Hillary Increases Lead over Obama in Harris Poll

[William769]

According to the latest Harris poll, Hillary Clinton widened her lead over Obama and the rest of the Democratic field. Clinton went up 3 points compared to her April numbers, and Obama fell 5 points. Clinton leads Obama 40 to 27 in the new May poll.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/16/164225/063

[Missy M]

1. Go Hillary!!!!

:toast:

[TwilightGardener]

2. Oh, lordy, come on Obama!

[leveymg]

3. You just posted that at 9:53 am

That followed the same report by WyldWolf at 9:27am.

You guys are really working this one, aren't you?

Duplicate posting is a violation of the rules. Please, don't do that again.

[jefferson_dem]

4. This poll has been posted in probably a dozen threads by Hillary supporters over the past few days.

What a bore. Besides it's an online poll, which are *not to be trusted*.

[still_one]

10. It also included Gore, who got 13%. Why do they include someone not running?

[William769]

5. Are you an Admin?

I know life must really suck for some right now the vitriol has all been in vain so far.

BTW I had not realized it was the same poll. She is doing well in so many, it's hard to keep track of them.

[leveymg]

7. No, but you may be hearing from an Admin.

I don't really care which candidate you're duplicate posting for, it is a rules violation.

[William769]

9. Well then I await his calling.

[Tellurian]

29. ding!

whatever you do, it's fine with me! :)

[SaveElmer]

6. I take it then you admonished those...

That repeatedly posted threads on the Ari Berman hit piece on Hillary in the Nation yesterday...cause the rules are what you are concerned about...right?

[leveymg]

11. I didn't see that.

I might have, if I did.

Doesn't justify the tag-team game you guys are playing. You're too -transparent- obvious in your methods. You should at least wait until the last identical post has scrolled off.

Amateurs. Cheeze.

[William769]

12. speaking of Amateurs...

[leveymg]

13. Yes?

finish your thought. Don't be shy.

[William769]

14. Thought was finished, did it go over your head?

[leveymg]

15. Oh.

How subtle.

[William769]

16. Glad you finally got it.

[Tellurian]

18. Clinton leads 40 to 27 Obama..

I missed this one!

[laugle]

34. What are you

the DU police?? Are you policing the Obama threads too?? I doubt it......

[still_one]

8. Any poll that includes someone who isn't even running is invalid

Please note they have included Gore who received 13% of the vote. Where would those votes go if this were reality?

Also John Edwards, who admitted he screwed up on the IWR, which candidate would his votes go to if he didn't improve?

I suggest the whole thing is a joke until we get closer to the primaries and reality

[Adelante]

24. Without Gore more to Clinton than others

According to this:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/19/194352/968

Averages:

With Gore:

Clinton: 36.5%
Obama: 22.75
Gore: 12.25
Edwards: 12
Richardson: 3.25

Clinton-Obama Margin: 13.75
Also, Obama+Gore = 35%

Without Gore (with shifts in parentheses):

Clinton: 41.25% (+4.75)
Obama: 25.5 (+2.75)
Edwards: 14 (+2)
Richardson: 3.75 (+0.5)
Clinton-Obama Margin: 15.75

[FatDave]

17. I seem to rememer...

I seem to remember Howard Dean polling really well before the first primaries. Like right up until the first primaries. But Iowa decided they wanted John Kerry. And New Hampshire agreed. And after that it was a done deal.

We're still nearly two years out people. Polls are meaningless at this point. Especially nationwide polls. Our electoral process is completely screwy in that it gives an inordinate amount of the choice to a couple of otherwise pretty insignificant states, so national polls are even more worthless. So if you want to look at polls this early out, you'd better weight the hell out of Iowa and New Hampshire.

[gulliver]

19. I'm still not too worried by this.

There's still plenty of time for some sort of sane outcome to the primary. It's always darkest before the dawn, I say.

Edwards is still in the lead in Iowa. He is at least plausible. Of the two rationally unjustified candidacies (Hillary of the "name I got by marriage" and Obama of the "hype") I would take Obama immediately. But in both cases, I would assume a Democratic loss in '08.

Hillary has no business in the race at all as everyone knows. I weep for my party that she was ever even considered as a candidate. Being married to Bill (a good president as it goes) should have disqualified Hillary. It is unethical for her to run. She has seen over these last six years what happens when America elects a president based on the candidate's family name. "If George W. Bush can get into the White House that way, why not me?" she seems to be asking.

Unethical. And why not Jeb next? (Unethical, but that is not a concern in his party.) Let's just keep electing presidents based on nothing.

Hillary is a big, big disappointment. I wish she had lost in her 2000 Senate race.

[William769]

21. Boy are you going to be pissed off come the convention and Mrs. Clinton is our Nominee.

:rofl:

[luckyleftyme2]

23. THE BEST NEWS

THEY ALL BEAT THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES IN A POLL BETWEEN OBAMA AND ALL REPUBLICANS
HE WINS. CLINTON AGAINST ALL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES SHE WINS.EDWARDS AGAINST ALL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES HE WINS.
SO LETS NOT PLAY DIVIDE AND CONQUER,SUPPORT YOUR PERSON BUT DON'T RUN OTHERS DOWN!

[William769]

25. Did you read the Post I responded to?

I thought I was being quite nice after what was posted.

[Tellurian]

27. You can build up credits for DU tactfullness..right? nm

[William769]

28. Well it's safe to assume I would go bankrupt in that department.

[Tellurian]

20. Obama supporters steering clear of this poll too?

[William769]

22. They are avoiding it like the plague! And for good reason.

:rofl:

[Tellurian]

26. I stand corrected.. Clinton 51.2 pts Obama 28.3 pts. Clinton Leads by 22.9 points...

YOWIE!

[thoughtcrime1984]

30. Nah, we're just sick of the parrots squawking incessantly

about insignificant little polls. I'm sure the 5 or 6 of you are gaining all kinds of support for your candidate, though.

[William769]

31. At least we have something to "squawk" about.

[thoughtcrime1984]

33. what, a bunch of worthless polls, 8 months out?

please. I'm not looking forward to President Giuliani, so let's hope for a stronger GE candidate.

[edwardsdefender]

32. Yet, she does the worst against Republicans, which is what should matter to anyone who wants to win

[Brassballs]

35. Can't wait for "madam President"....and inaugural dance with Billy J