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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 04:53 PM
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Elizabeth Edwards confronts a critic of her husband on Daily Kos, her comment:
Link to diary: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/14/35843/5967

Simply inaccurate criticism


John does come to DK and listen to what you are saying, but he has also been responsive to what you ask him. Listen, I sat with him -- back to back each of us at one of our children's computers and we answered questions a few weeks ago until first he had to go and then I had to go. And the rule he applied as we faced about 600 questions was that he wasn't going to cherry-pick the easy "Man-you-are-terrific" questions. And it wasn't the first time or the last time he has done that. Here and elsewhere. You all know I read DK, and you can bet I read the blogging and comments when John is here. So I am not guessing about this. As a matter of fact, I knew he was traveling and short on time the last time he was here, so I came back and answered questions for a couple of hours.
I was more than a little amused when, in the last couple of days, lightness wrote, "well, he's lost my vote." I don't believe John can lose what he never had, and I think such comments by lightness indicate a lack of candor that is also reflected in the original criticism here that John doesn't give answers. It is simply not true. He gives them, and I give them. Here. In town halls. No dodges. He answers the questions. Now it is true that when there are 600+ questions he does not answer every one of them, but he doesn't avoid the difficult ones. The criticism is simply wrong. So, too, with the criticism that he ought to show some interest in domestic issues, which is so monumentally inaccurate a criticism that it is hard to know where to begin. Poverty, health care, energy, global warming, education, wages, trade, labor rights, corporate ag subsidies, housing . . . he has spoken out on all these and more.
Now, John will be back here - and elsewhere. I will be back here -- and elsewhere. And we will answer your questions again. And undoubtedly again lightness or someone else who either supports another candidate or is a contrarian will criticize one or both of us for not answering a question about the limitations on investments in hedge funds -- shouldn't it be less than $2.5 M in assets (and yes, we have had that question) -- and this dialogue will be repeated. All I am saying is that if you don't agree with him, it is actually more helpful to talk about why so we can address it rather than try to make him sound like he doesn't respect the process, the two-way conversation, that occurs here and in town halls, because he believes that right now these are the only truly democratic town squares in America.

Join me at http://blog.johnedwards.com

by elizabethedwards on Sun Jan 14, 2007 at 09:14:58 AM EST




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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 04:57 PM
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1. peachy face was my first pick last time and will be so again
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:05 PM
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3. Yep, I like Elizabeth as well...
Her husband is doing a fine job out there and so is she..

The more people getting out the Democratic message the better..
It's making a BIG difference to the American people.
Giving them HOPE!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 04:59 PM
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2. "She's got my vote!"
my husband remarked after I finished reading this to him. EE is right, of course...it is just too easy to complain and distort on the internet--but those folks have to watch it, because it is also very easy to come right back and call them on it, which EE did brilliantly.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:07 PM
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4. Well it's also easy for a paid political team to try to
spin and distort on the internet and frankly I've see plenty of that from the Edward's camp
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:11 PM
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7. Are you saying that wasn't Elizabeth?
It was.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:36 PM
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9. As Elizabeth Edwards says in her post
instead of make up stuff that is simply not true (because you support someone else or are a contrarian) why not engage in a discussion about why you disagree with Edwards.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:51 PM
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12. About making up stuff - the "stuff" coming from the
Edward's paid political team could definitely be viewed as less than truth in labeling.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 07:20 PM
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15. This is exactly what she's talking about.
Do you care to address any of the issues? And if you think having a staff is in issue, would you care to make your argument about that and support it with facts?
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 02:36 AM
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21. There are about a couple dozen posters here
who do exactly the same thing as skwmom.

She, if I remember correctly, did an awfully vociferous job demonizing the legal profession a couple years ago - not based on anything principled, but because of her candidate selection and situational ethics.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 06:38 PM
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14. Yes...was hoping that comment would catch on here :)
What was I thinking :rofl:

Seriously, this should be true of any candidate in the Dem field.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:49 PM
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11. No. e/o/m
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:12 AM
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23. You replied to your own message.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:08 PM
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5. I hope she'll return to DU ....
She really is "one of us guys" :toast:
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:08 PM
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6. She didn't mention this I guess I didn't read it all I confess . . .
but the most beautiful post she ever made was here on DU on election day and Kerry had just conceded, not only that but she was diagnosed with breast cancer just the week before.

Beautiful woman. She'll make a great First Lady.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:20 PM
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8. It is a diary worth reading...and her comment in context
of that.

I remember her DU post about Laura Ingram's cancer....when DUers were "celebrating" that fact. She swooped in here to cyber'bitchslap those who were cheering Ms. Ingrams bad fortune. It was pretty much a "stoop to that level, you become them" sort of statement. She was right.

And I agree with you demnan, she'd make a fabulous First Lady :toast:



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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 05:45 PM
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10. Both Edwards are terrific... but I take issue,
with the premise that many at DU celebrated Ingraham's cancer. There easily could have been a handful of shitheads, but I certainly didn't come across what you describe. Please don't leave the impression that DUers were celebrating someone's illness... THe majority certainly do NOT.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 06:16 PM
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13. "...those who were cheering Ms. Ingrams bad fortune..."
Sorry I wasn't more clear....not all DUers participate in EVERY thread either, but I remember those who did on this one....and it certainly wasn't a majority.
Not even close.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 07:39 PM
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16. good to hear...
Some of those who did, might well have been intentional disruptors hoping to score a post for one of the many RW websites...It does seem to be a pattern when a controversial issue breaks. :shrug:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 07:52 PM
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17. To answer one point in the kos diary, the best way to help stop the escalation
Edited on Sun Jan-14-07 08:06 PM by Mass
is to call your Senators and congresspeople and tell them to make sure the Kennedy proposition comes to a vote.

Send an email to Edwards if you feel this is necessary, but send one to Kennedy please and call your reps and senators. It would be really useful.

For the rest, I happen to agree with the person Elizabeth Edwards was answering to (and I rarely agree with this person). Edwards's diaries on dkos have typically been very empty, mostly asking for answers but not telling us anything substantial about what he was proposing. I therefore cannot discuss things I do not know. What is Edwards proposing, apart from the 5 lines in his program. Does anybody have something to flesh it out?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:03 PM
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18. No he doesn't. He lives in sound bites.
And I hope Elizabeth Edwards writes me.

I have some things I'd like to ask her about John. Like why he couldn't better represent his constituency in North Carolina when he was senator, for one.
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:50 PM
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19. She's exactly right, but why didn't she and JE use their own computers?
Don't they have their own? And why do there children each have at least one?

Sorry, it's the first thing that came to mind:silly: Superficial, perhaps. But it is what struck me.:shrug:
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:56 PM
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20. Thanks for posting. Proud to K and be the 5th R! Elizabeth don't take no mess.
I hope she does hang out more at DU!!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:50 AM
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22. Poor Elizabeth
Having to deal with all the insincere morons who pretend to be interested but really have their own agendas (trash Edwards to make their guy look good).

She's a class act but she's wasting her time with those twits.

Julie
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 11:26 AM
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24. well, so far they haven't answered my question

I asked whether John would stop the, already in construction, building of the Super Highway; and whether he would stop, the already in progress, joining of Mex., Can. and US into one country, if he was elected prez.

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