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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:45 PM
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DEMS: 40-58 HOUSE SEATS NOW IN PLAY -- IF FUNDS CAN BE FOUND TO RUN ADS
WP: Funding Constrains Democrats
Party Chiefs See Chance to Take 40-Plus Seats With TV Push
By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 18, 2006; Page A12

Top Democrats said yesterday that they are planning to significantly expand the number of GOP House seats they will target during the final 20 days of the campaign but that financial disputes and fundraising problems are hindering the effort.

Democrats said private polls have convinced top party officials that they could pick up 40 or more seats -- nearly double their internal projections from a week ago -- if they spend enough money on television advertising for long-shot races. Strategists James Carville and Stan Greenberg are among those pleading with party leaders to go deep into debt to run ads in as many as 50 GOP-held districts.

Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Rahm Emanuel (Ill.) has privately signed off on targeting a new group of GOP incumbents who were once considered safe for reelection, starting with Rep. Gil Gutknecht in rural Minnesota, officials said....

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Emanuel said he believes as many as 58 seats are now in play.

Still, several Democrats complained that the party is on the verge of blowing a once-in-a-decade political opportunity because of financial troubles....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/17/AR2006101701544.html
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:55 PM
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1. My thoughts
If I had to choose between winning both houses, and winning just the HoR but by a larger margin, obviously winning both houses is better.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:25 AM
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26. I'd choose just the house by a larger margin.
Bush will veto good laws anyway. Incumbants would be strongly positioned to hold the house, and Democrats are well positioned make senate gains the next two cycles.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:45 AM
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44. Control of the Senate means we can block appointments.
Much better to have both the Senate and the House.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:04 AM
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51. Very, very good point! Senate Control = Block Appointments. (n/t)
:kick:
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:35 AM
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48. No Senate could mean a 7-2 Supreme Court
It could be 50 years before we get rid of Roberts as it is. I don't think it's a good idea to give them the chance to add more whackos to the court.
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:30 AM
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27. Small margins in house OR senate makes Shrub's Veto impregnable.
I would prefer veto proof majority in both house and senate.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:33 AM
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29. who wouldn't,lol?
I don't think thats an option though. Some big money people need to fork over some bread dammit.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:34 AM
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57. Impossible to achieve this year.
Totally.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:56 PM
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2. Interesting article - Emanuel and Carville trying to back Dean
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 10:58 PM by DURHAM D
into a corner. If the Dems don't take 50 new seats in Congress Carville, Emanuel and others of the DLC will say that Dean blew it. This planted story is more about Hillary's run for President than these midterms.

Dean's job is to help the whole party - U.S. Senate, Governors races and state level races. Emanuel just wants to run the table for the House. I really have lost all faith in Rahm. Also important to remember the journalist, Vandehei, is a Repug apologist - his wife worked for Tom Delay.

Edit: DLCers would like to see Dean get the DNC into debt - then they will come to save the day.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:10 PM
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7. Hillary? I see both sides of this dilemma. Why do we have to...
beat up on Carville, Emanuel, Hillary, OR Dean here? A year ago, would we, in our wildest dreams, have thought we'd be faced with such a hopeful dilemma? I just wish we had Republican riches, and could easily get our hands on all the funds we need for all races worth a shot.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:28 PM
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13. I'm not beating up on anyone (ex. Emanuel) - just saying
what this article/game is really about. Read my comment again - it is supportive of Dean. I like his 50 state strategy. In fact, I expected the strategy to take much longer. After all, he is trying to do in a few years what it took the Repugs over 20 years to accomplish.

And, I agree - wish we had seriously deep riches but that would mean sucking up to corporations to an uncomfortable degree. Knowing that, last weekend I sat down at my computer, spent several hours on research, and sent checks to seven 2nd tier House candidates, and three to 3rd tier. Also sent donations to Senate candidates Webb (2nd time), McCaskill and Tester (3rd time). I don't want the DNC, DCCC or DSCC to distribute my money in this moment - I want to do it myself. I give to the DNC in the off years.


