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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 04:45 PM
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Mother Jones talks about Poppa Bush's upcoming event with Sun Myung Moon.
Very good to see some coverage of this...our so-called media that is so-called mainstream has ignored this for many years.

Bush Sr. To Celebrate Rev. Sun Myung MoonAgain

Next month the Washington Times, the conservative newspaper with close ties to every Republican administration since Reagan, celebrates its 25th anniversary. Former President George H.W. Bush will be the headliner.

And the former President deserves the honor. Barbara Bush ought to get a rousing cheer as well. The two of them have been beating the bushes for Reverend Sun Myung Moon for years.

Moon and his Unification Church came to America in the 1970s and quickly plunged into Washington politics. In the 1970s, church officials organized prayer breakfasts and rallies in support of President Richard M. Nixon, dispatched young female members to infiltrate congressional offices and had extensive operational ties with the Korean Central Intelligence Agency as part of the agency's efforts to influence U.S. officials, according to a 1978 report by a House subcommittee, the Washington Post would later report.

Those ties became fodder for the 1976 Koreagate scandal, which centered around the figure of Washington lobbyist Tongsun Park, a man legendary for his lavish parties and gifts of cash in white envelopes. He, too, was long suspected of being connected to Korean intelligence; he was also an influence peddler of great renown, and anywhere from 30 to more than 100 members of congress were said to be under his thumb at the time. Park was never charged with any crime in connection with Koreagate, but last year he was convicted on conspiracy charges for his role in Saddam Husseins United Nations oil-for-food machinations.

In fact here is a picture I found somewhere of Reverend Moon with Richard Nixon long time ago. I never realized he organized rallies in support of Nixon.

I posted some information from John Gorenfeld and Bill Berkowitz with a lot more on the Bush/Moon connection....with ties to Falwell and to Pat Robertson.

Moon waning plus Bush Family in the House of Moon

And of course there must be this picture of Falwell and Moon.

Moon apparently bailed out Falwell's Liberty University.

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 04:46 PM
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1. Sometimes I think Moon is the true puppet master...n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 05:56 PM
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2. Much of the time I agree with you
because so many GOP policies are Moon policies with Moon's stated ends.

I've long been convinced that Stupid's "higher father" and the "god" who tells him what to do is that old conman turned Jebus II, Sun Myung Moon.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:11 PM
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3. The attitudes toward women...
and the right to manipulate their choices in life....I often wonder why that is appearing in our country.

Jeff Sharlett's article Jesus plus Nothing. That group that has world leaders in for prayer and meetings. Many names, one is the Fellowship. I have tried to see connections. Nothing overt.

Our Southern Baptists becoming so rigid in their beliefs about women's rights...Falwell was a influence there.

A lot of loose stuff that doesn't fit together.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 11:21 AM
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5. I should say it doesn't fit together...."yet".
I think it ties together, a lot of it. We just don't know it yet.

Too late to edit, so thought I would clarify. The obsession about women and making them subservient is one of the most noticeable things the last few years.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 06:22 PM
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11. Don't forget Opus Dei and their discrimination against women.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 09:35 PM
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4. James Towey, Alexander Haig...among others.
More from Mother Jones 1999...Haig and Moon

Mother Jones: Haig and Moon

By Ken Silverstein
September/October 1999 Issue

"The early part of 1999 found retired general Alexander Haig in constant motion. In February, he was off to Seoul, South Korea, where he was a VIP at Blessing '99, a Unification Church event at which some 40,000 couples exchanged wedding vows at a sports stadium during a ceremony conducted by Sun Myung Moon himself"

And James Towey previously Bush's director Faith-Based Initiatives attended Moon's World Peace event. Makes one wonder about that program, and about all the others who attend Sun Myung Moon ceremonies.

