief in political circles, that by the late 1980s, the Clinton marriage had become little more than a mutually-beneficial political arrangement.

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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:23 AM
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1. Remake The Democratic Party = DLC Democrats = A Failed Idea!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:29 AM
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4. You so funny.
NOT!
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:31 AM
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8. Better To Be Right Than Funny
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:01 PM
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15. If only you were right.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:28 AM
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2. Oh brother
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:29 AM
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3. And it has already been proven to be untrue.
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gobblechops Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:32 AM
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5. Boring
who would buy that book even if it was true?reaching for coat strings.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:01 AM
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6. What kind of right wing swift boat type of propaganda is this shit?
Tweety and his band of media whores ate this up on the tweety show.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:23 AM
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7. Carl Bernstein is no right wing nut job.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:53 AM
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10. A short list of books about Hillary!.. So, maybe Bernstein needs the $$$
In 2005 there were at least 3 books attempting to derail Hillary’s senate campaign. This year we have 2 books published already and another 2 books emerging in June. The old zest and verve in anti-Hillary books is gone however. In previous years the authors of these screeds actually believed they would accomplish the destruction of Hillary. Now they just look at the calendar to see how they can profit from her ascension to the White House.

We checked Amazon to see how many books have been published about Hillary. Here is a short list of some books about Hillary Clinton. The long list of Hillary books serves to underline the many years of experience Hillary has as well as how she has prospered under this examination. Few people, let alone political candidates can withstand such minute examination of their lives. Here is a short list of some of the Hillary books we found:

