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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 06:46 PM
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Naysayers Say What You Want! Gore's Going to Come in ....
and while we all fight over the "frontrunners"...It's going to be a LONG, LONG ROAD...with many Twists and Turns to ELECTION '08.

We have good candidates...BUT..NO CANDIDATE can BEAT GORE FOR CREDIBILITY and OUTSIDE THE BELTWAY with UNDISPUTED GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE. His only "flaw" is that he wasn't a Governor of his State.

The rest is what we have to wait for. But...HE WILL RUN! He's already nixed the dissing of Tippers slap at the Music Industry way back in the 80's where she aligned with Jim Baker's wife on wanting "labels on Tapes" that would allow parents to know what their kids were listening to.

Gore was already given the "Seal of Approval" when Gore presented at the Grammy Awards and he was not only "invited" but got an overwhelming round of applause.

Gore moves on ...putting every diss against him to bed. They can call him Fat..Clueless, Liar, Panderer...they can diss Tipper ...but in the end...He has the MOST EXPERIENCE OF ANY CANDIDATE..

He is going to come in...if he's wanted. If he's not wanted he won't. But, he hasn't decided because he's "watching and waiting."

And....those of us who support him are going to "watch and wait" on our candidates, too. Kucinich looks good and some others have potential ...if they see and hear us out here......
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 06:51 PM
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1. I've never given up hope that he will run.
He's going to kick ass too!

We need President Gore to finally take the office he was elected to in 2000.

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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 06:55 PM
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2. He shouldn't wait too long..
I'm one that has been hoping that Gore would run ever since I heard his speech last January on Martin Luther King Day. I stood in my living room with tears in my eyes over his passion. However, I have recently started to take notice of Barack Obama, who has also recently brought tears to my eyes over his passion. Gore could have jumped in a month ago and I would have been firmly behind him. Now, I already have decided on my candidate. That is just me, of course, but I think his 'watching and waiting' is a huge mistake...maybe even a little bit presumptuous on his part.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:19 PM
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12. Do you happen to have a link to a copy of that speech?
If so, great.. and thanks:hi:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:38 PM
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20. Here ya go...
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 04:50 PM
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36. Yes!!
thanks very much.:toast:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:21 PM
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39. Brilliant speech by a great American. n/t
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:53 PM
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63. Hi, halobeam!
:hi:

Come on over to the Gore group -- we're trying to get more activity there.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 12:33 PM
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32.  but the "watching and waiting" meme is just speculation
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 12:34 PM by RestoreGore
There is no direct quote from him that he is doing that. As a matter of fact, when asked the same question over ten thousand times already he has stated everything from," I have no plans to run" to, "I have no intentions of running to, " I do not see any circumstances where I would run" to, "I miss being able to influence events, but I don't miss politics" to stating this system is "toxic" and "tomfoolery" and that he has fallen out of love with it as it is his "former" occupation. Doesn't sound to me like he really has his heart in anything except what he believes is now most important. Of course, he is just a coy liar playing games to those who keep trying to push his words as nothing more than a diversion, but I believe him and will continue to until he answers the question differently himself if he should ever do that.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:26 PM
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48. coy liar? diversion?
If he intends to seek the nomination, but hates being a candidate (in which he is totally justified), it makes sense that he will deflect questions of running until the very last minute. If he wants to avoid being a candidate as long as he can while keeping a campaign engine running, he can't say he isn't running, nor can he say he is, and to say nothing would create an assumption in the affirmative...
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:50 PM
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62. He should wait until...
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 02:53 PM by WhaTHellsgoingonhere
...the post-2007 huricane season. This global warming thingy is catching on, even with the 'Repubics'. If not common sense, then storm fatigue may be enough to turn Florida blue. Besides, he's getting his message out without having to go through this pre-mature dog-and-pony showcase.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 06:56 PM
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3. Sorry... Gore announced last week he isn't running.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:00 PM
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5. No he didn't
He has yet to make the "I will not be a candidate" statement regarding the 2008 election that he made when he declared he would not run in 2004.

