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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:15 PM
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Albertos Harvard Class (82) Places Ad in Washington Post.
by Ioo
Tue May 15, 2007 at 05:22:03 PM PDT

Alberto's Harvard Class of 1982 paid to have an advert in the Washington post today

http://speciousreasoning.com /...

Ioo's diary :: ::




(EDIT) I made the image smaller, click for a fill view.

Here is the text of the letter


Dear Attorney General Gonzales:

Twenty-five years ago we, like you, graduated from Harvard Law School. While we arrived via many different paths and held many different views, we were united in our deep respect for the Constitution and the rights it guaranteed. As members of the post-Watergate generation who chose careers in law, we understood the strong connection between our liberties as Americans and the adherence of public offi cials to the law of the land. We knew that the choice to abide by the law was even more critical when public officials were tempted to take legal shortcuts. Nowhere were we taught that the ends justified the means, or that freedoms for which Americans had fought and died should be set aside when inconvenient or challenging. To the contrary: our most precious freedoms, we learned, need defending most in times of crisis.

So it has been with dismay that we have watched your cavalier handling of our freedoms time and again. When it has been important that legal boundaries hold unbridled government power in check, you have instead used pretextual rationales and strained readings to justify an ever-expanding executive authority. Witness your White House memos sweeping aside the Geneva Conventions to justify torture, endangering our own servicemen and women; witness your advice to the President effectively reading Habeas Corpus out of our constitutional protections; witness your support of presidential statements claiming inherent power to wiretap American citizens without warrants (and the Administrations stepped-up wiretapping campaign, taking advantage of those statements, which continues on your watch to this day); and witness your dismissive explanation of the troubling firings of numerous U.S. Attorneys, and their replacement with others more "loyal" to the Presidents politics, as merely "an overblown personnel matter." In these and other actions, we see a pattern. As a recent editorial put it, your approach has come to symbolize "disdain for the separation of powers, civil liberties and the rule of law."

As lawyers, and as a matter of principle, we can no longer be silent about this Administrations consistent disdain for the liberties we hold dear. Your failure to stand for the rule of law, particularly when faced with a President who makes the aggrandized claim of being a unitary executive, takes this country down a dangerous path.

Your country and your President are in dire need of an attorney who will do the tough job of providing independent counsel, especially when the advice runs counter to political expediency. Now more than ever, our country needs a President, and an Attorney General, who remember the apt observation attributed to Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." We call on you and the President to relent from this reckless path, and begin to restore respect for the rule of law we all learned to love many years ago.

THE SIGNATORIES ARE ALL MEMBERS OF THE HARVARD LAW SCHOOL CLASS OF 1982



http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/15/20236/4328
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:17 PM
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1. Wow... Gonzo is owned by his own class...
It's... sad...
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:20 PM
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5. It is sad that it is necessary but I'm damn glad they did it.
He is a disgrace.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 04:18 PM
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34. Copies should be...
sent to him, Chimpie, dicky, the whole criminal bunch and Congress...Excellent!!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:17 PM
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2. One word ...
Sweet .....
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:19 PM
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3. It is - I love the letter.
Edited on Tue May-15-07 11:27 PM by Pirate Smile
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:20 PM
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4. Powerful and sobering - who would have believed it a year ago K&R
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dogindia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:42 PM
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56. s w e e t
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:22 PM
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6. Recommended. I love it.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 04:54 PM
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35. I'll second that sentiment.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:31 PM
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7. Where's the Bar Association?
they must be awfully embarrassed and ashamed of this whole fiasco/
I hope tp see them stand up for the integrity of their profession.
What little's left.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:33 PM
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9. I've wondered about that, too.
Does the Bar Association seem to have a political leaning these days, either right or left? Or, have they remained neutral?

Are there any Bar Association members on DU?
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Fiatjustitia Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 07:20 AM
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19. D.C. Bar Association...
Edited on Wed May-16-07 07:27 AM by Fiatjustitia
The D.C. Bar Association is an integrated Bar, i.e. a lawyer practicing in the Capitol has to be a member.

Here is a link to the website of the District of Columbia Bar - a search for his name yielded no indication he is a member.

http://www.dcbar.org/
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 03:14 AM
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17. There are literally thousands of different bar associations. Attys. don't have to belong to any
Edited on Wed May-16-07 03:20 AM by Divernan
of them. Lawyers can practise a lifetime without joining a single bar association.

Every county and state has its own bar association. Then there are bar associations, sometimes known as lawyers' guilds focused on ethnic or religious affiliations (the Decalogue Society for Jewish lawyers; the Catholic Lawyers' Guild; associations for Hispanic, Black, Native American lawyers). There is a National Association of Asian Pacific American lawyers, and 50 local state Asian Pacific American bar associations. There are different bar assiciations for defense lawyers, and criminal defense lawyers, family law practitioners and women lawyers. The are bar associations for lawyers focused on energy law, or federal communications law, family law, ad inifinitum. There is an association just for black lawyers working for the Department of Justice.

