I really like this Hillary photo

[Bucky]

I'm gonna be saying a lot of unflattering things about Mrs Clinton in the next few months. I don't think her candidacy is a good idea and I intend to spell out in this forum my precise reasons for thinking she should keep her current position--where I think she's doing a fantastic job.

But I do wanna take a second to admire her aesthetics. She has an interesting face, an engaging face. I'm of the opinion that faces tell us a lot about a human being's character. I look at her and I see a woman who's found her groove in life, who's figured out what her mission and work in life is to be and has made peace with all the compromises any person must make if they follow the road to power and influence.

Senator Clinton has the face of someone who's endured hard trials, seen great victories, and still manages to remember what life is like for those less fortunate. She believes in good government and knows what it takes to achieve it. With the exception of the wisdom of her seeking the presidency, my only differences with her are differences of opinion, not differences of principle.

She's taken a lot of heat over the years--a small cottage industry has risen around excoriating her personally. In the end she's faced that heat with grace and aplomb and has done so in fights where she is championing causes that will help me personally live a better life and provide a better future for my daughter. I am a huge admirer and I thank her for what she and her family have done for our country.

[JuniperLea]

1. Bashing Dems gives Repubs fodder

There are many Dems I don't care for... but my lips (fingers) are sealed.

[moodforaday]

6. This is not a good idea

So you'll be rooting for a pro-war Democrat just because of party affiliation? Isn't that the whole problem to begin with, choosing politics over what's right?

[JuniperLea]

10. My experience in California

Is that we should have never allowed the gubernatorial primary. Every little gripe OUR people used against each other was used against the winner in the final race. It was ugly.

It is far better, IMHO, to point out the positive traits of the candidate you like rather than condemning another Dem.

[moodforaday]

12. Up to a point.

At the moment, on the state or congressional level, I agree. But not when it comes to nominating her (anyone) for the presidency.

[JuniperLea]

14. The primaries could get ugly

And then the ugliness mirrored back. You can accomplish the same thing by using the old lyric...

"Accentuate the positive; eliminate the negative"


Like... yeah, but so-and-so is anti-war and I appreciate that far more.

[MannyGoldstein]

9. Yes The Rethugs Did Well With That Plan

By refusing to state the plain, honest truth, the Rethugs were victorious last night - great strategy.

In all seriousness: the Democrats didn't really win last night; rather, the Rethugs lost. They lost on corruption, and on their foolish insistence on backing an obviously-failed President. The only brilliance in the Democratic camp was that Dr. Dean made sure that viable candidates ran in all contests.

In two years, there will be fresh-faced Hitler youth on the Rethug ballot, without the baggage of the current Rethugs, but with the same Rethug ideology. Unless Dems actually do something in the next two years, we will lose to those fresh-faced Hitler youth. The Dems need an actual ideology - and they need to get moving on it.

An ideology might be emerging, thanks again to Dr. Dean - helping Middle Class families.

Mr. and Mrs. Clinton's most-craven worship of triangulation is not about doing something - it's about finding the "middle", grabbing boatloads of cash from the Predator Class, and simply sucking less than those on your right and left. Democrats adopted it en masse from 1994 on, and regularly got their clocks cleaned until the Rethugs became so egregious to the American People that even craven triangulation seemed better.

Don't fool yourself - unless the Dems move from triangulation to action, yesterday's victory will be a blip - not a trend.

[JuniperLea]

11. You don't get it, oh snarky one

See my post above... sheesh.

[RoccoR5955]

2. You should see her in person

She's a lot more of a people person than you might believe. Always engaging, personal, and polite. She's a bit shorter than one might think. I think like 5'1" or so, but when I met her six years ago, when she ran the first time, she struck me as a very nice, intelligent woman. I am jealous of Bill, too, because she is much cuter in person than any picture could capture.

[moodforaday]

7. Being a nice person

has nothing to do with nothing. It's called diplomacy.

[notadmblnd]

3. I'm not going to bash her, but the reason I don't want her to run is...

...because she is who they want to run. They think they beat her with almost anyone and I think they're right, they can. I would love to see Wesley clarke and John Edwards on the 2008 ticket together. am I dreaming? Probably.

[JuniperLea]

15. They think they can beat her...

Exactly! And every bad thing we say about her will be parroted back at us.

[William769]

4. What a great picture!

BTW and a GREAT Presidential candidate!

[moodforaday]

13. She's great if you want

to march into Iran. Bush may have been weakened too much to try that, so she's your chance.

[William769]

16. Your one man show doesn't seem to be working here.

:eyes:

ON EDIT: "She's great if you want to march into Iran. Bush may have been weakened too much to try that, so she's your chance." We can do without the Faux news grandstanding.

[moodforaday]

17. Here's a quote

Read this and tell me how it's different from Bush's rhetoric:

I believe that we lost critical time in dealing with Iran because the White House chose to downplay the threats and to outsource the negotiations. I don't believe you face threats like Iran or North Korea by outsourcing it to others and standing on the sidelines. But let's be clear about the threat we face now: A nuclear Iran is a danger to Israel, to its neighbors and beyond. The regime's pro-terrorist, anti-American and anti-Israel rhetoric only underscores the urgency of the threat it poses. U.S. policy must be clear and unequivocal. We cannot and should not – must not – permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons. In order to prevent that from occurring, we must have more support vigorously and publicly expressed by China and Russia, and we must move as quickly as feasible for sanctions in the United Nations. And we cannot take any option off the table in sending a clear message to the current leadership of Iran – that they will not be permitted to acquire nuclear weapons."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/world/127963,CST-NWS-pol08.article

Iran, of course, is not building nuclear weapons. Check with IAEA, read some Scott Ritter or listen to his presentations. It's a repeat of Iraq's WMD fraud, all the way. Are you really willing to let yourself be "misled" just because it's one of yours that's doing the misleading?

I have nothing against Hillary Clinton. I just don't like seeing innocent people getting killed, is all.

[Drum]

5. I met her, I like her.

She came to one of our performances at the Kennedy Ctr while Bill C. was President...it was Chelsea's birthday that day. They came backstage for a little reception with us afterward, and both were extremely personable, attractive, and likeable ladies. This picture is a typically "human" moment. I like Hil...she's currently my Senator (NY) and I wish her well in any endeavor.

[wordpix]

8. I agree with you, Bucky, but save the Hil-bashing. You are right, Hil has too much baggage

to be our candidate this time around. Better she stay a great senator til 2016, and see the lay of the land after she's gotten some credentials under her belt like affordable health care for all.