Lots of folks seem to want to put those words in his mouth though. And most of those folks seem to favor someone more fashionable and less experienced.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:40 PM
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16. No one wants him to run more than I do
I swear I saw it last week -- he's not running.

I'll stand corrected that it wasn't an official announcement.

Maybe it as here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17064370/

"Veterans of Al Gore's past are quietly assembling a campaign to draft the former vice president into the 2008 presidential race — despite his repeated statements that he's not running..."
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:38 AM
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27. Those are not
his words. Somebody else is attributing words to him. Wonder why?

Check a recent direct quote (from British not US media) here:

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1078951

You will note that he speaks of his intent. He says he has not completely ruled out the possibility of running at some point in time.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:33 PM
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51. no he didn't n/t
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 06:57 PM
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4. If Gore runs
Gore wins. And me thinks he WILL run....
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:37 AM
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30. Coyote_Bandit, I agree 110%
The Nomination is Gores for the taking, and very likely the White House.


If the People DEMANDED he run, Gore would heed the clarion call, and serve.

Meanwhile hes running right now, on climate crisis. Then Oscar & Nobel BUZZZzzz, All the while the demand that he run aquires more BUZZzzz.

I imagine the BUZzzzz will be a ROAR by August, then Gore wil give a blistering speech, saying nothing about running, but it will ignite a firestorm, the publics demand he run will be unsatiated by September. The unsatiated movement to draft Gore will have reached unprecidented proportions.

There will people in the streets demanding he run, by late summer.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:56 PM
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64. Shout it out, Foger!
I like your spirit. If he definitely weren't going to run he would issue a firm statement and stop all the activity he knows is going on.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:03 PM
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72. What are the 1st 2 caucuses
Iowa & NH,?

IRC if you vote for a candidate who does not get 15% you have to recast your vote.

SOooo if you vote for Dennis Kucinich, Dennis gets 12%, those folks have to revote, & Just who do you think they would pick? Hillary? Nope. Richardson ? No way.

AL GORE.

In a nutshell thats how AL runs away with the nomination from the git go.

I want to organize a large outdoor GORE RALLY this summer in NJ. I have 3 sites in mind, gotta get permits and such.... I am in the NY media market, so any TV coverage is valuable.

I wanna see 5000 people chanting AL.... GORE ..... ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE ...... AL.... GORE


IF we demand he run, who is he, to not serve? RIGHT, PRESIDENT GORE ?
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 07:44 PM
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74. You crack me up, Foger
In the Michigan caucus, we don't revote, but the delegates for those who get less than 15% get allocated to other candidates automatically. Different states have different rules.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:19 AM
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77. NJ has a primary, If Gore is in... it will be over by the time it gets to
Michigan or NJ.

I crack you up, like crackin a car up? CRASH BANG !

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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 10:26 AM
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78. As of now, our caucus is supposed to be Feb. 9
Is Feb. 5 Super Tuesday? If so, I'm pretty pissed that they scheduled our caucus after that. It will be all over by the time we vote.
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ktlyon Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 07:53 AM
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57. and if he is going to run
to get in now means spending more money
ads are being run by candidates already
HRC is spending money and raising lots more
I for one am not really interested in a 2 year campaign
Shouldn't those people that participated in Carson City have been at their offices working to STOP THIS DAMN WAR NOW?

I think they should get a little work down before hitting the trail.
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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:01 PM
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6. wow, this is getting ridiculous
he says he is not running.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:03 PM
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8. Saying
"I have no intention" is something very different from saying "I will not". He has left the door open to run should he chose to do so.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:05 PM
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9. No...he didn't give the "Sherman Answer." He's Non-Denial/Denial...n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:02 PM
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7. Gore/Clark! Gore/Obama! Hell, even Gore/Kucinich!
I'll back Gore any day over any of the current candidates.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:59 PM
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65. Gore/anybody
as long as it doesn't start with "L" and end in "man."

Gore/Feingold
Gore/Clark
Gore/Obama
Gore/Richardson
Gore/Kucinich
Hell....even Gore/Clinton, but that's not gonna happen.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:06 PM
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10. I think he is going to run too.
And he'll win.

