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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:47 PM
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This whole Ron Paul thing is hysterical.
Edited on Wed May-16-07 11:50 PM by Bleachers7
Fragile republican minds are on the fritz as they get some contradictory information. You all know what happened in last night's debate. It has created a lot of attention for Ron Paul on the web. Paul indirectly challenged Guiliani and his 9/11 bullshit. Paul said that the US might have played a role in inciting terrorism against us. This isn't really groundbreaking, but it is for the fragile minds of the "republican" party. He rocked their fucking worlds and they can't stand it. It was so simple and so authentic; and they couldn't handle it. The republican party, Fox, and others may choose to ridicule and attempt to marginalize Ron Paul. It's unfair and it's not going to work. The people select the candidates and I think Ron Paul will at minimum become the Howard Dean of this race.

Watch repub hysteria in action: http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/FOX_News_hates_Republ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:52 PM
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1. Sadly, he doesn't have Dean's money...
And at the end of the day, that's what this is all about. Hopefully in the next debate, Paul comes out more fired up and with strong information.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:53 PM
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2. Dean didn't have Dean's money at this point 4 years ago.
It's going to be tougher to compete money wise in this election. BTW, isn't NH the most Libertarian state in the nation? Maybe he can do some damage.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:05 AM
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3. Ron Paul is a congressman from Brazoria County, TX.
South of Houston. Congressman for Freeport/Lake Jackson.
Freeport is where a huge Dow refinery is and Lake Jackson is the company town, 15 miles away.

He's a libertarian who has snuck into Congress under the Republican label.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:16 AM
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4. I hope he continues to agitate the RW base....
He seems to be a Real American character!
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BohemianJordy Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:38 AM
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13. Haha
Yeah I lived in Lake Jackson for about 12 years. Ron Paul is an interesting fellow to say the least. He is a smart guy, but a hardcore libertarian and a strict constituionalist...and I have heard at least, a bit of a conpiracy theorist. Although I think he has alot of good things to say, I don't think that I would necessarily want him as president above any of the other candidates. He's EXTREMELY libertarian (sorry I just really dont like libertarianism), the only reason he runs as a republican is that its the only way he could get elected.

My good friend interned for him for a summer...I could probably ask him about Ron Paul if anyone is interested.

Cheers
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 04:42 AM
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16. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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BohemianJordy Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 05:04 AM
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17. thanks!
I have been here for a couple years, but seldom have important things to say (or for that matter much of all), so I usually stick to reading.

Thanks for the warm welcome!
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:16 AM
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5. I admire Ron Paul
Edited on Thu May-17-07 12:17 AM by antiimperialist
Paul represents the true Lincoln party.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:04 AM
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12. Not hardly - Lincoln would disown him.
ron paul as a good libertarian would consider the Emancipation Proclamation an illegal taking of property.


The enemy of your enemy is NOT always your friend.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:10 PM
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21. True. I like him for splitting the GOP base, but not for Prez. n/t
.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:37 PM
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22. Errrm. No.
Ron Paul has taken the position that had Lincoln drafted and signed the emancipation proclamation BEFORE 1861, the Civil War might have been avoided. He's taken a lot of heat for that position, too.

He's never condoned slavery.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:21 AM
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6. He should get Ru Paul to be his running mate...
Work it, girlfriends! *snaps fingers*
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:30 AM
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7. I haven't laughed very much on DU lately, but...
....GODDAMMIT that was funny!

*tip-o-the-hat*
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:55 AM
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9. Hey, thanks!
I try.

:hi:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:52 AM
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8. Yeah, Paul was screwing with the mythical foundations of Republican post 9/11 reality.
What I found interesting was Guiliani's response to Paul that got all the applause. His statement was factually incorrect, yet the crowd lapped up the rebuttal. That's what they sell...no steak, just the sizzle.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 01:09 AM
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10. Not only was it factually incorrect, but Guiliani lied
about whether he had ever heard the blowback theory before. He admitted to having heard of it after the debate which makes him a big, fat, cross dressing, liar.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:12 AM
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11. "No steak... just the sizzle" ...
Now that's good. No beef, no brocoli. No shit.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:50 AM
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19. selective Republican outrage:
It is not OK to say we helped to cause this by our policies towards the Middle East, but it is perfectly fine to suggest we brought this on ourselves by allowing abortions and not rounding up and shooting all the gays. And which of these seem more logical anyway!?!?!?!
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:42 AM
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14. What a dilemma the Pugs are in....
Paul is probably the only "Republican" that stands a chance of taking crossover votes from the Dems.
If Hollywood Fred chooses not to run, they might as well sit this one out.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 04:33 AM
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15. the best part is he loves to be interviewed on tee-vee
Edited on Thu May-17-07 04:33 AM by AtomicKitten
so there will be plenty of him to go around ...
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:44 AM
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18. This might be the good thing about having this so early
people like Ron Paul and Dennis Kusinich have time to build some support. If Ron Paul makes a splash in the next debate and people start listening to him maybe he can get out of that 1% territory. I happened to catch some Rush yesterday and the only call I heard a guy called in and asked Rush to endorse Ron Paul. If that actually happened, he would certainly have a fighting chance. There's enough wacky libertarian republicans and enough anti-war repubs that he might actually have the support to win the nomination if he can get to be seen as main-stream enough to not just be a waste of a vote. I'd like to see him win and not only because he would be a sitting duck for our nominee.
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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 07:01 AM
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20. Not a Chance ...
Edited on Thu May-17-07 07:01 AM by primative1
The media lined up all last night to do the Howard Dean thing.... They kept pulling Paul's statement out of context and then unanomously proclaimed Rudy as our hero for calling him on his "misstep". Not once did they play Paul's response .... I noticed it started anew this morning with the today show.
This guys worries the establishment. The official 9*11 explanation will stand at all costs, wether or not anyone actualy believes it. Our dem candidates will support this effort, which troubles me because that says a lot about their sincerity in truly ending conflict over there. If one chooses not to live in a peacable manner then how can one truly expect peace.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:41 PM
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24. You just said a brilliant mouthful right there.
:smiles:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:42 PM
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25. Other Republicans can't stand the guy--they know he's
right. He shames them regarding what their party has become.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:40 PM
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23. I'm laughing a bit because Stephanie Miller endorses Paul...
...or at least she did last night. Can you imagine pill-addled-gasbag Rush Limpballs and Goddess Stephanie Miller endorsing the same candidate?

I think that would be a sure sign of the apocalypse.
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