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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:30 PM
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14. You did great, DURHAM! I understand your point. I think I was...
just so carried away with unexpected possibility that I didn't want to come down to earth.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:16 AM
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53. that's the same strategy I use to donate. Glad I'm not alone.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:34 AM
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30. nonsense.
They want money to run ads. Whats difficult to understand? The Dean/Schumer/Emanuel battle is nothing new, whats new is there are more competitive races.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:29 PM
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87. sure they want money, thats why they want to get rid of Dean.
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 03:30 PM by oc2002
Dean is not playing the DLC game and lining thier pockets, he is doing what is best for the Democratic party.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:21 AM
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38. I read it as the converse: Rahm and Cueball already in a corner
What they're seeing is a big(ger) win that they can take no credit for.

It's unlikely that "big dollars" would actually make much difference at this point. It would only appear to (in the right circles).

They'd rather lose than be demonstrated to be irrelevant.

The whole DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy is panicking. This is just the Dem/DLC members version of it.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 05:15 AM
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42. I don't think you're thinking this through
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 05:16 AM by wyldwolf
Interesting article - Emanuel and Carville trying to back Dean into a corner.

Of course they support Dean. He's the DNC chair. But this in no way fits the definition of the 50 State Strategy, the stated goal of which is to build party infrastructure in weak or non-existant Democratic areas and run candidate up and down the ticket in those areas regardless of whether the Republican is ahead by 90 points or not.

This current situation has more to do with Democrats catching the anti-Republican wave beyond the original projected districts and riding it. To do that, more money is needed.

If the Dems don't take 50 new seats in Congress Carville, Emanuel and others of the DLC will say that Dean blew it. This planted story is more about Hillary's run for President than these midterms.

A completely bogus accessment. Schumer and Emanuel reached an accord with Dean on funding. These extra seats now in play are just icing on the cake. Howard Dean is smart enough (as we should all be) to know the benefits of a very dominant House is worth the gamble and will only strengthen Dean's 50 state strategy.

Dean's job is to help the whole party - U.S. Senate, Governors races and state level races. Emanuel just wants to run the table for the House.

Emanuel's job is to "run the table for the House." Control the House, control the national agenda.

I really have lost all faith in Rahm.

This election will swing on a number of different factors, but all of the success that we have will be attributable to Rahm (Emanuel) — Nancy Pelosi, Democratic Leader of the House of Representatives.


DLCers would like to see Dean get the DNC into debt - then they will come to save the day.

LOL! Now just how would the DLC "save the day" with the DNC in debt?
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #42
69. You have your reality - I have mine. Keep drinking.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. brilliant reply. I'll make a note of it.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:03 AM
Response to Reply #2
46. Yep.
Trying to set up disappointment in the results too, and suck money away from Dean.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:21 PM
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81. That is exactly correct, the DLC is trying to SCAM the election by

saying that the Dems should win 100 seats, and anything less is a failure by Dean..

...ya...thats the ticket.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:27 PM
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86. got a link on that?
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:30 PM
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88. DLC hates Dean.

google that.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:43 PM
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89. so, the answer is no. You were obviously mistaken
There is no proof or anything to even suggest the DLC is trying to SCAM the election by saying that the Dems should win 100 seats, and anything less is a failure by Dean..
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:45 PM
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96. Why should we trust them?
Carville even helped defeat Kerry last time around. Sorry, but we shouldn't trust these fair weather Dems.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:44 PM
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95. I don't trust Emanuel or Carville
They must think getting the DNC in debt makes them vulnerable to corporate control. No thanks.
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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:57 PM
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3. Carville is not trustworthy
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 10:59 PM by lcordero2
But with 63% of the people being pissed...maybe, just maybe it can be a 60-70 seat turnaround.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:56 AM
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73. Only if we all dig deep into our wallets and GIVE!
We have the votes and the position all we need now is the $$$$$$. Let's not let this chance pass us by!
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:59 PM
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4. Gee, we haven't heard this angle before.
A Jim VandeHei article with Rahm Emanuel saying how the sky's falling because Howard bleeping Dean is dragging the party into the ground.

