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politmuse1 Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:30 PM
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The Economist endorses AL GORE!
The Economist: America's Next President: Waiting for Al

Quote: "Mr. Gore is the ideal candidate for the Democratic stalwarts who turn out to vote in the primaries. He came out strongly against invading Iraq. He has spent the past six years warning the world about global warming. And he was robbed of victory in 2000."

http://draftgore.com/economist.htm

(Here's the original, but you need subscription: http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=E1_RSQQVRS)
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:32 PM
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1. Beautiful.
My republican father will be surprised. I hope he takes it to heart.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:34 PM
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2. Wow!
:toast:
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:35 PM
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3. Some basic Truth.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:36 PM
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4. Please run, Al!
Please!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:37 PM
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5. ME TOO!!!!
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:38 PM
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I can't take much more of this. The entire (rational) world seems to be begging him to
run (including me).

It's killing me!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:38 PM
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6. Add that to Jimmy Carter's endorsement
President Gore is racking up support ...
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:49 PM
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7. A conservative publication.
He is the guy.

I thought, maybe, cause I live in California I just heard the voices of California (environmental concerned) conservatives - uh huh -

We all have the same picture here. Even if they live in Kansas or whatever.

Gore is the right guy. We all know it. It is like it is instinctive or something.

Joe

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:54 PM
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8. K & R!
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:55 PM
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9. Are they? You're taking stuff out of context aren't you?
Since I don't have a subscription I can't check but I suspect you are & that the Economist is not actually endorsing Gore.
The stuff you quote says "the ideal candidate for the Democratic stalwarts who turn out to vote in the primaries."
That's note exactly an endorsement by the Economist.

Got a quote where they say (or the author of the piece says) we endorse Al Gore for President?
Until you do, I don't take this as an endorsement.

I endorse Gore, by the way.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:56 PM
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10. It's all at the link provided by the OP. NT
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 08:29 PM
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17. Still doesn't look to me like The Economist is endorsing Al Gore
It's just saying that he should step forward and run.
That is not the same thing as an endorsement by the Economist.
The Economist hardly strikes me as being "the Democratic stalwarts."

Plus there strikes me as something a bit odd about citing James Carville of all people in the article.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 10:49 PM
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23. The OP was a bit hyperbolic — but it is a surprising article from The Economist.
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nick303 Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 12:37 AM
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26. I'm not sure why people are so surprised
They did actually endorse Kerry. In the past they have waited for each party to decide their official candidate before making any "real" endorsement.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:25 PM
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39. It's a beautiful 6 paragraphs, but I would not call it an endorsement, either
Ok, for your enjoyment, from 2004:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:42 AM
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31. go to that link in the op and then click on "sign petition"
here is the link to the petition
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/algore2008/

the petition says it all--check it out.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 06:58 PM
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11. K&R!
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:05 PM
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12. No surprise...Real Conservatives HATE Bush and like reasonable environmentalists
What can be more Conservative than conservation, after all?

The Economist was always a standard at our home, along with Scientific American, Smithsonian, Harper's, and Atlantic Monthly, largely because of strong, sane editorial decisions such as this.

PLEASE RUN, AL !!!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:10 PM
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13. Well, a big K&R, of course! (nt)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:13 PM
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14. Thanks for the thread politmuse
Kicked and recommended
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:25 PM
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15. K&R - Gore 08! n/t
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:46 PM
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16. Heres what I would say, if I was Al Gore.......
Show me how much you want me, when I fought to get your votes counted, where were you? Because of your silence, you let them steal our win in 2000 from us, Don't just go around shouting Draft Gore unless you show me first and foremost your plan to see that all votes get counted.

You Watched me fight to get your votes counted in 2000, I would need to see your plan on how you are going to fight, to get my votes counted in 2008, or why should I enter the race,

We can get the votes counted by, fighting the fight together but, I can not get them counted by fighting the fight alone.

If I was Gore my website would be,

Showmeyourplantocountthevotesfirst.com

My 2 cents..
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:36 AM
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35. I share your concern about electoral integrity
But the solution is not to lay down and play dead. The solution is to keep up the pressure for fair and transparent elections - at State level and at national level.

Positive changes are being implemented in many States that will make it harder for votes to be stolen or go "missing". Other States are still vulnerable to fraud or "machine errors".

It's up to "We the people" to continue raising these issues with elected officials, including our members of the US Congress. I know Howard Dean is paying close attention to this issue.
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 06:21 PM
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45. He's not laying down and playing dead.
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 06:22 PM by Casablanca
He's assessing the battlefield before deciding whether the fight is worth it or not.

If the DLC is still calling the shots in the Democratic Party (and it looks like they've still got way too much clout), I hope Gore decides against a Presidential run. The DLC hung Gore out to dry in Nov.-Dec. 2000 and they hung the voters out to dry in Nov. 2004, and Gore is smart enough now to know that putting himself and his integrity in the position of having to rely on the unreliable DLC establishment is the political kiss of death.