Bar associations are a network for professional contacts & development. Many laymen think that bar associations are involved in licensing and oversight of lawyers. They are not. There is a complex network of courts in the US, and the individual courts set the standards for admitting individual lawyers to practise within/before them. To practise in any court within a state, one must pass the state's bar examination (yes, nitpickers, there are obscure exceptions, but they also involve having passed SOME state's bar exam, and then being sponsored to appear in another state's court for a limited time/purpose, etc.) The bar exam is administered by the state's Supreme Court, which also sets standards for and monitors compliance with continuing legal education requirements, and annual renewal of licenses. My state's Supreme Court has oversight responsibilities & disciplinary power over the ethical behavior of all lawyers licensed by the state.

Even if one passes the bar of a state, one must still be admitted to the state court, by filling out an application and obtaining sponsorship by another lawyer admitted to practise before that court. There are separate admissions required for state and federal courts, as well as the three levels of federal court (federal district court, circuit appellate court, U.S. Supreme Court).

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:33 PM
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8. K&R Wish they called for their resignations too
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:50 PM
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10. Very delicious. I don't think it will make a difference, but this has to make
Gonzales feel like shit. And it must make the folks who signed this feel like they're doing something GOOD! I think so, too.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:15 AM
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13. Bet he doesn't feel like shit.
Bet he feels that they're prejudiced rich kids who don't like him because he's a successful Latino up from the barrio.
Poor little Alberto! :cry:

:sarcasm:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:25 AM
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16. Or he's doing his leader's work, which is more realistic and scarier. nt
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 07:26 AM
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20. Sieg heil! n/t
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:56 PM
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11. What a beautiful piece of work
the letter puts it so succinctly. All of that needs to be said. We've been had by Neocons.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:13 AM
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12. K&R. Wish we could run this in every paper in the US.
Wish one of them would figure out a way to sue him that would be tantamount to impeaching him.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:19 AM
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14. ouch ...
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:22 AM
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15. I am grateful to these people for speaking up publicly.
Thank you, Harvard Law class of 1982.

:patriot:

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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 03:26 AM
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18. Takes a LOT of courage and professional independence to sign this letter.
Edited on Wed May-16-07 03:29 AM by Divernan
I am sure there are a lot more members of that law school class who would have liked to sign this letter. However, no atty. working for any governmental organization (local, state or federal) can make such a public statement. Similarly, any lawyer working for one of the larger firms (and you can bet that a lot of this class are now at the partner level in some of the biggest national firms) would not be able to sign this because of their firm's client base. The biggest firms represent the biggest corporations - with clients like Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Insurance, etc.

And I can see Rove (or Gonzales) looking up each of these signers to see if they work for some entity upon which Karl can exert political or economic pressure on either the lawyer's firm, or the firm's clients,
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:35 AM
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26. You can bet KKKarl is making his list and checking it twice!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 08:13 AM
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21. There's not much that Harvard has done that has made me feel proud of them,
but, this time I have to admit, they're showing the kind of leadership we sorely need.

No Ivy League should assume too much, anymore. If you produce selfish bastards, then you need to do something to protect your name.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 08:24 AM
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22. Wow. I have high esteem for the Harvard class of 1982.
Gonzales should be disbarred.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 08:48 AM
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23. Beautifully written message to a Bush minion....
much like a Keith Special Comment....smart with zing :D
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:06 AM
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24. Right on, Harvard Law Class of 1982!!
:applause: :applause: :applause:


I haven't thought much about them before, but this makes me respect them A WHOLE LOT! :D
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gillamonster Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:03 AM
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25. K&R
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:24 AM
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27. Gonzales is a traitor to the ethical standards of the legal profession. n/t
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:34 AM
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28. Short & Sweet ... To-The-Point ...True .....
A quick 'eye opener' for those with a short attention span. Recommend passing this letter on to everyone we know. Peace. K&R.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 11:43 AM
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29. K&R
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republikkkon Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:21 PM
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31. awesome
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:15 PM
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30. '...Your failure to stand for the rule of law,
...takes this country down a dangerous path.'...

Amen to that!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 02:56 PM
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32. Why oh why do they hate America?
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leftwingnut Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 04:10 PM
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33. That is fucking great! Thanks for posting.
I probably would never had read it if you had not posted it here.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 05:05 PM
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36. Damn! Two on the list from where I now live: Greenville, SC.
Jeanette Anderson Winn
Greenville, SC

Marshall Winn
Greenville, SC
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 07:55 PM
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43. I know, I thought the same thing
Edited on Wed May-16-07 07:57 PM by Carolina
Greenville, SC is in a more conservative part of the state and a usual mecca for repukes (Bob Jones Univ and all), so the Winns caught my eye.

