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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:02 AM Original message |
Maybe we could accomplish more without impeachment. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. As long as we can use the same approach for street crime? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. We do use the same approach with street crime. |
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Loge23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
3. Crimes are too great. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Let the investigations begin! |
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jojo54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. Killing thousands vs. a stained dress? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. The Rethugs were hurt politically because |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. No reason we can't do both |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 05:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. There is more than one way to hold him accountable. |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
6. This 'Revolution' Will Die |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. If we can prove war crimes on the part of Bush/Cheney, |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
71. The Iraq war itself is one massive war crime. |
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El Fuego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
9. Let's just throw out the entire judicial system then. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Impeachment without conviction -- which we don't |
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El Fuego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 01:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. But we DO have the votes in the Senate. It is a NEW DAY!!!!!! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. No, we don't. More than a majority vote is required to convict. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
10. Agreed 100%. The nation didn't vote Democratic so that impeachment |
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lefthandedskyhook (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Think about what this means |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. the whole point of the election last night . . . |
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lefthandedskyhook (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Can't disagree with that n/t |
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lefthandedskyhook (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
11. Once the crimes are exposed... |
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luckyleftyme2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. THIS IS ABOUT TRUST! |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
14. Very true |
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lefthandedskyhook (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It hurt their party because... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Yup |
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lefthandedskyhook (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. There is a difference |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Response |
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lefthandedskyhook (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. You make a good argument |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I'm encouraged by Pelosi's assertion that they're going to |
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partylessinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
15. The crimes of * are just too serious and we have sustained too much |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. WE DON'T HAVE THE DAMN VOTES!! |
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lefthandedskyhook (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. I think people do understand |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Agreed. Time-- and the evidence -- will tell. |
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El Fuego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. We control the Senate now!!!!! We have the damn votes!!!! |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Get a civics text, for Christ's sake. |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
17. I have been saying this for months |
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lefthandedskyhook (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. You are correct |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
20. I agree, Bush needs to be proven guilty for AA illegalities he's responsible for instead of |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Assume we impeach him. That means we indict him. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
21. Impeachment without conviction would backfire and make Dems less popular |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. I agree. Impeachment without conviction is worse |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
29. K&R |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
33. Hell no. I wanna see "Impeached" next to his name in the history books |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Do you want to see: NOT GUILTY by his name? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Why do you assume he'll have Not Guilty after his name? Don't give up so easy |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Name the 67 yes, sixty-seven, Senators who will vote to convict. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Roll your eyeballs all you want. Give up, too, while you're at it |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 05:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. We're letting him off easy if we let him forever say "NOT GUILTY" |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
37. We can't not try to impeach |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. Investigations are a separate issue and they will go forward. |
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
38. There are more important things than impeachment. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 06:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
58. Well said. Thanks! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
41. What's the BEST possible outcome we could get from impeachment |
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lefthandedskyhook (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Not quite |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. It wouldn't be President Pelosi. They'd pull a "Nixon." |
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lefthandedskyhook (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. OK I'm convinced |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
43. We need some investigations in order to sort out Iraq in order to govern |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. I agree: investigations are paramount. "Drain the swamp" |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
44. Yes....investigations forcing him to RESIGN or at least holding him |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
61. Especially since impeachment doesn't mean CONVICTION. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
46. If you want to hand the 2008 Pres Election to the Republicans... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
47. Maybe we need to protect and defend and restore the Constitution |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. Of course we do. But what's the best way to do that? |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
53. Bush can't handle impeahment or investigations - he would crack up for sure... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. There WILL be investigations. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
60. We need the investigations anyway. The oversight is critical, and |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I assume Pelosi means investigations when she says |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 06:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Pressure should always be applied, even when people are inclined to |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 01:15 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. good point! |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
67. we have to investigate first, impeachment or no. First things first, please |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-08-06 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
68. As long as there is full legal remedy |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
70. Yeah, why hold criminals accountable? |
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