Oh and, I hear the DNC is borrowing money for the senate races so I'm sure Rahm wants his.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:05 PM
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5. how do 75 seats sound to you?
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 11:38 PM by welshTerrier2
Chuck Todd, editor-in-chief at the Hotline, said the Dems could pick-up as many as 75 seats ... at some point, little things like counting the leaks in the dam just don't matter and you start to realize that the whole damned dam is about to give way ...


source: http://nationaljournal.com/racerankings/house/

2006 House Race Rankings
Friday, Oct. 13, 2006

With apologies to our editors, we're expanding the list to 60 races. At this point at least that many are in play and, frankly, we could have gone to 75.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:08 PM
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6. OK, I just sent the biggest political donation I've ever made.
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 11:09 PM by SharonAnn
I think it's worth it. I've been impressed with the candidates they've recruited and the quality job that they're doing.

I also have been impressed with Deans 50-state strategy.

Guess I better step up and let them know that I've seen them go the extra mile, and I'll do it too.

Gosh this feels good!

P.S. I sent it out to my 200 member email list of local Democrats. I don't normally do that because these people are involved enough to subscribe to whatever email lists and websites they care to. But this time, I thought I should ask them to consider digger deep for the opportunity "to change the world".

P.P.S. I also gave the same amount today to Dean for the 50-state strategy.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. SharonAnn, you are a positive and action-taking woman!
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 11:15 PM by DeepModem Mom
Tomorrow, I think I'll get out my own virtual checkbook again, start tapping, and follow your stellar example.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #6
33. I gave to the DNC for the first time in a loooong time this cycle.
Why?

Two words: Howard.Dean.

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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #33
77. Yeah, I think it's time for me too.
I was looking for locals to donate to but CA-19 is a Republican lock, Angelides has no chance and Debra Bowen is doing nothing to help herself, so . . . it looks like the DNC will be getting my $ and yes, I'm also donating because of Dean -- it's HIS 50-state strategy that has set us up to take seats this year. In years past, at least half of those seats would have been uncontested in lieu of consentrating on 6 seats in bum-F**ked, Iowa (or California, or Texas or name your state).
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JetCityLiberal Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #33
105. Definitely two of my favorite words
:thumbsup:

My wife and I gave for the same reason.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:13 PM
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9. I've been giving - over and over again
I hope everyone is digging deep for this one...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:14 PM
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10. Good for you, Spock -- thanks to you! nt
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:08 AM
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21. I gave more this time, too
We gave until it hurt this time. This is not the time to be pinching pennies. I'm glad others are feeling the same. :thumbsup:
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:14 AM
Response to Reply #21
47. Don't give until it hurts!
Give until it feels GOOD!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #47
91. EVERY time I give it feels good!
I think I've given to every liberal organization of any size this past few months - enjoyed it every time :D
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:18 PM
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11. after reading Crashing the Gate
part of me thinks this is Carville protecting his consultant buddies and getting the party so heavy into debt that they have to go for the big donors McAuliffe loved so much instead of Dean's party of the people strategy. And, yes, I wouldn't be surprised if it was to help Hillary. I don't trust Carville as far as I can throw an anvil.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #11
97. I agree
Its a very poor strategy and transparent as hell.

There's nothing I would enjoy more than sending the DLC turncoat consultants packing after the election. Let them find jobs with GOP consultants.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:22 PM
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12. I'm surprised at the DNC economic news in this article
It seems every day I get an email with good news about how much the DNC has raised from its membership, and details of what races they're spending the money on....
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Daylin Byak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:46 PM
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17. I rather take Deand way over Rahm's way any day of the week
Look, winning races isn't just the main issue that our party is facing today, it's also about revitaizing areas, districts and states that we either written off for competitive races or have just written off all together.

