Leave Al Gore alone.

[JeremyWestenn]

He said he won't run. He's said it again. He's said it a third time. And he's said a million times after that till he is blue in the face.

He won't run, leave him alone. I want to chew glass if I see another thread about him at this point.

Personally, I'm more concerned with keeping the House seats we won then whether or not your mother and obscure politicians are running for office. These threads don't help us secure anything. Get active and we'll see results.

[AtomicKitten]

1. ***

http://www.electgore2008.com/

[JeremyWestenn]

3. /wrist

[SharonRB]

4. I'm still with you!

[AtomicKitten]

9. have you seen this site?

http://www.algore-08.com/

[SharonRB]

16. I don't think so

I just registered. Thanks!

[RestoreGore]

27. This site is no Al Gore support site

Do you actually READ the sites you link to? The person who runs that site is NO Gore supporter. He has been banned from every other site including Mr. Gore's own Climate Crisis website for the movie for his incoherent, violent, threatening rants that bordered on psychotic. And if you bothered to look at the front page, you will see that he is falsely accusing other Gore supporters of stealing money and being racists. He has been threatening and harrassing supporters of Mr. Gore since 2003. He does a great disservice to Mr. Gore. I would say from my research that he is either a RWer posing as a supporter, or a stalker. It is amazing to me how people just trust strangers on the web simply because they cut and paste articles. And if you want the link to his pathetic blog where he spews his incoherent hatred against others, just google Al Gore on Blogger. No wonder this man doesn't plan to run again. And at this point I tend to agree with the OP. Leave the man alone already. If he decides he wishes to enter this toxic fray again I am sure he will know what to do, and no one group of people is going to be responsible for it. If groups took as much interest in actually helping take action on issues as they do spinning their wheels looking for a "savior" we might actually get something done in this country.

[AtomicKitten]

34. * ahem *

Actually most of the time I'm pretty certain YOU aren't a Gore supporter. The site I linked to actually provides a plethora of Gore links and, yes, I find that valuable. One doesn't need to subscribe body and soul to a website to utilize its resources.

However, my window for editing has expired so please feel free to alert the mods of your concerns and maybe you can have my post deleted if you feel so strongly about it.

And I will rally behind whatever candidate I choose.

http://draftgore.com/

[RestoreGore]

35. Was that supposed to hurt my feelings?

Forget it. And you can bet the moderators will be told about that link. Nice to know you don't even care WHO is behind these pages as long as you get your fix. If Mr. Gore's own people chose to ban him from their own blog you can be sure they had a reason for it. Therefore, your attempt to make this about me once again shows your own childishness. You don't have to kiss his ass to run for president in a system that already turned its back on him once to be a supporter of the MAN. You best remember that.

[AtomicKitten]

37. you can take it however you wish

You registered a complaint, I offered you a remedy.

Done.

[RestoreGore]

46. And I take it with a grain of salt

As well as your rudeness. This "groupie" mentality that seeks to ostracize any supporter of the man simply because we haven't jumped on the 2008 train as if that alone is the be all end all to all of the world's problems is ridiculous. I respect that he has a mind of his own and already knows what he wishes to do with his life, so I support him wholehearedly in his efforts now instead of living in a dreamworld of speculation that serves no purpose now. And you can take that any way you wish.

[AtomicKitten]

49. You are spinning your wheels on this.

You have mistaken my lack of excitement over your allegations about the website for rudeness. Quite frankly it sounds to me like intracamp squabbling, something I am familiar with and something that is of no concern to me.

The website provides terrific links. I don't read the blog, in fact, I don't read any blogs because I really don't have the time or inclination to read opinion; I'd rather research newspaper articles, speeches, etc. and make up my own mind.

And how can I convoy to you how little I care about whom you support? The amount I care is not discernible to the human eye. I will point out that the screen name you chose isn't entirely compatible with your POV, but you are welcome to it. I would also suggest cutting down on caffeine; I assure you the feeling of being ostracized is all in your head.

Serenity now. And Happy Festivus from the rest of us.

[Fovea]

2. Draft movements have a long tradition

and represent the popular will.

I know it rankles, but please don't chew glass.

[sharp_stick]

5. Does this Gore thread cound? n/t

[Solo_in_MD]

6. AMEN!

Gore won't run for a number of good reasons. We need to really take the Senate and hold on the Congress, and retake the Presidency in 2008. Its a tall order so we should be focusing on what we can do to secure it, not Hillary vs Obama vs ...