Living History; A Woman In Charge: The Life Of Hillary Rodham Clinton; Hillary Clinton Nude: Naked Ambition, Hillary Clinton and America’s Demise; The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy’s Dossier On Hillary Clinton; The Case for Hillary Clinton; The Case Against Hillary Clinton; The First Partner: Hillary Rodham Clinton; The Seduction of Hillary Rodham; Hillary’s Scheme: Inside the Next Clinton’s Ruthless Agenda To Take The White House; It Takes a Village; American Evita: Hillary Clinton’s Path To Power; Dear Socks, Dear Buddy: Kids’ Letters To the First Pets; The Truth About Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She’ll Go To Become President; The Extreme Makeover of Hillary (Rodham) Clinton; The Hunting of the President: The Ten-Year Campaign To Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton; Historia Viva; Hillary Clinton: The Inside Story: Revised and Updated; Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House; Hillary Rodham Clinton: Polarizing First Lady (Modern First Ladies); I’ve Always Been a Yankees Fan: Hillary Clinton In Her Own Words; State of a Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton; The Hillary Clinton Voodoo Kit: Stick It to Her, Before She Sticks It to You; Can She Be Stopped?: Hillary Clinton Will Be the Next President of the United States Unless…; Hell To Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton, The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and Sixties Radicals Seized Control of the Democratic Party; Hillary Rodham Clinton: What Every American Should know; The Empress Project; Target: In the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton; Hillary Rodham Clinton; Clinton Websites: Five Official Archived White House Websites from 1993 through 2001; Ron Brown’s Body: How One Man’s Death Saved the Clinton Presidency and Hillary’s Future; Why The Clintons Belong in Prison; Her Way: The Hopes and Ambitions of Hillary Rodham Clinton; Big Sister Is Watching You: Hillary Clinton and the White House Feminists Who Now Control America — And Tell The President What To Do; God and Hillary Clinton: A Spiritual Life; Time Magazine August 28, 2006 - Hillary Clinton; The Unique Voice of Hillary Rodham Clinton: A Portrait In Her Own Words; Hillary Clinton (People In the News); Hillary - America’s First Dictator; 21st Century Guide To the Public Career of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton - Public Papers, Speeches, Work in Congress, Work as First Lady Hillary Clinton In the Clinton Administration, Senate Roll Call Votes (Core Federal Information Series); Clinton Confidential: The Climb To Power: The Unauthorized Biography of Bill and Hillary Clinton; The Rhetoric of First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton: Crisis Management Discourse (Praeger Series In Political Communication); Hillary Clinton; Why Not Hillary?; Hillary Clinton’s Pen Pal: A guide to Life and Lingo in Federal Prison; Unshredded Files of Hillary Clinton; Senator Hillary Clinton Addresses AIPAC; Remarks and commentary by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton — Vital Voices 1997-1999; Pareja de Damas (Hillary Clinton Y Ana Botella, estilos diferentes); Hillary’s Scheme: Hillary Clinton; Mrs. Clintons Czarist Past; Women Need To Be Very Smart About Their Image; Galeria; Biography - Clinton; Como Hillary Clinton; Die First Ladies Der USA Von Martha Washington bis Hillary Clinton; Warning Signs, Hillary Clinton Attempts To Rewrite History; Hillary Clinton - The Inside Story; Sunday Show Wrap-Up Hillary Clinton vs. Barack Obama; Hillary Clinton Und Die Macht Der Frauen; Remarks and Commentary by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Music Advocate; Honorable Hillary Clinton: Where is Village, Who is Child?; Hillary’s Secret War: Hillary Clinton; Hillary Clinton, die Machtigste Frau der Welt; La Double Vie de Hillary Clinton; Hillary Clinton and the Radical Left; Whitewash: What the Media Won’t Tell You About Hillary Clinton, But Conservatives Will; The Hillary Trap: Looking for Power in all the Wrong Places; Rating The First Ladies: The Women Who Influenced the Presidency; Civiliser La Democratie; The Girls In the Van: Covering Hillary; Liberal Fascism: the Totalitarian Temptation from Mussolini to Hillary Clinton; Hillary’s Turn: Inside Her Improbable, Victorious Senate Campaign; What Every American Should Know; Uncovering Clinton: A Reporter’s Story; An Invitation to the White House: At Home With History; Condi vs. Hillary: the Next Great Presidential Race; Everyday Matters: A Love Story; The Person Who Changed My Life: Prominent Americans Recall Their Mentors; Hillary In a Box; The International Human Rights of Women: Instruments of Change; The Clinton Wars; The First Lady: A Comprehensive View of Hillary Rodham Clinton; Hillary Rodham Clinton (Breaking Barriers); Hillary’s Choice; Hillary Rodham Clinton: Profile of a Leading Democrat; Hillary Rodham Clinton: A First Lady For Our Time; Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton (A Yearling Biography); Hillarious: The Wacky Wit, Wisdom and Wonderment of Hillary Rodham Clinton; Hillary’s Secret War: The Clinton Conspiracy to Muzzle Internet Journalists; Hillary Rodham Clinton (Women of Achievement); Hillary Rodham Clinton: Activist First Lady; The Importance of Hillary Rodham Clinton; Hillary Rodham Clinton (Women In Politics); Public Opinion, the First Ladyship, and Hillary Rodham Clinton; Hillary Rodham Clinton: First Lady and Senator; Hillary Rodham Clinton: A New Kind Of First Lady; A Woman In the White House: The Remarkable Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton; Hillary Rodham Clinton (Leading Ladies); Final Report of the Independent Counsel; Meet Hillary Rodham Clinton; Hillary!: How America’s First Woman President Won The White House; We will end this list with that positive and prescient title.

Every year books are written about Hillary Clinton and every year books are written about Abraham Lincoln. Every year these books are touted as “new and revealing”. But every year, after every book is written, one thing remains the same: Abraham Lincoln was a great man; Hillary Clinton is a great woman.

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DemDem07 Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:09 PM
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24. We checked?
Who is we?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:06 PM
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25. "The fact checkers"... is we!
:hi:
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DemDem07 Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:47 PM
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27. Sounds like an orchestrated campaign scenario from here.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:35 PM
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28. So, check Amazon yourself!
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DemDem07 Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 08:21 AM
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31. I don't have a team behind me.
;)
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:18 PM
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34. .....
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:10 PM
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17. Tweety made me sick the way he salivated over this story.
I turned him off...Joe too for he was sure to wallow in the same crap. It was probably one of the first times I turned Tweety off as I'm curious what he has to say...but I just couldn't take it anymore. We all need to write him and complain about his eager and obvious joy to attack Clinton.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:18 PM
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18. I keep abusing my self trying to watch tweety
Every time I do, I just get sick of him and his "balance" (NOT) crowd.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:26 PM
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35. Keep him turned off, AB
I don't watch any of the cable shows, but marvel at the posters who do.