Joe
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:19 PM
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11. MY GUT SCREAMS THAT AS WELL!! ..call it intuition or whatever
but i will not commit to work for anyone ..as my gut is screaming Gore will be in it and i am saving myself( ahhh) for him!!

and i am saving my money for him!!

i will work my ass off for him...i am not too happy with the field we have now..

don't flame me ..but i am just not thrilled with anyone else..

if i have to pick... it would be Edwards...but i am holding off..for the time being..

i just believe ..Gore will come forward..he knows we need him..he is a man who was born to serve this nation...

we do need him...he is the best person for the job of cleaning up the shit this administration has done to this once proud nation!!

Please President Gore..run..we need you!!

fly

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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:43 PM
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13. The thing we really should remember - especially after the 2004
"election" - they will cheat and they will fight really dirty.

Gore went thru the muck twice. They have nothing on him.

And frankly - he won. B*sh isn't americas president - he is the Supreme Courts president.

I think he is very smart to wait.

Joe
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:01 PM
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15. Good Points! n/t
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:49 PM
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17. I agree!! 100% ..i think he is brilliant to hold off!! build his purse quietly
with the big bucks folks...then come in when everyone else has been beat to a pulp by the incompetant american media..then he comes in as a white knight going to save us all!!

( from * and ourselves!)

my heart belongs to Gore!!

fly
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 08:58 PM
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18. Exactly so -
They will systematically knock the stuffings out of each other.

I voted for him in 2000 - but it wasn't wholehearted. Is now.

The man is a natural - a fighter. And smart as a whip.

Joe
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:58 PM
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23. That's what I'm thinking
It might be wishful thinking but I'm holding out for some scenario like that. I don't think he needs to throw his hat into the ring right now.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:01 PM
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66. I agree and am doing the same
I will not pick a candidate until I know whether or not he's running for sure, beyond a doubt. No one but him will get my time or money until then.

:hi:

Join up with a Draft Gore meetup near you. They're forming all over the country.

http://draftalgore.meetup.com

And please come and post in the Al Gore for '08 Group.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 07:53 PM
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14. Kucinich can be VP

President Gore will be elected to a second term
all he has to do is run....
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 09:41 PM
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19. One can hope.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:42 PM
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21. the succession of future events
first this:



and then this:

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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-20-07 11:50 PM
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22. Gore would automatically get my support and vote...
And, flame away, I will not vote for Hillary Clinton no mater what...no matter what...
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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 12:21 AM
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24. He will be drafted.....
With campaigning starting so early (too soon), infighting
supporters and those nasty Republics swiftboating...the
only person still viable will be Vice President and Senator
Al Gore! He will have to accept his party's draft! :patriot:

It works for me!
:popcorn:
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:35 AM
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25. He's the only one for
me and my country! If, for some reason he chooses not to run, I will be at a loss as I am not even looking at others until MY President makes his move.

Jenn
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:08 AM
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26. Unless You can Back Up Your Title With Facts
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 07:09 AM by RestoreGore
You know no such thing. Matter of fact, I recently read an account where Al Gore and his family may have been threatened. I had always thought in the back of my mind that was a scenario that was very possible with the evil thugs that we all allowed to take this government from us. What if that is true and it could be proven that Mr. Gore and his family had been threatened? What if you knew that should he decide to run in the military/industrial complex that harm might come to him? Would you all still be sitting out here in your own little worlds harrassing him? What world are some of you living in? Cause I don't think it's the REAL one.

And people who have supported this man for almost TWO DECADES are now NAYSAYERS because we won't join in this harrassment? It is obvious that there is also a LARGE contingent of "cheerleaders" who have absolutely NO comprehension of the abject EVIL in Washington DC right now. So it would really be nice for a change to see these substanceless threads that are merely here to serve a selfish purpose actually show PROOF that this good man would GET ANYWHERE in that TOXIC EVIL system.

