I think after the Wisconsin primary Gore will endorse Kerry

[NNN0LHI]

Gore is another Vietnam veteran like General Clark and John Kerry. I do think Gore will give Dean the option of dropping out with dignity first. But if he doesn't I believe he will pull his endorsement of Dean and make the switch to Kerry. Not because he doesn't like Dean, but because Gore is not an idiot. He is able to see the writing on the wall, and wants Bush gone as bad as I do. I may be full of beans, but I don't think so.

Don

[pezcore64]

1. hum

just because he wants bush gone too doesnt mean he hasta sacrifice his personal beliefs and get behind kerry. ITS ONLY THE PRIMARY.
im sure he'll get behind whoever the nominee is.

[Kahuna]

5. I'm sorry but, every thing does not boil down to..

black or white and right or wrong. There are always compromises to be made in life. We compromise from the day we are born. As a professional politician, Gore know that very well. Most adults do.

[pezcore64]

9. right

but why compromise when you dont have to?
why does he HAVE to fall in line?
please explain that to me.

I think Gores political life is close to over, atleast publically speaking, so I dont know what he'd have to fear. Hes already unlike by most clintonians these days.

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[HuskerDem]

29. Just because you've seen it doesn't mean he has

Are you impugning his honesty?

[Kahuna]

39. I never said that Gore has to compromise now....

He doesn't. But, no one should think Gore is a turncoat if and when he does.

[bearfartinthewoods]

38. what is he going to say "it's time to get inline behind the nominee"

again?

[hellhathnofury]

2. "Gore is another Vietnam veteran like General Clark and John Kerry."

So Vietnam trumps everything?

[BurtWorm]

3. It's impossible to know what Gore will do.

His endorsement of Dean was a sign of his evolution from mainstreamer to MoveOn-er. I think Gore has found a new constituency to be comfortable with, and it's a Dean continuency.

[Kahuna]

10. Unfortunately, Gore overestimated the numbers in the..

Dean constituency. Right now that constituency is at about 10% to 15%. To continue to cater to 10% when the other 90% of the democratic base would be very very foolish.

[BurtWorm]

14. I'm suggesting that Gore will not switch endorsements before the

nomination. I would be very surprised--not just disappointed--if he did. He hasn't exactly been a terribly visible Dean supporter. I think he can just sit put and endorse whoever the nominee is at the convention. Switching support before the primaries are over would only call attention to the risk he took for Dean that didn't pay off.

[Professor Hoodoo]

4. No. Dean wins Wisconsin

and wins all the remaining states. Kerry will flounder and die and go back to the hole he came from.

[pezcore64]

8. lol

hopefully someone will fill the hole in this time ;)

[HuskerDem]

Ant little fairies will fly right out o' me arse

The winner of next years Tour de France will be a salmon named Horrace.

[Kahuna]

12. Dean will not win WI.

nt

[MurikanDemocrat]

25. WI - Kerry 53% Edwards 16% Dean 11%

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4239681/

I don't think so.

[WilliamPitt]

41. This one goes to eleven

:)

[w4rma]

6. Maybe. (n/t)

[aquart]

7. You're evidence for this being what?

You're asking Gore to dishonor himself when there is no reason to do so.

He will work for the nominee as we all will.

[NNN0LHI]

21. It was just a hunch this morning but someone just reported something...

...very similar (not exact, but similar) to this scenario a few minutes ago on Hardball.

Don

[Anwen]

11. I think not.

Honestly, I would be shocked if he did. I can't see Gore compromising his beliefs just to tag along with the front-runner.

[WiseMen]

15. Any Source? I know Harkin's group is pressuring Dean to quit.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

16. Unless Gore wants to look even more irrelevant than he does already

he won't endorse Kerry until after Dean drops out.

[goodhue]

18. Yes, and Harkin will likely join him.

[On the Road]

19. Gore Will Wait for Dean to Drop Out

and Dean will wait to see if the intern scandal explodes. If it doesn't, Dean is toast and he knows it. If it does, public opinion can turn on a dime, and it will be Dean vs Edwards.

i don't think Gore will be a turncoat like some of the opportunists in the party. Looks worse for the person changing endorsements than the candidate.

