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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 03:50 PM
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Please General Clark! Please be Kerry's running mate!
I always thought that Clark was the only "electable" candidate of the mix. My feelings have changed due to Kerry's primary victories.
Kerry may be electable but IMO having Gen Clark as his VP candidate would make his chances of beating bu$h much better.

1. He's a war hero with foreign policy experience.
2. He's an intellectual and the nation may be seeking someone with a little "brains" in the WH.
3. He's a southerner and with Kerry being a MA liberal,a moderate southerner would balance the ticket superbly.

I liked Clark tremendously and thought that he would do better in the primaries. I also like Kerry. He, like Clark, is an "antibu$h" figure and with the general, the two intellectual war heroes will beat the chimp in Nov.

Pleas general Clark! Please!
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 03:51 PM
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1. Yes! Let us vote for at least one honest man!
nt
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 03:51 PM
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2. Kerry/Clark, Kerry/Edwards, Kerry/Warner
.....these are the strongest tickets we have and no one else but
these three should be considered.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 03:55 PM
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6. Do you think he'd accept a VP offer, though?
I've never been under the impression he's interested in being VP, though it's tough to tell. I know while they're actively campaigning they're not going to say, "I want to be president, but if that doesn't work out, VP would be fine!" I'd love to see him as Kerry's running mate, too.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:14 PM
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14. He said it, but that was to Dean
more than anything.
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 03:52 PM
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3. I'd love to see him as Veep
At least then he'd have a shot at the top job in '12.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 03:53 PM
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4. Clark is the most logical choice and safest in my opinion.....
if Kerry really wants to beat George Bush.

That ticket will make it alot easier to deliver Florida. Especially up here in the Panhandle.
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 03:54 PM
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5. Kerry doesn't deserve him
And neither does this country.
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A J Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:01 PM
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8. I am sick of the "this country doesn't deserve him" garbage!
Edited on Wed Feb-11-04 04:02 PM by A J
Your guy didn't win, and you blame the country? I think we should try to be a little more upbeat here....

I think I and this country will do just fine without Clark, assuming we get Kerry, or Edwards, or Dean, or Sharpton, or Dennis.....

edit: my poor, poor spelling
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:10 PM
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12. Ok, how about
the Democratic party doesn't deserve him? That suit ya better? Actually, don't bother to answer, because I don't really care whether it suits you or not.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:17 PM
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18. Look at why he lost
He lost because Kerry went from 7% nationally to 29% after winning one state and to 49% after winning two states. Do you think most of the new 42% moved to Kerry based on his views or because they saw him on TV for 15 seconds as a winner? Those people don't deserve a president like Clark and they are the reason we have Shrub in the WH right now.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:21 PM
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21. This kind of talk is self-defeating.
It's essentially saying, "America DESERVES another four years of Smirk" -- with a dash of "And I hope you GET THAT, too!" It's not too far removed from "I'll take my little red wagon and go home."

America may not DESERVE The Brightest and The Best, but by God, if we can give it to 'em, we ought to do so.

Bake
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 03:57 PM
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7. maybe not veep
but there's a damn good chance that he could be Kerry's secretary of state. Hey, I'd be happy with that
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:01 PM
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9. I think that would be a dynamite ticket.
Please, General, please run for Veep.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:04 PM
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10. I'd rather see him as Dean's VP, than Kerry's.
:evilgrin:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:05 PM
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11. No
Sec. of State or nothing.

He's not going to be a prop to help get Kerry elected and then twirl his fingers for eight years. The man is 59, incredibly accomplished and has nothing to prove. He's is not VP material.
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LeinesRed Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:23 PM
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23. a sad Clarkie here...
I agree, he won't be a prop but he certainly will be willing to serve his country and the Democratic Party. I think he will do whatever either one needs right now. I think he would take issue with the notion that he is too good for any position or candidate!
I sincerely hope he is the VP nominee.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:32 PM
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28. I've said it before...
VP is a shit job, unless you are young enough to wait your turn or you are playing puppetmaster like Cheney.

Nobody is devoid of ego, certainly not someone as ambitious and accomplished as Clark. Nothing wrong with that. I don't want him to do anything he doesn't want to for "the Party", who treated him like shit anyway.
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Foehammer Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:14 PM
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13. Do VP's make that much of a Difference ?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:15 PM
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15. Historically, no
Edited on Wed Feb-11-04 04:16 PM by incapsulated
It's wishful thinking, mostly. People vote for their choice for President, not VP.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:17 PM
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17. For dems in an election to unseat an incumbent they do.
You need at least one southerner on the ticket to even get consideration from swing voters in the south and sun belt. Just look back at the last few elections.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:19 PM
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20. The last two elections
Had the Presidential candidate as the southerner, not just the VP.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:24 PM
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24. Which proves my point that at least one southerner needs to be...
on the ticket. Look what happened to McGovern.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:29 PM
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27. No, it doesn't
It proves that the Presidential candidate himself needs to be a southerner, right now, to guarantee southern votes.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:16 PM
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16. Kerry wouldn't have the guts to choose him.
I haven't found out exactly why yet, but there are large pockets of the media, not just the right wing hacks, who absolutely loathe Clark. Kerry would want no part of that. Kerry will pick someone safe -- I really think Gephardt will be his guy.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:18 PM
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19. If he was smart
He would steer clear of having a twofer "insider" ticket. Makes for too many good one-liners from the opposition.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:21 PM
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22. JFK loathed LBJ but still chose him as his mate.
He saw the light. The light being that a liberal from MA will not get elected without the balance of a southerner on the ticket.
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LeinesRed Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:26 PM
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25. I think
LBJ was chosen as a means to control him...really
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 04:28 PM
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26. First, those where different times
And LBJ was a master politician who could help them on the ground and behind closed doors. Elections in the south were notoriously corrupt then and Lyndon knew how to work them.

Clark brings nothing to Kerry other than being from Arkansas and stregnthing is mililtary and Foriegn Policy creds.

The real hatred was between LBJ and RFK, btw.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:44 PM
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29. absolutely . . . we need to "load the ticket" . . .
to make it unbeatable . . . they'll be coming after Kerry with everything they have, and having a retired general as his running mate will help deflect some of the crap he's about to receive . . . because the bottom, and indisputable, line is this: when it came time to serve in combat for their country, our guys went, and theirs didn't . . . and there are an awful lot of voters for whom that fact will be very meaningful come November . . .

another consideration involves having two military veterans as the Democratic nominees . . . that doesn't bother me because, in my experience, military people are the one's LEAST likely to get us involved in wars . . . they've seen firsthand what the horrors of war, and they also know that war put their fellow servicemen and women in jeopardy . . . it's the chickenhawks like Bush and Cheney who get us into stupid wars, not military people like Kerry and Clark . . . for those who have been there, war is REALLY the last resort rather than the first option . . .
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 06:46 PM
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30. Kerry/Clark - A bulletproof team.
Clark would make a great VP and we will need two Presidential caliber leaders to tackle all the problems that this junta has wrought on this country.
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