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Bob Geiger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 01:08 PM
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Biden To Bush: "You're leading us off a cliff. Stop!"


Clearly having had enough of Republican colleagues putting their blind loyalty to George W. Bush ahead of American opinion and the lives of our troops, Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) gave a powerful speech on the Senate floor Wednesday in which he ripped the GOP for their failure to lead and fulfill their duties to our country.

Saying "our troops don’t lose wars, bad polices, bad leadership loses wars," Biden, a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008, let loose during comments before the vote to even open debate on the Democratic proposal to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq by this time next year.

Here's Biden on the Senate's responsibility to the troops:
"They should have the courage to stand up and tell the administration, they have had a God-awful policy, they have put our troops in a position that, in fact, has made it virtually impossible for them to succeed at the outset.

"They deserve a policy. They deserve a plan. There is no plan. We went to war with too few troops, we went to war unnecessarily. We went to war with these men and women ill-equipped, they're coming home ill-served.

"It's about time we have the courage to stand up and say to the president 'Mr. President, you have not only put us in harm's way you have harmed us! You have no policy, Mr. President'

"I'm so tired of hearing on this floor about courage. Have the courage to tell the administration, 'stop this ridiculous policy you have.'"
More Biden on the folly of the Bush-McCain Doctrine of sending yet more troops to Iraq:
"This is a cycle of self-sustaining sectarian violence that 20,000, 30,000, 50,000, 100,000 Americans will not be able to stop. This is ridiculous. There is no plan. I ask the president and everyone else who comes forward with a plan, whether it's 'capping' or 'surging' or whatever they have, what will answer the two-word test? Then what? Then what? Then What?

"What happens after we surge these women and men? And by the way, you say General Patraeus is one who believes… He may be the only one who believes this is a good idea! Virtually nobody else thinks it's a good idea."
And on how Bush is breaking the U.S. military:
"So as long as the president keeps us on this ridiculous path, taking us off a cliff -- I ask my colleagues, does anybody think they're going to be able to sustain keeping American forces in Iraq, at 160,000, for another year and a half? What do you think? What do you think is going to happen in Tennessee, in Delaware, in Illinois?

"Are we gonna break this man and woman's army? What are we gonna do here? How many times are we going to ask those 175,000 to rotate, three, four, five, six, seven times?"
And he ends with what every person in Congress should be saying right now: "Mr. President, you're leading us off a cliff. Stop!"

I haven't always been a fan of Joe Biden's and don’t know that I'll ever quite forgive him for the hideous Bankruptcy bill passed a few years ago, but this is a passionate, long-overdue speech that it's good to hear from a Senate Democrat. It's certainly the way all Democratic candidates for president should be talking.

You can see the full video of Biden's speech at the bottom of this post at BobGeiger.com.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 01:09 PM
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1. And until now, Biden hasn't done SHIT to try and stop it.
I will NEVER forgive Biden for voting to confirm Gonzales... TWICE!

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 01:24 PM
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2. When somebody's leading you over a cliff you don't ASK them to stop, Joe
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 02:26 PM
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6. There is a time....
There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part; you can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 01:48 PM
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3. Don't forget the 100,000 invisible troops
from KBR !
Add that to the 135 to 150 thousand we have now and we are at

Two Hundred Fifty Thousand soldiers on the ground

I don't think that includes the two Naval Battle groups we also have in the area.

IMPEACH THEM ALL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WE the PEOPLE MUST ACT...NOW!!!!!!
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Stanchetalarooni Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 01:59 PM
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4. That IS the plan. Covert as it may be.
These blueblood yahoos are more like pirates working within our system.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 02:25 PM
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5. Wasn't Biden a cheerful conductor in this War Train when it started?
Edited on Wed Mar-14-07 02:27 PM by Tom Joad
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 04:35 PM
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7. I do like the "two word test"
Its long overdue
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