[JeremyWestenn]

7. QFT. QFMFT.

[BattyDem]

8. I have only heard him say, "I'm not planning on running"

I haven't yet heard him say, "I will not run." Just sayin' ... :evilgrin:

On edit: If someone has heard Gore give a definitive answer such as, "I will not run in 2008" please let us know. :-)

[AtomicKitten]

11. ***

SYDNEY, Australia — Former Vice President Al Gore said Sunday he hadn’t rule out making a second bid for the White House, though he said it was unlikely.

Gore spoke to reporters in Sydney, where he was promoting the local premiere of his documentary on global warming.

“I haven’t completely ruled out running for president again in the future but I don’t expect to,” Gore said before the Sunday night premiere of “An Inconvenient Truth.”

[renie408]

12. What does "***" mean? n/t

[AtomicKitten]

13. it means nothing

except I'm too lazy to post a subject line!

[BattyDem]

20. ROFL!

:rofl:

[renie408]

23. Oh, good. I wasn't going to ask because I figured it would be

some thing that every DU'er knew and I was just the geek who didn't get it.

[BattyDem]

19. That's exactly what I mean.

He has never given a definite, "no" when asked the question. Saying it's "unlikely" or "I don't expect to" is not the same as saying, "I won't be running for president in 2008."

We've all been following politics long enough to know that a politician's (or ex-politician's) choice of words is important. It's not just what they say, it's what they don't say ... just like when Bush** said about Iraq, "There are no war plans on my desk."

[AtomicKitten]

21. and it's just enough hope

for the moonies like me to cling to ...

[BattyDem]

22. Me too!

[renie408]

25. And what good would it do for him to paint a big fat bullseye on his forehead

by throwing his hat into the ring this early?

[BattyDem]

28. If he does run, I think this strategy brilliant!

I never said that he SHOULD announce his candidacy right now. I totally agree with you ... what good would it do? It will only make him a nonstop target for the next 2 years and he'll be attacked by the GOP and the DLC. :-(

I was just pointing out to the OP that he has never said, "I'm not running" ... which leaves the door of hope wide open for the Gore worshippers like me! B-)

edited: typo :blush:

[renie408]

32. And if anybody knows what it's liked to be attacked by the GOP

it's Al Gore.

I didn't mean you, BTW. I was talking to those who keep referring to the fact that he has said he isn't considering running like it really means he isn't running. Sorry.

edited to add:

Al Gore is my absolute #1 choice as a candidate in '08. I honestly think he would make a fabulous run and I don't think he will be tarred by the 'loser' brush because most Americans know that he didn't REALLY lose in 2000. I also think that the fact that George Bush has totally sucked as President would work in his favor. Where other Dem candidates wouldn't really benefit by any comparison to Bush, Gore would. NOBODY could resist thinking 'I wonder what it would have been like if...'.

[usregimechange]

36. Sounds like a maybe to me.

[evlbstrd]

10. You choose your activism, I'll choose mine.

Enjoy the glass.

[JeremyWestenn]

14. Enjoy being left dry.

[evlbstrd]

26. That's the chance we take.

Is that what movtivates you? Certain victory?

[DesertRat]

15. Then I guess you won't be interested in this site

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/303874397?ltl=1167186044

[FogerRox]

17. Yeah sometimes these 2008 threads can get really old.

I like the new Gore, whether hes running or not, what hes doing right now is Gore at his best.

[RestoreGore]

30. I couldn't agree more

Unfortunately, it would seem many don't care about what he is doing now if there isn't some sort of political gossip attached to it.

[oldtime dfl_er]

18. No, he hasn't said he won't run

He has said he has no plans. Methinks there are factions out there who are quite afraid of an Al Gore candidacy. Personally I would back him in a heartbeat, with money, votes (as many times as I can!), and foot soldiering.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/2270524

[JNelson6563]

43. Hammer meet nail

Methinks there are factions out there who are quite afraid of an Al Gore candidacy.

As there should be. The supporters of other candidates know Gore would be most formidable and would very much like to discourage a Gore run.

