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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:18 PM Original message |
Did Carville and McCurry Sell Out Kerry? |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hopefully they won't tell Carville anything this time |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. I see nothing |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. no one thing stands out in particular |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. An artificial atmosphere |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. let me just say |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Schmoozing for a political job? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. self-serving schmoozing is NEVER okay in an election |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. How do you define this schmooze thing? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I define it like this ... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I guess I dont get it. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Think again - AtomicKitten has locked horns with us on MANY issues |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I already agree, it does smell, see we can agree. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. It's not a tactic, Jim. I have been anticorruption for over twenty years |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Can't buy that. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Baloney - I care about what's INSIDE IranContra, BCCI, and Iraqgate. You |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I dont doubt that part |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Iraqgate was half-hearted - Christopher Drogoul trial was being defended |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. And I think he would have declined. or looked at you |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Except many of the same people involved then are still at it, and BCCI |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Would it even be called |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Yet he couldn't bring himself to reference it even as an education tool? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. two things, I wasn't paying as |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. well, maybe it's best if you just read the book. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. I haven't read the entire book |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. On BCCI, you're wrong |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 06:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. I think I answered that |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. Start at #33. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 08:38 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Yes - and a great coincidence RFK and other people close to Kerry brought |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Yes, it takes time. 15 years since BCCI, 20 since Iran-Contra. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I happen to know differently. And so do a few others. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I'm willing to help. When is D-Day? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. The election fraud is being exposed - obviously slower than anyone prefers |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Bzzt. Wrong again. Straw everywhere!!!! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 10:43 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Wrong. I do KNOW that BushInc will be exposed more when Kerry gains power. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. "...when Kerry gains power." |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I said I KNOW Kerry will expose BushInc and open books that a PRESIDENT |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. Well... |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Going into the general election, |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Where this guy Carville is involved the atmosphere smells worse |
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DUyellow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. agree |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. And especially not where that |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Then James Carville is demanding a retraction, right? Lockhart? McCurry? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. "Carville told her he had some inside news." |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I don't get the implication? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. How will we ever know about the 'outcome' if the 'outcome' was |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. He did. It was the number of ballots that changed from the earlier 250,000 |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. that isn't the point |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. please see #17 |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. I did not imply. |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
43. No way should he have done that and I was always in his corner |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 04:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
51. I remember the hatchet job they did on Dean. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
28. I have to go off-line before my head explodes. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. That's always the bottom line for many of us. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 10:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. cheers |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
32. i thought the democrats as a whole let kerry down. except clark |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. maybe I can't even judge it well. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 07:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. gotta watch this video with kerry on maher show |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:14 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. I love the memory of them all together at the convention |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
40. These two paragraphs show McCurry and Carville sold Kerry out. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
41. This needs one more recommend. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
42. Good post. On Carville, did he assume his wife would use the info... |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
60. Who gives a sh*t? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:10 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Whuh? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I think it was the "casual" use of the phrase Who gives a shit...not the |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
48. I have that Woodward book in audible format. |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 01:25 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Just bought and downloaded that book! |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
56. Any campaign that allows Carville, Begala, McCurry, Shrum, Brazile, or |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
64. Deleted message |
greeneyedboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. viva the Internet; otherwise we'd still be captives to these "experts" n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 07:30 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Then why did BushInc have to suppress votes, purge voter rolls, and rig |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-10-06 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
69. Yes, the Clintonistas sold out Kerry, as they did Clark earlier |
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