That's what Howard Dean's 50 state strategy is crucial to our party cause it's all about revitalizing our party in areas like the South, who constanly thinks of us as "jesus haters" and anti-religion which is totally untrue and states like Oklahoma and even Idaho.

Look, the 2006 elections isn't just about taking control of Congress but it's about the process of straghening our party and reaching out to people like the blue-collar conservatives who were screwed by the Republican Party with unfair free trade aggreements like CAFTA.

The mid-term election is just a one time deal, the 50 strategy is a process that could change our party for many years to come.

I'm with Howard 100% of the way.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #17
35. Excellent post DB. Howard Dean has vision. nt
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:40 PM
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15. If that many more House seats keep coming into play, what about the Senate
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 11:41 PM by cui bono
Haven't we gained any ground there? Would so love to take over both of them.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:43 PM
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16. We wouldn't even have candidates running in many of these districts if not
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 11:57 PM by w4rma
for Dean's 50-state strategy.

Note that the big Democratic donors NEED TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE RIGHT NOW. They cannot wait until 2008. They need to help NOW. They need to help in this election. And as much as I like George Soros, he needs to realize that this opportunity, right now, is extremely big and extremely important. I'm surprised that a buisnessman like him is unable to see a great "buisness deal" when it knocks him upside the head.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:58 PM
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18. Any news on get-out-the-vote efforts?
Are state and local parties geared up?

I can't tell much since I just completed an interstate move and am not hooked up in my new state yet.
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Frazzled Educator Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:58 PM
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19. Please say this is a wet dream come true.
I would love the Dems to pickup 40 - 50 seats and run the table in the Senate.

I would love the Dems with s 260 - 185 majority in the House
And a 52 - 48 Senate (seeing as AZ is out the picture because Pederson is running a semi weak campaign).

Personally, I'd love a 53 - 47 in the Senate
And 260 - 185 Majority in the House.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:05 AM
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20. I have to agree with Carville
this time although I mostly don't trust him a whole lot of the time.

But...hell yeah....KICK SOME GOP ASS WHILE THE KICKING IS GOOD! :kick: The future of America is on the line! :patriot:
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DCal Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:35 AM
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31. I agree. It is CRITICAL to fund the 2nd and 3rd Tier House Races
I don't understand why some Dem strategiests only want to fund the races necessary to barely take over the House. They are going to pile up big margins (by overspending) in these districts and end up losing close races that did not get enough funding.

I also have no idea why the DNC is loaning $10 million to the DSCC and not to the DCCC. There are many more close House races than Senate races. It makes NO sense to pour money into New Jersey for Menendez -- what a complete waste! Menendez should be able to win by 5 points on his own with the cash advantage he already has.

This is the time to focus on winning as many House seats as possible. And, to do so, the 2nd and 3rd tier races need to be funded. Emanuel has finally come around to this conclusion, but there seems to be no money available.

And George Soros is sitting this election out because it is not as "glamorous" as a Presidential election. Pathetic.



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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #31
54. J. Carvell is an idiot, he should stick to banging his GOP wife and STFU.
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 08:28 AM by oc2002
The Democrats should be spending money on developing a base in all 50 states, not just blowing a wazzoo of money on one election.

No wonder the GOP kicks DNC ass.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #54
62. If Carvell is an idiot why dont you get out there and win it for us...
...it's now time baby.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #62
79. I am a volunteer for the Webb campaign.

Hopefully we will get rid of Macac Alen.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #54
63. How much money have you given?
If not, how are you helping the Democrats? Simply calling Carvell an idiot is completely unproductive.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #63
78. I donate every monthly to this board, donated to Webb and Lamont.

So, I have put my money where my mouth is.