:toast:

Julie

[AtomicKitten]

45. woot

[RestoreGore]

53. I don't support ANYONE for 2008

I'm still hoping this country makes it through 2007. I happen to live in the here and now as Mr. Gore is doing after seeing what speculation brings you. People who constantly and incessantly do nothing but cheerlead about something they don't have any facts about make others believe he has only done the movie and written his books for political gsin, and I frankly think that has hurt the real success he should be having now with this message. Perhaps that has something to do with those who for once can't just give this man the room he needs to do what he feels he must do regarding an issue that saw NO progress in thirty years. I have no idea what the motivations of this original poster were, and I absolutely disagree that Mr. Gore is obscure in ANY WAY. However, I do happen to also believe he is a man who knows what he wants to do, and is also trying his best to change the tone regarding the environment, which as his son did say was his passion. For those of us for who it is our passion as well, we want to see him devoting his time to it and inspiring others on that front now. Although, if people keep squabbling over him ONLY about 2008 and once again drag up the past, it doesn't look like much will be done to help him now. That is my concern, and as far as any election to come, that is for him to decide. So perhaps you need to see all sides as well before you go painting everyone with the same brush.

[JNelson6563]

54. Who was talking about you??

How about a side of over-defensiveness to go with that entree of self-importance?

Oy.

Julie

[Cameron27]

55. I'm backing Wes Clark,

but I've never really lost my "love" for Al Gore, so throw in Obama, and may the best man win.

You're right though, I suspect lots of hand wringing, and gnashing of teeth if Gore steps in, and these "poor Al, don't upset him with your support threads," tickle me.:+

edited: spelling

[buddysmellgood]

24. NO! We will draft him. I recommend making the dental appointment before you chew.

[Pirate Smile]

29. I haven't even seen any Gore threads today.

Some days there are many but not lately.

What provoked this post?

[LittleClarkie]

31. Ignore is your friend

The Gore people have as much right as anyone. I know I get annoyed whenever someone tells me not to waste my time, that Kerry is toast.

Likely you will have the opposite effect, with folks posting Gore threads out of plain stubbornness. Beware the karmic boomerang.

[hatrack]

33. So don't read/look for threads about Al Gore if it bothers you

There, that was simple!

:eyes:

[illinoisprogressive]

38. Happier than ever

thanks. I keep posting the guy is out of politics for good. He is happier than ever. I never seen him look and act the way he has since he got out.
The Gore everyone is in love with is the Gore who is not in politics and free to be himself.
If he got back in he wouldn't be the guy you see now and the guy you love but, back to wooden al.
Leave the guy alone.

[NYCGirl]

39. You might want to read what Mr. Gore himself says about how he'd act if he

ever ran again instead of jumping to conclusions:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/06/29/gore-retreat.htm

[illinoisprogressive]

41. I would like him to run but, want him to be happy

He followed his dad into politics and was the good son his whole life. I see him happier now and think 'good for him' it's time for him to do what he wants.
If he chooses to run he will be on the top of my list.
But, if not I am happy he has found himself and having fun for a change.
But, I think we should let him be who he wants and do what he wants.
He was put through so much in 2000. He is the best by far and would take it easily but, let's let him decide.

[NYCGirl]

42. Is anyone FORCING him? I don't think so. NT

[renie408]

44. Not being sarcastic here, but do you actually know Al Gore personally?

I was wondering because your comments appear based on personal knowledge.

Also, I don't think that anyone here thinks the decision is anyone but his. Just because he is asked doesn't mean he has to run.

[RestoreGore]

48. I found this interview with his son interesting

http://thepoliticker.observer.com/2006/12/albert-gore-dads-doing-well-not-running-in-2008.html#comments

[NYCGirl]

50. Says exactly the same thing his father says, "He has no PLANS to run."

It's the Observer that says "he's not running." Since they have no crystal ball (that anyone knows of), I'll just take that as a guess.

[RestoreGore]

52. That wasn't what I was referring to

Nor was I addressing you.

[Heewack]

40. Thank you!!!!!!!!

For saying that. Somebody needed to.

[Infinite Hope]

47. His most recent comments were "Something to consider" and "won't rule it out."

[sueh]

51. Oh, my goodness...

I understand your frustration at all these "who will run/who should run/who will get nominated in '08" threads. But, please, remember that "our mothers" are not running for president, and Al Gore certainly is NOT an "obscure politician". And, yes, I am active in politics and elections on a local level as well as national. In fact, the first presidential campaign I got involved in was Al Gore's when he ran in 1988.