Giuliani wins over all Democrats? What went wrong?

[tomreedtoon]

A quote from Salon's "War Room" section:

It's way too early for polling to mean too much in the 2008 presidential race, and national polls aren't the ones that really matter anyway. But for what it's worth, a national Quinnipiac University poll out this morning provides a look at possible head-to-head matchups: Rudy Giuliani leads Barack Obama 44-41 percent, Hillary Clinton 49-40 percent and Al Gore -- who isn't in the race -- 48-41 percent; John McCain is tied with Obama at 42 percent but leads Clinton 46-41 and Gore 47-41.

How did this happen? Giuliani was supposedly this corrupt, bed-hopping politician that denied the air of New York was poisonous after September 11. How is it this awful choice is beating Democrats hands-down?

[Blue_In_AK]

1. Well, nobody asked ME...

I wouldn't vote for him if he was the only person running.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Reminder: Rudy has not been challenged by anyone including

his challengers in the primary. He doesn't do well when challenged and put on the defensive. Everyone can lose popularity under the right circumstances, case in point, Joe McCarthy.

[Kool Kitty]

6. And I would bet that a lot of people that

have had dealings with Rudy in the past are just waiting to talk to anyonw who will listen. Look, this guy is having a free ride so far, wait 'til the questions start about his marriages, his handling of terrorism after the first Trade Center bombing, his "quality of life" laws, his shady business dealings, his shady friends, etc. A full tub, slopping over, believe me. And what about trying to have the election cancelled so he could stay in office a little longer? Please. He's got a lot to worry about. I just wonder if Chris Matthews is going to kiss him full on the lips tonight.

[BlueStater]

7. Exactly

From what it looks like, he's running a very amateur campaign and is out of his element.

[fooj]

3. QUINNIPIAC POLL...That's how it happened.

[brentspeak]

8. What's wrong with the Quinnipiac polls?

[TwilightGardener]

13. Doesn't Quinnipiac mostly poll in New Jersey?

[rinsd]

17. Actually they are based in CT.

They just happen to be one of the few orgs doing pollig in NJ.

[rinsd]

16. I believe it has to do with Lieberman vs. Lamont.

[AlinPA]

4. Maybe they are not polling right-wing bible-thumping bigoted

Christian fundamentalists.

[flpoljunkie]

5. Quinnipiac University Poll. April 25-May 1, 2007. N=1,166 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 2.9.

Quinnipiac headline:

May 3, 2007 - Obama Runs Best Against GOP Front-Runner Giuliani Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Clinton Still Leads Dem Primary Race

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has a slight 44 - 41 percent lead over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in a possible 2008 presidential face-off, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Giuliani leads former Vice President Al Gore 48 - 41 percent and tops New York Sen. Hillary Clinton 49 - 40 percent.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1055&What=&strArea=;&strTime=120

[samplegirl]

9. Not bad for a drag queen!

Where is media playing it over and over and over the famous dressed Drag Queen Giuliani

[madfloridian]

10. Edwards was leading Giuliani in a couple of polls.

Will have to find them, since Salon failed to mention it. He was the only one leading him.

[madfloridian]

12. I will find the poll at Daily Kos. Edwards was the only one leading Rudi.

Odd Salon left him out. Don't you think?

I wish someone would help me find that poll at Kos from a day or so ago.

Leaving Edwards out of a poll?

[rinsd]

19. Here's the poll, they didn't ask about Edwards

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1055&What=&strArea=

[madfloridian]

21. There was a Kos post with Edwards the only one leading Rudi.

I don't know which poll. I will have to search via google at Kos.

[rinsd]

22. It was likely the Rasmussen poll

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/match_ups/election_2008_democratic_presidential_matchups

[rinsd]

18. Rasmussen has Edwards ahead of Rudy with Clinton 1pt and Obama 3 pts behind (nt)

[jcrew2001]

30. Edwards wins the easiest in the General Election

nt

[Tejanocrat]

11. They didn't poll the head-to-head with Edwards who regularly does best in head-to-head polls.

[Tejanocrat]

24. Edwards 49%, Giuliani 43%/Edwards 55%, Romney 29%/Edwards 47%, McCain 38%/Edwards 50%, Fred 36%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/match_ups/election_2008_democratic_presidential_matchups

[madfloridian]

26. Thanks, that was the poll I was looking for.

There was another as well, though.

[jcrew2001]

14. Quinnipiac is in CT and is a Northeast Liberals

so of course Rudy wins!

[flyingfysh]

15. read HuffingtonPost.com

It just reported that Guiliani went down 13 points. See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070503/poll-2008-presidential

[Doctor_J]

20. Actually Giuliani IS a corrupt, bed-hopping who traded NY lives for

political points after 9/11. He's also the MSM darling, just like Smirk was 8 years ago. Get ready for 8 more years of the same stuff that we've had since 2000

[Bicoastal]

23. There is no WAY McCain is beating Gore.

I'm sorry, you'll never get me to believe that. Gore has been on fire since the Oscars, while McCain has done one dumb thing after another.

[AX10]

25. Name recognition and 9/11.

Sadly, the media will prop him up just like they did * eight years ago.

Also, I find it hard to believe that McCain can be leading any Democrat, seeing that he has blatently shilled for Dubya.

[madfloridian]

27. Could you give the direct link to Salon?

I have looked there and don't see it.

[madfloridian]

28. Why didn't Salon mention Edwards at all?

That is puzzling.

[skipos]

29. Another day, another poll showing Hillary underperforming in the general election

despite her $$$ and name recognition.

[blitzen]

31. terror terror terror war war war terror terror terror n/t

[w4rma]

32. All except Edwards. Obama and Hillary can't win the general.

Don't waste four to eight years by throwing in our lot with them.

[FrenchieCat]

33. Why do you say this? Cause Edwards is the Southern White Guy?

If not that, what makes Edwards sooooo "electable"? :shrug: