Straight Talk: Paul Has a Point

[CGowen]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274174,00.html

The reaction to the showdown between Rep. Ron Paul and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani has been fascinating. Paul suggested that the recent history of U.S. foreign policy endeavors overseas may have had something to do with terrorists' willingness to come to America, live here for several months, then give their lives to kill as many Americans as possible.

Perhaps, Paul suggested, the 15-year presence of the U.S. military forces in Muslim countries may have motivated them. For that, Giuliani excoriated him, calling it an "extraordinary statement," adding, "I don't think I've heard that before."

Let's be blunt. Giuliani was either lying, or he hasn't cracked a book in six years.

The "blowback" theory isn't some fringe idea common only to crazy Sept. 11 conspiracy theorists. It doesn't suggest that we "deserved" the Sept. 11 attacks, nor does it suggest we shouldn't have retaliated against the people who waged them.

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But let's get back to Rep. Paul. After last week's debate, reaction to Paul from pro-war types was swift and severe. The head of the Michigan GOP demanded he be excluded from future debates.

Several activists have called for him to be purged from the Republican Party (given what the GOP stands for these days, perhaps that's not such a bad idea). One former staffer declared Paul an "embarrassment" and announced he'd challenge Paul for his seat in Congress.

This is all patently absurd.

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It's striking just how right people who think like Ron Paul were before the war, and how incredibly wrong those now pilling on him were. And yet Paul Wolfowitz was promoted to head the World Bank; Dick Cheney is still vice president; and Mitch Daniels is the governor of Indiana.

The people who were wrong were rewarded. And they go right on mocking the people who were right.

[DFW]

1. Par for the course

If facts had been allowed a higher piority than right-wing fiction,
then Rep. Paul would have been left to debate with himself at the
Republican debates. All others would have been disqualified.

If the institutionalizing of the certifiably delusional had been
carried out prior to the occasion, their ranks would have been already
drastically thinned.

[Zodiak]

2. Yes this is the paradigm

Those that got us into this mess are the smart ones who know everything. and they are rewarded for it with positions of power and access to a microphone to speak for the entire party.

Those that were right all along are unrealistic and naive. They have the microphone ripped away from them.

It is going on on BOTH sides of the aisle. Antiwar Republicans and Democrats are told to shut up while the "adults" who got us into this mess in the first place drag their feet getting us out.

[EST]

3. He (Paul) is, no doubt, an embarrassment to the pukeliker party,

although how they could be embarrassed by anything after not being a bit embarrassed by the moron with the mojo in the white house is difficult to comprehend. Of course, a certain professor at a Colorado college promulgated basically the same thing and his reasoning was too esoteric for almost everybody. He was roundly scorned and scolded from all quarters, even death threats were all too common.

I do not expect sound reasoning and penetrating insight from anyone in any party, at this point, so watching the pooplickers eating one of their own, while frustrating, is little more than political theater.

[Javaman]

4. Paul is a libertarian, enough said...

He likes to wear the crown of a repuke but he's a down the line libertarian.

He likes to talk a big game, in fact he loves to hear himself talk, but like most libertarians, other than getting out of Iraq and legalizing pot, he's a complete and utter nut job.

Yeah straight talk. I recall a candidate that used that same line of bullshit as a profile in 2000 to get himself* appointed to prez. And look where that got us.

I don't want to have a beer with the prez, I don't want a regular guy, I don't want what the media call a straight talker, I just want someone to do their fucking job. I want a fucking genius, a guy that thinks globally and acts locally, a person that has a clue and doesn't chew with his mouth open, I want a person who I can say, "he's not a fucking embarrassment".

cut the crap on ron paul. get past the bullshit and you will see he's just a big a tool as the other repukes.

check out his voting record if you don't believe me.