Carvell is a slimy cretinous harlot that only offers to help for payment.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #54
90. Watch The War Room and then tell me that Carville is an idiot
He gets a lot of heat on DU largely because of his wife, but Carville is the reason that Clinton survived the GOP smear machine in '92. Carville has thus far run the best democratic presidential campaign since the Kennedy campaign in 1960.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:11 AM
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22. Well, ain't that just typical
Can't raise big money because the big money people don't think off year elections are glamorous enough, in-fighting and arguing. We're gonna snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yet. Damn it's hard being a Democrat. May as well try herding cats.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:14 AM
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23. Just sent the DNC a big check. Send money to any Dem directly or through
your favorite group. I prefer to respond directly to Dean. In any case, the loan is a brilliant idea.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:14 AM
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24. K and R people!
Just give any money you have to any Democrat. This IS the time.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:22 AM
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25. After we get all of these Dems elected,
can we please work on CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM? Please! This is absolutely ridiculous. All elections need to be publicly financed and each side gets the same amount of air time on TV. PERIOD.

I'm sick of $$$ buying elections....and here in Ohio, all I here is how sick everyone is of the TV ads.

It will definitely work in favor of the Dems.

But oh how I want those 40 to 50 seats.

Pony up people...get out the wallet and see what you can give one more time.

Or better yet....go spend YOUR TIME! CANVASS! PHONE BANK! LIT DROP! OR TALK ON YOUR CELL PHONE IN A CROWDED AREA ABOUT HOW GREAT THE DEMS ARE AND HOW THE REPUGS HAVE RUINED OUR DEMOCRACY!
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:30 AM
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28. I sent my man Rahm some money.
:toast: :toast: :toast: :bounce:
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:45 AM
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32. Run this ad....
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:23 AM
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37. I love this ad. Have seen it many times. It should be on every
TV station in every state.
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:15 AM
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39. Who do we call? It could be on in most states
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:43 PM
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75. I don't know. Not that politically-savvy. nt
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freebrew Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:44 AM
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59. I love me some Rickie Lee
That was great, is it nation wide or just youtube?
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:03 PM
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76. I first saw it linked to HuffPost
I don't know if it is only used for one Candidate or is a template for all.

I certainly think it could be for all - and should be.
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mkb Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:52 AM
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34. A Bird In Hand May Be Worth Two In The Bush
     This strategy is something to think about very carefully.
 Sending in money is always something you should think about. 
People record what you do.  Besides, if money is spread to
thin, then many close races may go the other way, which could
result in a Republican victory.  I think it's wise to perhaps
get a majority rather than take the big shots' advice and go
for too much.
     Caution is always advised when doing things even though
we must proceed with our lives.  I just think the appeals to
send in money should be considered very carefully.  And life
will go on no matter what happens, and your personal identity
is important.  So hope for victory, vote if that's what you do
and think best, but remember there is a lot to consider.  Good
Luck.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:48 AM
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60. Use your hand to shoot Bush a bird...
...by voting early and often.

I think Dems should focus on the House, where a solid majority is crucial. The Senate is a long shot anyway.

Newsprism
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:21 AM
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36. What Rahm Emanuel has trouble acknowledging is that it isn't all
about Money, its about boots on the ground, these boots were hired in April by Dean. THey have been organizing since then. DFA PDA Moveon, etc are geared up. THe Democratic wing of the Democratic party has been canvassing since April. This is what Dean planned for '06. MAsses of Volunteers hitting the streets in the final weeks, you cannot buy that, its priceless. ANd its forcing the GOP to PAY canvassers to equal the Deaniacs Drive to the HILL.

If wasn't for the volunteers in these house races, Rahm Emanuel would have 20 races to crow about. Dean knows this, because he is in 46 states, he went to ALASKA this spring. NO DNC Chair has been to ALASKA in decades.