The reality is that this planet comes FIRST to him, and he is a good decent man who does NOT deserve to have to put up with threats, harrassment, and constant pulling between people on Internet forums that detracts from the most important aspect of what he is doing...TRYING TO INSPIRE US TO GET UP OFF OUR ASSES AND DO SOMETHING.

HE WAS IN THE GAME already for a quarter of a century. If he truly does not desire to enter it again for whatever reasons to have to deal with all of the toxic BS that is involved with it, then I say leave the man alone. But I suspect that there are still some SO selfish that they don't give a damn about REALITY or what he may be dealing with. All they care about is spouting the same political bs over and over again without ANY substance to it.

I even fear for his safety now, and have seen him with a security detail for the last few times he has spoken. Are you all so naive as to think this is just all fun and games? I don't happen to be one who is here discussing this because I like tit for tat competititon. Apart from the toxicity of this political system which he has also talked about which NEVER gets discussed in threads like this, the people are not ready to take back this country and that is obvious from looking at the current situation in this country being run by SOCIOPATHS who have been given a free license to run it into the ground by the very same people who cry for Al Gore to save them. I say, How dare they.

So again, anyone who is going to continue to spout Run Al Run and he will get in it without fact and without any other discussion but the usual 'cheerleading' serves no purpose in debating what I believe are a myriad of SERIOUS reasons why Al Gore is out here now doing this so bravely. People out here respect this man for doing what he is doing without any political pretense. He is not one of them, and I for one as a supporter of his THANK HIM for doing what he is doing now and I hope he doesn't ever enter this toxic systen again... perhaps however, one day should people finally wake up and see THEIR DUTY to rid this government of the monsters in it we the people might actually deserve Al Gore. We don't now, and he doesn't deserve this pressure on him. He deserves to see us helping him.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:42 AM
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28. Why do you assume if Gore is a Presidential Candidate his work or our work on Environment
would end? What better opportunity would he have to make an even larger impact than to be President where he could clean out the "Sound Science" idiots Bush has installed in his administration and begin to move the US into working as a global partner to promote policies to stop the climate destruction the Bushies have been so blind to.

As far as threats...I imagine he's used to that by now and has taken the proper precautions. His father was a "liberal" back in the days when there were the same threats from those who thought "liberals" were communists. J. Edgar Hoover's FBI was known for "secret, vicious campaigns" against "enemies of the state."

What you are saying is that the "Evil Empire" is so powerful that no one can become President and that only those acceptable to the "EE" will have a chance. That seems very defeatist.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #28
31. Why are you putting words in my mouth?
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 12:17 PM by RestoreGore
Where did I state the work on the environment would end? I will state however, that it would suffer and I am sure of that because I do not believe there is anyone who can now spearhead the grassroots effort out here like he can, and I want him to continue doing that because it is IMPORTANT. And I'm still waiting for proof to show that he would even get as far THERE in four years as he has already OUT HERE in less than a year. Where is the track record? They can't even pass anything on this NOW and it should have already been done! Haven't seen the proof yet so I can only assume people keep using that soundbite just for political purposes.

And I am stating that it may just be threats that could be one reason why he did not run in 2004 and he perhaps believes it is not worth it to do it again. But it is so easy to sit back and treat that nonchalantly when it isn't you. If I had to choose I wouldn't do it either, especially because I love my family and THEY come first. That is REALITY not defeatism, and the main point I was also making is that it would seem that for all of the tough talk by people regarding Bush and his band of thugs that we as a people seem like we are AFRAID to do what is necessary to really take back this country. So why should any good man run for the presidency of this decrepid system when he sees that the people on the whole cannot even take it upon themselves to fulfill their own duty as citizens?

There is nothing defeatist in my attitude. It is realistic and I am actually very positive regarding what he is accomplishing out here. However, I see more cons than pros to his running in this system now and I will continue to voice my opinion on that.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 12:35 PM
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33. You ask in your post: "....why should any good man run for the presidency ....
So why should any good man run for the presidency of this decrepid system when he sees that the people on the whole cannot even take it upon themselves to fulfill their own duty as citizens?