Don't you think it is better to assimilate the info you receive from (written) trusted sources than to allow the confusing thoughts of a paid political operative posing as a journalist's who's job it is to give cred to his deceptive thoughts?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 09:43 AM
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9. OMG they're like evil geniuses and shit!!!!!!
:eyes:
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:25 AM
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11. Good for them. Take that anti-Clintonite book writers. I will NOT be buying
your slanted publication.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:40 AM
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12. Not surprising
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 06:04 PM
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23. Shame, shame on those baddddd Clintons for having a plan!
Those books remind of the same desperation the rethugs had to get Bill, when all they could hang on him was a B.J.!

I don't condone adultery, but they didn't have to drag the country through all that sordid stuff! Kenneth Starr was a pervvvvvv!

In comparison, Bush has done so much more criminal acts and he's still the president.....boogles the mind........
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:41 AM
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13. And just when you thought it couldn't get more stupid.
Let's say they did make plans to be leaders of the country. So what? I honestly wouldn't give a shit if it was uncovered that John McCain or Mitt Romney had plans to be President since they were 8. Good for them. They had a dream and pursued it.

But the insinuation that the Clintons had a secret master plan since the 70's to team up as business partners to redesign the party in their quest for ultimate power is laughable. Though not really that surprising.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:42 AM
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14. Most Americans will believe this by November 2008. Hillary is a loser. (nt)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:04 PM
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16. You mean the way they already know John Edwards is a loser?
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 11:12 PM
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30. What a snarky comment........are you psychic too!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:29 PM
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19. A dynasty like the Bushes
and both equally bad for the people!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:56 PM
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20. Yep the Clinton's are just as bad as the Bush's!
:sarcasm:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:00 PM
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21. It must have really
pissed her off when bill deviated from their plan and DNAed all over the fucking blue dress.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:56 PM
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22. I hope that DU is not going to countenance this tripe by Bernstein.
He has once again stepped into a pile of it. For one who had such a stellar reputation, he certainly has proven a big, fat leech on the government of W teat.
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doggyboy Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:21 PM
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26. Thank you babs
As a new user, it's going to take some time for me to seperate the wheat from the chaff when it comes to posters here on DU. I'm grateful for making the job a little bit easier.

So what does Bill O'Reilly think of all this?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:43 PM
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29. Seriously, most of this is really irrelevant.
They both planned on running for president almost 20 years ago? So what? She's always been politically active. I don't think it's any secret she's been ambitious. And frankly, I don't see why I should be concerned about that. And the state of their marriage is not really anyone's business anyways.

The only thing that I did find interesting is the following:

"The book also questions whether Mrs Clinton read the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iraq before voting to authorise war - a vote that has caused her considerable political problems ever since.

A spokesman for Mrs Clinton said that she was "briefed multiple times" on the intelligence regarding Iraq, including being briefed on the NIE. The comment appeared to confirm she had not personally read the document, which contained a number of caveats from elements of the intelligence community who were less than certain as to whether Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction."

But the way it's just tossed in the article is bizarre. Plus, am I mistaken in having heard that the Independent is conservatively biased?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:34 AM
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32. I'm no longer a fan of either Clinton...but this is ridiculous....More spin
and witchhunting with insinuation against them. Their policies are why I disagree with them..not their ambition, fgs! Sheesh using the Clinton's for book sales. They are a whole industry now.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:56 AM
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33. oh my god! A secret plan to be president!
which involved such nefarious activities as "running for office." Shame on them!

:eyes:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 02:34 PM
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36. Not to be compared to the Bush's PNAC Plan compiled in the 80's..
The American Dream vs America's dominance by a despot?
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