[littlejoe]

20. Al Gore rolled the dice and lost. I think a lot of people

will be relieved if the true president just stays out of things until after the convention.

[stickdog]

22. Why?

Of course he'll support the nominee, but why endorse Kerry before he's got a third of the delegates he needs?

[Renew Deal]

23. I agree with Dole on this one

If Gore calls, don't answer the phone.

[fujiyama]

35. There was a rumor...

that Gore tried calling Gephardt after he dropped out and Gep never answered his calls.

Of course, you know how much credibility lies in rumors.

[dawn]

24. Gore should stick to his convictions.

He shouldn't be made to feel bad for who he endorsed.

If Dean drops out, then fine, but I hope he doesn't do it before.

[MurikanDemocrat]

26. I think Gore pressuring Dean to drop out says it all already

Gore is a Democrat first. He knows the goal of this election is to defeat Bush more than anyone.

Dean said Wisconsin was a make or break state. Kerry is currently leading Dean by 42 points. Gore can read the writing on the wall.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4239681/

[HuskerDem]

27. I beg to differ with you..............

in that I believe that Gore has pretty much proven himself to be, in fact, an idiot.

[argonne]

36. Yes. Gore shifting his support to Lieberman was the last straw! n/t

n/t

[Straight Shooter]

28. This is another sad thread about distilling the goal down to beating bush

Whatever happened to voting for someone because they'll be a great president, because that person will represent those whose voices are always smothered under piles of money?

The Economist wrote, not very long ago, that no election has ever been won as a referendum against someone. Sorry, no link, it was a couple months ago. And what does it say to America, to the world, to offer the new resident in the Oval Office whose best qualification is that people perceived him as "electable" and that "he could beat bush." The lower bush's ratings go, the harder it will be to claim that any great victory was achieved. Maybe bush's ratings will nosedive into the single digits. What sort of achievement is it to beat that? This ABB mantra will be our undoing, whether we win or lose, because it delegitimizes the merits of a Dem winner and it destroys our perceived strength if bush wins.

As for Vietnam, if that's going to be a major pillar of the campaign, it will crumble before it has enough relevance. Rove and company have had 3 years to prepare their defense. They're not stupid, and they knew before any of us that kerry would use this election to launch his bid.

[NNN0LHI]

32. I thought the goal WAS to beat Bush? Silly me I guess

:shrug:

[MurikanDemocrat]

33. You mistakenly assume people don't see BOTH in Kerry

Making a great President and ability to beat Bush are not mutually exclusive.

Kerry wouldn't be perceived as someone who could beat Bush if he didn't have an exemplary set of credentials to go with it. He wouldn't be considered "electable" if voters did not view him qualifed to be President.

Again, it is presumptuous to assume that voters who choose Kerry are doing so because they are uninformed "sheeple" being led around by their noses, and that the only voters with values and principles are those that vote for Dean.

[Kahuna]

40. The "great president" guy left the race on Wednesday.

His name was Wesley Clark. What am I supposed to do now? Keep pining for something that will never happen? No. That is counterproductive. The choices before me now are Kerry or bush because they will be the nominees. Guess who I'm chosing.

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[zoeyfong]

34. Withdrawing an endorsement is pretty low.

Yet more evidence that there is not a single shread of integrity or backbone left in the democratic party. I thought endorsements were supposed to be about who a person thinks the best candidate is; now i see that it is all about getting on the winning side. Does anybody care that these things are observed by the voting public and demonstrate to them that Democratic party stands for nothing but political expediency? Such blatant opportunism does not speak well of the character of the person giving the endorsement, or the character of the democratic party. Some have said that this kind of behavior should be excused on the grounds of 'practicality' and 'realism;' well, i'm as practical and realistic as the next person, but the reality is that actions have consequences, and those consequenses may not be readily apparent in a day or a week. When a party repeatedly chooses self-serving political opportunism over principle, year after year, it undermines that party's ability to attract and maintain loyal supporters. The democratic party ought to control all three branches of government, but instead we have nothing, because short-sighted political opportunism can not sustain a party.

[quaker bill]

37. I think he will wait for Dean to drop out first.

Not that it matters much to me. The entire party establishment, to the last person, can fall in line behind Kerry, I still will not support him.

I have had all the "muscular foriegn policy" I need, ever. Thanks, but no thanks.