That would seem to me to be very defeatist.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 12:44 PM
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34. But you won't address it, right?
We as a people have failed this country. For you( in general) to ask him to then do that which you won't do yourself to me is the ultimate in selfishness.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:35 PM
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41. Hey...enough already.
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 07:39 PM by fooj
Who the hell are you to project labels like "ultimate in selfishness"??? Wow. That's a bit over the top.

Whether YOU like it or not, many people in this country are YEARNING for an authentic leader. Al Gore IS an authentic leader. This country is in a constitutional crisis. We're in DEEP SHIT. Frankly, I wouldn't wish the next presidency on anyone. WHAT A HORRIBLE MESS!

We as a people have failed this country.

Actually, SCOTUS failed the people of this country. When all of the votes were finally tallied...Gore WON. It's really not fair to be on the attack. Many of us would work our asses off for the man. I know that I would. I wasn't aware of his family being threatened. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. That's horrifying.

Edit: we as a people seem like we are AFRAID to do what is necessary to really take back this country. What do YOU suggest? I'm all ears. Seriously.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. Hey... don't tell me enough
Who are you to think to tell me enough already? And if I have to tell you (again, IN GENERAL) what to do, then I already know it isn't going to be done. And you bet we are in a Constitutional crisis, and that is because we blew it in 2000 as a nation and I won't forget that, so don't you dare tell me enough already. And you say many WOULD work their asses off? Why the conditions? Why does he have to run in order for that to happen? Well, I know why, because his work on this crisis isn't really important from what I have seen from these threads. And I wouldn't wish this mess on him either, and I don't.

And oh yes, many are yearning for an authentic leader...I hear that every day from the mobs of people in the streets calling for it... please, spare me. The number one news stories today were Anna Nicole's mother crying on the stand and Britney Spears baldness. Sorry, but it's going to take more convincing that the people on the whole really give a damn one way or the other about this stolen Democracy, because from where I'm sitting, I'm not seeing it despite all the abuses. That's why Al Gore wrote, "The Assault On Reason," and I can't wait to see how many copies it sells and only wish I could find a way to divide the sales according to those who would buy it because they do long for the days when Democratic dialogue and reason overruled the inanity we have today and know that it can only be by THEM taking on the challenge that we even have a chance to save it, over those just buying it because they think he is going to run and just want a souvenir.

So you ask what we can do? IMPEACH Bush, Cheney, Rice, and the entire lot of the usurpers and war criminals that took our Democracy away from us. Stand up to them instead of just talking about it. Engage in Democratic debate in public instead of hiding behind our modems. Join to bring TRUTH to people as Al Gore has done with his TV network and his climate campaign... in other words take it upon ourselves to become involved in doing mnore than just wishing and hoping. And I know I'm not the only one who is FED UP with being the one seen as wrong for how I feel. Our political system is corrupted to its core, and I do not support it. I don't intend to have to validate that opinion here again.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 01:52 AM
Response to Reply #43
54. Truth is our most powerful weapon.
Where have you been? Check my previous posts...I've only been posting the phrase in my subject line for 3+ years. THAT'S who I think I am. That's who I am. You know nothing about me.

FWIW- I've been screaming for impeachment from DAY 1! I'm an active participant in the process. I ENGAGE in debate (PUBLIC) constantly. BTW- TENS OF THOUSANDS of people can "mob" the streets and if it isn't REPORTED...nobody knows. I'll be damned if I allow you to blame ME for that.

don't you dare tell me enough already

Back off. Frustration and anger isn't an emotion that YOU have exclusive rights to. :smoke:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #41
50. Correction...The VOTES were NOT all counted.
The SCROTUS gave the presidency to Bush. In their opinion they REFUSED to make Florida count all the ballots, and they were never counted. Republican idiots were PAID to invade the Florida Sec. of State's office in a fake "peoples' riot" to stop the vote counting. In fact there was a picture with faces keyed to names of Repuke operatives, that I have seen here.

That was the disenfranchisement of thousands of people.

Secondly, they made the mindboggling statement "This is not a precedent".
That statement drives me nuts since I am a lawyer. Non-practicing.