"September 24, 2003 | Last December, at his three-day God and World Peace event, the Rev. Sun Myung Moon drew a notable slate of political figures, from Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., to Rep. Danny Davis, D-Ill., and, perhaps most notably, James Towey, director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, who offered some respectful opening remarks to Moon's Unification Church faithful. Moon followed, and called for all religions to come together in support of the Bush plan for faith-based initiatives.

...."And in December of last year, Bush appointed David Caprara, a top official for Moon in Washington, to head the War on Poverty program AmeriCorps VISTA. Caprara had been director of Moon's American Family Coalition and was one of the Unification Church's top political operatives.

A former aide to Jack Kemp, Caprara founded a pro-faith policy group called the Empowerment Network. It claimed Sens. Rick Santorum and Joseph Lieberman as leaders, though their names recently disappeared from the site. (Lieberman's spokesperson told Salon the senator had never been formally affiliated with the Empowerment Network; Santorum's office didn't return calls.) The site's Resources Directory section includes links to both Free Teens USA and the Pure Love Alliance -- a now seemingly defunct, openly Moonie entity that was discovered in 2000 to be operating in 61 Chicago public schools before being shut down.

And something to read from a Christianity Today column from 2001. I won't post from it, but it is an interesting read of how church leaders were/are used by Moon.

In Perspective: Why Are Pastors Flying to Moon?

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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 11:29 AM
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Barak Obama once attended a Islamic school!! OMFG!!!

The cynicism and hypocrisy of the MSM will never cease to amaze me. Can you imagine the fury if a liberal got within arms reach of Rev. Moon?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 11:45 AM
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7. And I wonder how the so-called "Christian right" feels about Falwell
and the fact that Reverend Moon helped bail out Liberty University several years ago? Did it come with strings? Would any of the stalwart care?

Dark Side of Rev. Moon: Buying the Right

Reber and Thomas earned Falwell's public gratitude by excusing the Lynchburg, Va., school of about one-half of its $73 million debt. In the late 1980s, that flood of red ink had forced Falwell to abandon his Moral Majority political organization and nearly drowned Liberty University in bankruptcy.

Reber and Thomas came to Falwell's rescue in the nick of time. Their non-profit Christian Heritage Foundation of Forest, Va., snapped up a big chunk of Liberty's debt for $2.5 million, a fraction of its face value. Thousands of small religious investors who had bought church construction bonds through a Texas company were the big losers. But Falwell shed no tears. He told local reporters that the moment was "the greatest single day of financial advantage" in the school's history.

Left unmentioned in the happy sermon was the identity of the bigger guardian angel who had been protecting Falwell's financial interests -- from a distance and without publicity. That secret benefactor was the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, the self-proclaimed South Korean messiah who is controversial with many fundamentalist Christians because of his bizarre Biblical interpretations and his brainwashing tactics that have torn thousands of young people from their families. Moon also has grown harshly anti-American in recent years.

I wonder if they know it or would care if they did know it? :shrug:
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:16 PM
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8. They wouldn 't believe it
I'm imagining my very Republican mother getting the news, and I'm thinking she would simply refuse delivery. She would write it off as "liberal propaganda" and let it go.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 03:50 PM
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10. You mean like when Rep. Danny Davis (D-IL07) actually placed a crown on Moon's head?
Can you imagine the fury if a liberal got within arms reach of Rev. Moon?

Rep. Davis got considerably closer than arm's reach of the "True Parent of All Mankind" :sarcasm: at a bizarre 2004 event held in a Senate office building:

More than a dozen lawmakers attended a congressional reception this year honoring the Rev. Sun Myung Moon in which Moon declared himself the Messiah and said his teachings have helped Hitler and Stalin be "reborn as new persons."

At the March 23 ceremony in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, Rep. Danny K. Davis (D-Ill.) wore white gloves and carried a pillow holding an ornate crown that was placed on Moon's head. The Korean-born businessman and religious leader then delivered a long speech saying he was "sent to Earth . . . to save the world's six billion people. . . . Emperors, kings and presidents . . . have declared to all Heaven and Earth that Reverend Sun Myung Moon is none other than humanity's Savior, Messiah, Returning Lord and True Parent."...