You can't really measure the increase in volunteer activism, unless you are out on the streets, with the Activists. Like Deans has been.
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:20 AM
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40. I haven't been contacted about our area yet
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 03:24 AM by SleeplessinSoCal
I even signed up to work the polling station in ultra GOPPY, Orange County, CA.

In 04 I worked as a poll watcher. So many things going on to complain about and nobody could do anything. As it turned out because it was the ABBB campaign CA enough votes went for Kerry. But he'd have got many more votes in CA had the polls been properly managed.

It's the poor folks. That's who is getting screwed. And so we are all screwed.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 05:20 AM
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43. what other people can't seem to understand...
Boots on the ground and organizing is nothing new. Democrats have been doing it for years. It wasn't invented in last two years nor has it been done more often or in more numbers in the past few years.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:40 AM
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72. Ahem, the DNC gave up doing this in probably 20+ states
over the last 20 yrs. Thats what changed, the scale of activity. 35 years ago, this sort of work was done bigtime, now the DNC is getting back to it. Problem is, this effort has been going well, and Rahm is right, more races are in play & need money to win.

TV buys are one thing, but if you don't have the cash for TV, whats your next choice?

1)Paid canvassers.
2)Direct mail (almost too late for that, considering the lead time).
3)Phone banking (computerized phone banking trucks for volunteers are great)

The above techniques are proven GOTV, and pretty much any existing campaign can, with an infusion of cash, ramp up operations significantly, in a matter of 72 hrs.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:24 PM
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83. I've done it in two states (southern ones) as far back as 1992
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 03:26 PM by wyldwolf
And was given every indication that it was a common practice before then.

In fact, I recall several times in 2003 when Dean supporters first started getting active... they would come to our county Dem meetings and make all kind of suggestions of things "we should do," not knowing we were doing them, and had been doing them, for years.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:50 PM
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98. Its new for Dems
Carville and the DLC bought into the idea they could "pick the lock" and win elections without grassroots. That's why we lost so many races for so long.

Bad advice, glad its gone.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:46 AM
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41. I have sunk more money into this year than any year before
Between Senate, House and Governor donations I've spent quite a lot of money. That's how badly I want to win.
Dean's 50 State Strategy (strategery for the republikkaner trolls) is a mani reason why we're where we are.
Soros and others are right that we need to look long term.
They're wrong if they don't pour more money into these races.
If we bury the republikkaners in this election, we control the message.
A minimum majority means that scrub can still pass some, if not most, of his regressive legislation (with the help of some of the 'moderate' Dems)
I agree with Carville. This opportunity will probably not occur again in quite a while.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:05 AM
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52. Me too - more money and waaaaay more energy. And I am not slowing down
until after the post-election battles have been fought.

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 06:57 AM
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45. Where to give.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:41 AM
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49. Where's the absolute BEST place to send my donation?
I'd love to see Kyl defeated in AZ and think it's a possibility, but I'm more interested in gaining a majority in at least one House. I can see the forest for the trees, so to speak!

Smarter to send my donation to the state party, the DNC, the candidates, or...? I can't sned a whole lot more than I'm used to sending, but I'll dig as deep as I can!

Your suggestions?

Thanks.

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:32 AM
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56. Send it directly to the guy you support. and whatever you can go to DNC.

Dean is re-building the DNC from the ground up. He is like the coach that knows working on the fundamentals and executing them is critical to building a TEAM. The DLC-WPost is more about cheering the candidate like Hillary and making a spectacle, which turns everyone into ameture fools when they lose big.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:51 AM
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61. The DCCC is a good place
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:56 AM
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50. It would be nice if Sen. Nelson with a huge war chest and leading...
something like 65-35 in the polls could spread some of his money to the congressional candidates in Florida. I've heard he was approached and declined to do so. But I'm already pissed at him for his recent voting record so I admit I'm biased and willing to believe the worst about him.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:28 AM
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55. Another horrible DLC/WPost whore article telling the dems what to do.