If Gore decides not to run, progressives should say "Thank you Mr. Gore for what you've done to help this country and this planet.", and then try to convince Dean to run, while voting every DLC candidate (including Obama and Clinton) out of office so that real candidates have a chance. While fighting for the reality of "counting every vote", as you've mentioned.

If he decides to run, I hope he waits at least a year to announce it. No point in telegraphing punches to the Repugs.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 08:32 PM
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18. Indeed, wow!
Reputable publication
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 08:47 PM
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19. Says it all
Beautifully too! :toast:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 09:05 PM
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20. The "Establishment" endorses Gore
Proof that the current idiots in charge have neither the backing of REAL conservatives nor any segment of centrists or liberals.

What's left are pure RW radicals.

The "backwash", as Colbert puts it so eloquently.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 09:12 PM
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21. Yeah, it's all too true!
But, we know what is truthful, logical, and justifible has no place in the current clime of American Politics(reverse pyschology ;)).
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 10:47 PM
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22. Sorry, they are not endorsing Gore per se. They are pointing out his strengths as a candidate.
However, it's good to see that they are viewing Gore in a positive light. From The Economist, that can perhaps be perceived as tantamount to encouragement for Gore to run. We can only hope they will offer a bona fide endorsement if Gore announces himself as a candidate.

The only reason I can speak to this is because a friend who receives The Economist called me up specifically to discuss this article. He thinks it's a good sign. I hope Gore will take this under serious advisement. :)
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 12:01 AM
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24. That is Hugh!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 12:07 AM
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25. Wow, if the Economist like him
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 12:09 AM by ProudDad
I'm going to have to take another look!

The Economist is one of the house organs of evil...

I think they're just saying Gore would make the "most viable" candidate that the Dems could nominate...

I HOPE they aren't endorsing him in any way.
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Evilismdestroyer07 Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:39 AM
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29. Fill me in
Whats wrong with the Economist?
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:47 AM
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33. They're ass-kissers
appealing to the very rich - especially in the U.S.

You want good economic information:

http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 10:54 AM
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38. For what it's worth, the Economist endorsed Kerry in 2004 n/t
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talkinghead Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 12:44 AM
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27. I don't think this is an endorsement
But it is definitely a realization that he embodies everything the Democrats want right now. I think if the Economist picked their ideal candidate instead of the ideal candidate for the Democrats you would see a different name.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:01 AM
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28. We really do need him to run don't we?
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:33 AM
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30. Well, I have a new respect for that publication. nt
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:43 AM
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32. k&r n/t
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:29 AM
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34. Al Gore is the best person for the job -- period.
Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Visit the following websites:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition! :)

:kick:
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:39 AM
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36. Give me a break.
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 08:47 AM by westerebus
The economist is to the right of the american chamber of commerce. Both view global warming as a for profit making enterprise as long as globalization is not interfered with. They bash Bush not because of the evil he does,but because he appears incompetent in doing it.
What the economist does do very well is give a whole lot of information you won't find in MSM publications on the economic side of politics and policy. Just reading the job offers for senior executive positions around the world gives you an insight into where things are going.
For the record, I voted Gore in 2000. While I'm at it, can we get control of congress in 2008. There are too many big issues still sitting out there. I want a rock solid majority of DEMs in both houses that will do the peoples bidding.
Still way to much BULLSHIT coming from both sides. Get the troops out. OUT NOW!
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 10:40 AM
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37. Gore would get my vote....................
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NobleCynic Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:38 PM
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40. Not quite an endorsement, but it is definitely positive press
I am a long time reader of the economist, they tend to have excellent news coverage. Just take their op-ed work with a grain of salt.

Perhaps they're getting tired of fake fiscal conservatives. Perhaps they're starting to wake up to the massive tragedy of the commons that is our atmosphere.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:08 PM
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41. I always k&r for Gore
Just imagine a ticket with Gore-Clark my fav...Gore-Finegold...Gore-Kucinich...and on and on...the wet dream of the cosmos.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:34 PM
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42. thank god someone sees the worth and the injustice. GO, AL!
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:35 PM
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43. Wow, an elitist magazine mentions Mr. Gore's name
And wanting him to be chairman of the military industrial complex they want to see continue to hum at the expense of the poor... Not an endorsement for Mr. Gore at all... to me, more like a warning. They favor globalization, and if I recall spoke out in favor of Bill Clinton's impeachment, but to my knowledge have said nothing regarding impeaching Bush. Yes, nice "endorsement." I guess some will grasp at anything to try to make this look like something it isn't. Amazing too, because if a publication has to include political speculation in order to "endorse" him, and not endorse the man based on his current work and the man he is who the hell needs them? They like many seem to only be looking out for THEIR future interests.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:42 PM
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44. The Economist was the only publication mentioning the theft. When it happened.
So, that's consistent.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 08:54 PM
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46. kick
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 01:34 AM
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47. So do I.
Edited on Wed Feb-28-07 01:35 AM by calimary
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