I think Gore and Clark are the only two possibly qualified to be President.

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 06:45 AM
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56. And where were those thousands in 2004?
No caring one whit about Al Gore or this Constitution.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 07:45 PM
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42. So let me get this straight, a TOXIC EVIL system is a Dem majority in Congress
A clear Dem majority in the House and a possible filibuster proof majority in the Senate is a TOXIC EVIL system how exactly???

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:20 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. If they continue to enable Bush and his crimes
So far what have they done? "Resolutions" just aren't going to cut it anymore.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 11:21 AM
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58. uhhh, besides impeachment there is NOTHING THEY CAN DO
Theres no funding to cut right now. Any laws they pass will be either filibustered or vetoed. What exactly do you want them to do?

All they can do is hold hearings and build a case for when Bush wants more money in a supplemental or the 2008 budget.

Dont form judgements when you dont know how Congress works.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 12:50 PM
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59. Then unless they impeach they don't deserve to be where they are
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 12:52 PM by RestoreGore
And they prove they don't know how the CONSTITUTION works.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:12 AM
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29. If the new Gore... post 2001.. runs, The nomination is his for the taking
& Very likely the WH as well.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 12:46 PM
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35. Gore is not running for president. Period.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:34 PM
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52. and you base that statement on what?
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #52
53. Um, HIS OWN STATEMENTS.
That's more evidence than what you base your false hopes on.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #53
68. Actually, the evidence is to the contrary
The evidence strongly suggests that he is, in fact, already running.

Just ask yourself why Gore is completely and totally unwilling to issue the same type of statement and take the same type of actions he took in 2002, when he announced he was not a candidate and asked the draft Gore movement to stop?

Now he calls the Draft Gore movement "flattering" and refuses to take any steps against it???

He also refuses to issue a firm denial, which we know he is fully capabable of doing (as he did it before)???

Or do you think that Al Gore isn't intelligent enough to realize that the draft Gore movment draw resources away from other democratic candidates? And that the constant question of "are you running for President" detracts from his climate change message?

This trail of reeces pieces leads to only 1 possible conclusion.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:09 PM
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37. Don't forget the kiss--they'll be dragging that one out, too.
Funny, though.

Man, I hope he runs. If he does, I'll be precinct captain for the coordinated campaign.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:21 PM
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38. Gore is OUT!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:47 PM
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45. Not if you read my post.....He's not....eom
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:44 AM
Response to Reply #45
55. I read the post, your just wrong.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 06:33 PM
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40. I'll give it a week or so after the Oscars,
if he doesn't declare by then,

Nay! Nay! Nay!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 08:48 PM
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46. It's a long, long time from May to September but the "autumn leaves"....
See you in September!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:21 PM
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70. He will not declare before the July concerts
I would say that August would be the earliest, more likely September or October, though.

I know that sounds late, but everyone else got started way too early. That's better for Gore -- they can beat up on each other, everyone can get sick of them, they can spend a lot of their money and the field will narrow. He can afford to wait. Once he announces, he can raise money very quickly. Everything he is doing now is better publicity than he could get if he announced now. It keeps his name out there and keeps him in a good light with the public.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 09:12 PM
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47. I like to entertain the thought that he's not sure yet, himself. And I can understand why.
Edited on Wed Feb-21-07 09:13 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
He has had a laser focus on environmental issues for years. He has all new spheres of influence, which being a political office holder doesn't offer.

Yet, the opportunity is shimmering...but, he has has been through the mud and will not fall easily for the glitter, without substance. MKJ
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-21-07 10:04 PM
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49. I am waiting watching and hoping!
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:40 PM
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60. Gore is gonna kick ass and take names! GORE 2008!
:woohoo:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 02:44 PM
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61. PLEASE POST OR CROSS POST GORE THREADS
to the Al Gore for '08 Group.

Anything I say now will be redundant to what's already been posted.

Run, Al, run!!!!!!!
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:10 PM
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67. He is ALREADY in!
That is the cutest thing about what he is doing. He is running right now, without getting his hands dirty.