Moon, 85, has been controversial for years. Renowned for officiating at mass weddings, he received an 18-month prison sentence in 1982 for tax fraud and conspiracy to obstruct justice. In a 1997 sermon, he likened homosexuals to "dirty dung-eating dogs."...

But a key organizer -- Archbishop George A. Stallings Jr., pastor of the Imani Temple, an independent African American Catholic congregation in Northeast Washington -- said Moon's prominent role should have surprised no one. He said a March 8 invitation faxed to all lawmakers stated that the "primary program sponsor" would be the "Interreligious and International Federation for World Peace (IIFWP), founded by Rev. Dr. and Mrs. Sun Myung Moon, who will also be recognized that evening for their lifelong work to promote interfaith cooperation and reconciliation." The invitation was signed by Davis and the Rev. Michael Jenkins, as co-chairmen of the IIFWP (USA).

Kinda gives you the creeps, doesn't it? The crown part is bad enough, but "dirty dung-eating dogs"?! :grr:

Meanwhile, guess who's among the few South Koreans with substantive ties to the North? :tinfoilhat:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:59 PM
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9. A pro-war rally of 1000 in 1991 in Iowa....a Moon group partly behind it.
This is an interview and transcript from 1992...The Resurrection of Reverend Moon. It was from Frontline.

"Narrator: On February 9, 1991, in Rapid City, South Dakota, more than a thousand people rallied in support of U.S. troops fighting in the Persian Gulf.

Narrator: The rally was sponsored in part by a group of local veterans.

Kammerer: "About the same time I noticed a billboard on the east side of Rapid City that said Support Our Troops, Join the Freedom March, and on that same sign was the American Freedom Coalition...You know when people buy billboards, it takes money, and local groups, don't spend that kind of money...I get to thinking, 'What is this?' I ask my Congressmen and Senators and they don't tell me. They don't give me the information. So I go to the library and I find some interesting things. The American Freedom Coalition is an extension of the Unification Church Moonies for short."

Bozell again. Hoping folks would not find out who funded the group.

Narrator: Media analyst Brent Bozell is a member of the AFC national policy board.

Bozell: "If it were to come out that what the AFC is doing is being done at the direction of Reverend Moon, it would lose its fifty chapters overnight. That allegation has been out there since the day that AFC was formed and it hasn't stuck because nobody has come up with the smoking gun that he's done it."

Narrator: But Moon's influence over the AFC is underscored by this 1988 letter FRONTLINE obtained from a source who once worked within the Moon Organization. AFC President Robert Grant, writing to Reverend Moon, thanks him for investing heavily and "helping to bring the AFC into being." Grant concludes by telling Moon, "Without your leadership, vision and the support of your devoted followers, the AFC would not exist."

Well, Brent Bozell, the word has been out a while, and the group's website is still there. I guess folks just plain don't care anymore. /
It looks like a Libertarian website now. I don't know how it was listed before.

And their Reason magazine is online. /

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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 10:53 PM
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12. Kick. nt
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 09:26 PM
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13. Kick
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 05:19 PM
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14. Is Unification Church a religion or an intelligence operation?
First a 20-year-old anecdote, a conversation with a highly-placed Right Wing relative.

He accused me of lack of patriotism. I said, "Look, how can you be patriotic? You're supporting the Washington Times, a newspaper that is run by a Korean intelligence agency."

He said: "Well, yeah, they're SOBs, but they're our SOBs."


The anecdote brings up a question I've always had about Moon and the Unification Church. Is it a genuine religion, like the Roman Catholic or Mormon Church, or is it a creation of the South Korean intelligence agencies to ensure perpetual American support for South Korea against China and North Korea?

I've been following the Moonies for years, and I can't cite sources or even remember why, but I always assumed the latter.

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