Meanwhile the post should think about how they run a news organization before they go under.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:26 AM
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67. ... so you contribute a factually challenged reply
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:16 PM
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80. ..anything that sites Carvell is trash talking not facts anyway.
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 03:19 PM by oc2002
that article is pure crapola...fact.

"Emanuel said he believes as many as 58 seats are now in play."(his opinion)


Sure spending more money is always good, but not if it leaves the party with no reserves. Let face it, the Dems will NEVER have as much PAYOLA as the REPUKES.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:22 PM
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82. we're talking about what YOU said
Another horrible DLC/WPost whore article telling the dems what to do.

Any facts involved here? No.


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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:36 AM
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58. PLS REMEMBER TO SAVE SOME FUNDS TO CONTEST ELECTIONS!
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:01 AM
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64. I'm taking Nov 3, 6, and 7 off from work
Add the Sat and Sun in between and that gives me a 4 day weekend to work on GOTV. And I'm working a polling place on election day.

Who else is taking time off for the cause?
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:13 AM
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65. .....KR
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:14 AM
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66. Carville's not trustworthy...but this is a sound investment
If Dems go into a little debt, they can easily replenish the money after the election, because they'll have 58 new Congressmen to fundraise for them.
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:25 PM
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84. ...I will eat my SHORTS it the DEMS win more than 15 seats, 20 tops


The system is rigged against the Dems after the last redistricting, it would take many Republicans to stay home and a phenomenal off year election(typicaly favored to Republicans) to win that many seats.

And Emanuela and Carvell know that this is total bogus bull shit to even suggest 50 seats...only on the WPost...WTF.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:13 PM
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92. Well, I sincerely hope you'll be eating your shorts in about 3 weeks
though 50 does seem a little much...especially now that a lot of the political coverage has died down for the moment.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 09:34 AM
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68. Just donated to the DCCC...it felt GoooooD!
Just do it.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:54 PM
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102. Donate to the DNC
Don't trust the DCCC, who knows what Emanuel would do with the money. I'd rather have Dean overseeing the funding of these races.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:09 AM
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71. Bryan Kennedy needs money for ads to beat Sensenbrenner
He has low visibility, but if we get the ads people will vote for him. Please help if you can! www.bk2006.org
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:27 PM
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85. Sensenbrenner's a strange name, isn't it? It starts off so promis-
ingly, then kind of founders. A bit like, say, Reasonchump or Thinksplodge, or Senselessbrenner, for that matter? I'm always disappointed to come across it, even though when I continue to read the item, it all makes sense!!!!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:21 PM
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74. I sent some help
what I could to Rep. Emmanuel and his team. :)
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:47 PM
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93. How can we contact George Soros??
If he heard from 10,000 Democrats who can actually write a lucid plea for his help do you think he might respond???

:kick: IT HAS TO BE WORTH A TRY.........
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:52 PM
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94. This is the chance of a lifetime
I'm hoping they can find a way to work everything out, because this kind of chance doesn't come often.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:51 PM
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99. Read and weep...Unopposed House Democrats Sitting On $26,288,418
Unopposed House Democrats Sitting On $26,288,418

It is amazing what the bloggers found.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:52 PM
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100. Very interesting
If true, Carville and Emanuel should be ridden out of town on a rail.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:53 PM
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101. I will help you.
:hi:
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:55 PM
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103. This is way too strange
Dean isn't listening to them, is he?

:hi:

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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 12:34 PM
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104. Dems With Spare Cash Should At least loan it to challengers
Edited on Thu Oct-19-06 12:34 PM by JPZenger
As reported on the home page, there are many unopposed Dem House members with a million or more dollars in their campaign accounts. At a minimum, they should loan some of the money to the Dem. challengers in contested races. If the Dem wins, they will have no trouble getting donations to pay back the loan. If they lose their race, the loan should be written off as a donation.
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