Everyone treats him like a candidate, listens to him... like a candidate, asks him his positions... like a candidate, but no one dares attack him... like a candidate. He isn't subject to the mudslinging and MSM scrutiny, but at the same time, everyone thinks of him as a serious candidate, why would he want to go and spoil that anytime soon by annoucing fast?

The longer he waits to officially announce.. the better.

Yesterday's punching exchange between Clinton and Obama is a perfect example of why Gore shouldn't announce until September.

Money? We all know he can raise tens of millions in weeks via the internet.

In 2002 Gore specifically announced he wasn't running in clear, unambiguous terms. He requested the Draft Gore movement to stop. Its 2007 and despite a stronger draft Gore movement AND repeated questions, he has refused to offer the same definitive statement.

It doesn't take much deductive reasoning to figure out why.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #67
71. Exactly!
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #67
79. Yes Milo_Bloom, I agree. I think that Gore
has posoitioned himslef perfectly.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 03:51 PM
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69. How dare people here discourage people from trying
Edited on Thu Feb-22-07 03:52 PM by closeupready
to get Gore to run.

What kind of a party/board do we have where members are trying to discourage others from expressing their love and admiration for a natural-born leader like Gore?

:mad:

And by the way, no, I don't know all the ins and outs of why Gore either does or does not want to run. Ultimately, those of us who support him and want him to run will either be happy to see him announce his candidacy or else we'll move on. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 05:11 PM
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73. If you support a Gore run, then join us here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=260

We have our very own Al Gore 2008 Group here in DU. We discuss meetups that people all over the country are forming. We post news from all over the world dealing with Al Gore.

Come join us and give us your input. We all need to work together if we want to restore Al Gore to his rightful place. And we have plenty of time to organize and form strategies.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 09:54 PM
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75. I posted this comment in the Toranto sellout thread. (Interesting observation.)
I saw this video on the site linked (it's the full unedited version of the blurb): http://www.citynews.ca/news/features_8084.aspx

Could someone please tell me that this isn't a politician running for President? Someone tell me the rationale here. He makes a jab at Bush. He talks about "Fixing US policies." He talks about Democrats taking the Congress.

Someone tell me I did not just see what I think I saw here.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-22-07 10:04 PM
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76. I don't think he'll run, but I wish he would.
I'd like to see Hillary's jaw bounce off the floor if he announced he was running.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:18 PM
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80. Let's hope that his Documentary Producer/Director Wins Award tonight!
It would be good....
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-25-07 08:29 PM
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81. Come on in, Al.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-26-07 07:29 AM
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82. GORE OBAMA 2008
I think Al Gore is keeping his options open right now, watching how the "pre-season" goes. I don't think he yet knows what he will do in 2008.

There is no hurry for Gore to enter the race for 2008. He is doing a great job raising public awareness about the climate crisis. He will testify at a Congressional Hearing in Washington on March 21st.

Gore is also busy working on his next book "The Assault on Reason" - to be published in May. The theme of this book - why we need better decision-making in government - is very timely (whether he runs or not).

Depending on how things pan out, and the reaction to his book, Gore can consider his situation over the summer and announce his decision (or if you prefer - "change his mind") sometime in the fall.

Don't forget that Bill Clinton did not kick-off his campaign until October 1991. But Al Gore already has nationwide respect and name recognition that other wannabees can only wish for!

And by the way - Gore is younger than Hillary, Clark, McCain and Guiliani (I'm not saying age is the most important factor - but you should be ready to serve for a full 8 years).

Unless and until Gore endorses another candidate, we have to assume that he is keeping his options open. So it is too soon for those of us who prefer Gore to switch our allegiance.


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Read Rolling Stone magazine: WHY GORE SHOULD RUN -- AND HOW HE CAN WIN
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13248532/why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win

Get ready for Al Gore's next book - The Assault on Reason - out in May!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600877.html

Visit the following websites:
www.algore.com
www.algore.org
www.draftgore.com - Sign the petition! :)

:kick:
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