I, too, am an SC transplant living in Columbia :hi:

edited for typos
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 05:31 PM
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37. Figures he'd be a Harvard man
Mit schadenfreude,

K-A
Yale '85 :P
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 08:28 PM
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45. Yale, you have 41 & 43 to your credit. Don't down Harvard!
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 08:39 PM
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46. 43 went to Harvard *Business School*
they accepted him *after* he'd already proven what a :dunce: he was at Yale.

As to 41, sinister, sure, but not a :dunce:. Made Phi Beta Kappa, in fact. Must be Babs who passed on the :dunce: gene. :eyes:
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:28 PM
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51. Points duly noted. I have lost respect for both of those Ivy League schools
after some of the scum that have come out of them. They have done themselves & their other graduates (such as yourself) no favors in conferring degrees upon the likes of 43 or Gonzo! (ANY school that would confer a degree of ANY sort to *, cannot have any credibility at all. The fool cannot put together a decent sentence!) These schools have simply proven that their highly tauted degrees can in fact be purchased instead of earned. These are the "premier" universities of our nation. They should have held their graduates to a higher standard and not have given into the power of the $ alone. I agree, that 41 is much sharper than his name sake fruit, but he still casts a negative shadow back upon his alma mater.

These neocons have succeeded in debasing everything in our country to $ value alone. This is IMHO one of their worst offenses. ;(
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 05:32 PM
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38. Thank you for posting this!....k&r.....eom

peace~
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 05:51 PM
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39. I knew I recognized a name on there from somewhere...
Gary Fallon:

http://www.hcmp.com/Profiles/gmf.html

Seattle Mortgage Bankers Association; Director, 1992, 1995 to 2000; President, 1998-1999.

Washington Mortgage Lenders Association; Associate Director.

Washington Mortgage Lenders Association/Seattle Mortgage Bankers Association; Current Chairperson, Legal/Legislative Committee.


I recognized this guy as a major advocate for uber "Bankruptsy law" type legislation here in Washington State.

I would've pegged him as a complete reactionary Bushbot - at least a Repuglican - but then I don't know him personally, so what do I know?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 07:40 PM
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42. He caught my eye as well. I think that it is likely that he is a conservative at least,
if not a Republican. It just might be that he is one of those that values right and wrong over party affiliation. There are still a few left.

Maybe he is just a good lawyer and argues his clients position regardless of personal feelings.

In any case, he got this one right.


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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 05:56 PM
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40. Gonzo acts like a Regent Law School graduate, not Harvard.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 07:03 PM
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41. Beautiful! But I'm afraid the sentence structure and wording
may be beyond Alberto's understanding!
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 08:26 PM
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44. This is inspiring! Unless he's totally psychopathic, this should put him to shame. nt
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:59 PM
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61. They are all shameless
they never apologize or say they are sorry or act ashamed. They are all psychopaths.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 08:54 PM
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47. This is f'ing great.
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 08:56 PM
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48. I'm Kvelling. I know one of the signatories.
I will have to congratulate her. Very powerful letter.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:37 PM
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54. Tell her how proud we are of her on DU.
:applause:
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Infomaniac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:33 PM
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60. I will.
I am awfully damn proud of her for signing.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:01 PM
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49. Wow. I hope he reads this. It is a stunning letter.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:25 PM
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50. You know what I think...Alberto Gonzales doesn't give a shit what his
...fellow classmates think of his conduct as Attorney General. Gonzales is just another arrogant neocon and is corrupt to the bone marrow! I say fuck him...impeach the bastard.
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:28 PM
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52. Oh my God, there is hope.
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thickerstrings Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:36 PM
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53. The best thing I've read all day.
The reason you're walking funny today, Mr. Attorney General, is that you just got your ass handed to you.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:41 PM
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55. And still, the weasel continues to scratch his
nuts and gnaw at the seeds of democracy... :mad:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:51 PM
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57. Good for them
:)
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 09:53 PM
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58. Probably why Bush prefers Regent grads
Those Harvard lawyers are a bunch of UnAmurikan Terrurists. They can't be counted on to shred the Constitution when The Commander Guy finds it convenient.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 10:08 PM
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59. I hope this letter can (someday) be entered in to (something) as evidence or
Edited on Wed May-16-07 10:12 PM by higher class
testimony. This letter is a keeper.

In thinking about this, if I were writing a history of this administration, I would use this letter as a pivot point for weaving the story and chronology. I would open with it and go back forth and lead up to the decision to write this letter. It should be written long or short, but plain so that it could be required reading in the education system to define what we need to preserve and are/were in danger of losing.

Every day I love my Constituion and Bill of RIghts more. We were making such good progress. Why aren't more people raging in fury at what has been done to it?

Someone - please write a book - write plenty of books.

How a group of 'arrogants' decided to OWN the country and make the rest of us stupid and submissive by marching over us and ripping our privacy and rights away from us with tricks, lies, and thefts.
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